Raiden & Friends Thankgiving Special
Raiden & Friends Thankgiving Special
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posted11/23/2006 10:37 PM (UTC)byMember Since
09/04/2006 09:32 PM (UTC)
Part 1
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Part 2
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What is that suppose to be?

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A steaming pile of crap, just like all of this kid's works.
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Nemesis316 Wrote:
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER!!!??? i Read your comics and never laughed. They suck just as bad as mine. And guess what? Thats makes me better than you because you started long before me. Oh yeah. Party time! I'm better than the pussy. Hahahaha.


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Ugh... -_-


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It's...Horrible...


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This get worst everytime you post comic here.
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God, really? Must be cuz i'm young....and my second day on this stuff.
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Aw, c'mon. give the kid a break. i'm no artist, but i've seen worse than this. At least he's trying..


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ScorpionMKSM Wrote:
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER!!!??? i Read your comics and never laughed. They suck just as bad as mine. And guess what? Thats makes me better than you because you started long before me. Oh yeah. Party time! I'm better than the pussy. Hahahaha.
Nemesis316 Wrote:
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER!!!??? i Read your comics and never laughed. They suck just as bad as mine. And guess what? Thats makes me better than you because you started long before me. Oh yeah. Party time! I'm better than the pussy. Hahahaha.
1. Wow. Really witty. You changed what he said in his quote. I'm impressed.
2. Nemesis makes some of the best comics on MKO. The main reason being that he actually puts effort into them. What you make is unoriginal, unfunny, half-assed garbage. Nemesis actually gets people excited over his comics, because he's got wit, humor, and some good skills. You lack all of that.
Nemesis > You.

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ScorpionMKSM Wrote:
Damn man! I guess your right. Perhaps I need to work on my comics and stop being such a pansy little cocksucker. I'm sorry for being such a faggot. I'll try doing better next time! Btw, your comics rule man! Keep it up!
Damn man! I guess your right. Perhaps I need to work on my comics and stop being such a pansy little cocksucker. I'm sorry for being such a faggot. I'll try doing better next time! Btw, your comics rule man! Keep it up!
Fixed.
EDIT: Ninja Mime's the man.


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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
1. Wow. Really witty. You changed what he said in his quote. I'm impressed.
2. Nemesis makes some of the best comics on MKO. The main reason being that he actually puts effort into them. What you make is unoriginal, unfunny, half-assed garbage. Nemesis actually gets people excited over his comics, because he's got wit, humor, and some good skills. You lack all of that.
Nemesis > You.
ScorpionMKSM Wrote:
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER!!!??? i Read your comics and never laughed. They suck just as bad as mine. And guess what? Thats makes me better than you because you started long before me. Oh yeah. Party time! I'm better than the pussy. Hahahaha.
Nemesis316 Wrote:
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
A steaming pile of crap, just like my mom.
HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT YOUR MOTHER!!!??? i Read your comics and never laughed. They suck just as bad as mine. And guess what? Thats makes me better than you because you started long before me. Oh yeah. Party time! I'm better than the pussy. Hahahaha.
1. Wow. Really witty. You changed what he said in his quote. I'm impressed.
2. Nemesis makes some of the best comics on MKO. The main reason being that he actually puts effort into them. What you make is unoriginal, unfunny, half-assed garbage. Nemesis actually gets people excited over his comics, because he's got wit, humor, and some good skills. You lack all of that.
Nemesis > You.
Well said.

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Are his comics bad? Yes they are, but goading him and trolling his comic threads will have just as negative reprocutions as will his flames. If you cannot offer constructive criticism without goading him into flaming then please be on your way.

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I admit i'm harsh. But why do I do it, so they can become better artists. I know it's unorthodox, but would you rather me lie to them and tell them it's great, or be honest and say it sucks?
And no, sugarcoating it does nothing.
If I believe that person needs a good, long, thorough critcism post, I will make it. Because I believe that they want to get better, so I will help them.
What does ScorpionMKSM do? He could have PMed me or even told me in this thread what one should do to make their comic better. No, he throws a tantrum and tells me to go to hell like a petulant child.
Godzilla has a very good point, there's a fine line between aspiring artists, and artists who are in it for fame, and not passionate enough for it.
Sad but true.
And no, sugarcoating it does nothing.
If I believe that person needs a good, long, thorough critcism post, I will make it. Because I believe that they want to get better, so I will help them.
What does ScorpionMKSM do? He could have PMed me or even told me in this thread what one should do to make their comic better. No, he throws a tantrum and tells me to go to hell like a petulant child.
Godzilla has a very good point, there's a fine line between aspiring artists, and artists who are in it for fame, and not passionate enough for it.
Sad but true.

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Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.


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Pink_Ranger Wrote:
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
Nemesis got skulled for that one comment, whereas ScorpionMKSM has being doing a lot of flaming and other garbage in all of his other threads, and I have yet to see him get skulled.
He could handle the situation more maturely. Instead of yelling, and saying other people's work is garbage (When in fact it isn't), he could simply ask why we think it's bad. That's how you get constructive criticism. Arguing just causes conflict.


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So here's how to get better.
Look at some of the "favoured" authors' comics. Look at ]{ombat's comics, Bezo's comics, Nemesis' comics, my comics. Those comics/authors are MKO's most popular ones. Compare their comics with your work...spot a few differences? First of all, your speech bubbles and fonts are awful. Look for a font that looks simple and comic-like (NOT Comic Sans), and don't have HUGE speech bubbles that take up more space than they need.
But more importantly, BE FUNNY. So far, you're just stringing together random (unfunny) events and expect us to laugh at them. You have no story. Your part 2 has nothing whatsoever to do with your part 1. There's no wit, no plot, no nothing. You need a setup and a good/witty/unexpected punch line. Oh yeah, and randomness does not equal instant funny. There are times when randomness can be funny, but mostly it's just an excuse for not having to write an acutal story.
Look at some of the "favoured" authors' comics. Look at ]{ombat's comics, Bezo's comics, Nemesis' comics, my comics. Those comics/authors are MKO's most popular ones. Compare their comics with your work...spot a few differences? First of all, your speech bubbles and fonts are awful. Look for a font that looks simple and comic-like (NOT Comic Sans), and don't have HUGE speech bubbles that take up more space than they need.
But more importantly, BE FUNNY. So far, you're just stringing together random (unfunny) events and expect us to laugh at them. You have no story. Your part 2 has nothing whatsoever to do with your part 1. There's no wit, no plot, no nothing. You need a setup and a good/witty/unexpected punch line. Oh yeah, and randomness does not equal instant funny. There are times when randomness can be funny, but mostly it's just an excuse for not having to write an acutal story.
Pink_Ranger Wrote:
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
It WAS a pretty funny comeback, though.
Anyway, as for the comic... It's a Thanksgiving Special alright... SPECIAL CRAP. haha.
Seriously though,it blew my mind away by how bad it is. Ok, last chance kid. I'll explain to you why it's garbage, instead of just saying that it's garbage.
(This applies for both parts of Rayden and Friends Thanksgiving Special - Halloween Havoc)
I can't see how you could've created such a horrible comic structure. You have three panels vertically, then next to them, two large horizontal panels, divided into several other smaller, tiny panels. How can you expect us to read these and not feel like someone threw a rock at our head? So that's issue number one. My suggestion, and the obvious cure: Don't make such fucking stupid panel distributions. It's like you're a fucking moron, I don't care how young you are, I KNOW you've read enough comics to realize that this:
http://www.freewebs.com/animemk/panelshit.GIF
is impossible to comprehend.
Instead of doing a billion different panels for just one comic, remember that one comic should have ONE big joke, one point, one story.
You dont have to write a ton of dialogue and use as many characters as you can get your hands on, just do something simple like this:
http://www.freewebs.com/animemk/subzeroandlaofuny.JPG
Obviously that's not a real comic, it's just something to help you understand how you should structure a story.
Now the quality of the picture and text is just... abysmal. The text is hard to read because it's obviously been resized or is being written with a weird font on too small a size, the speech bubbles are nothing but completely white shapes, when that should not be the case, ever. Look at ANY decent comic, you'll see that it should have a proper shape, with outlining, and the text should be placed in the centre of it, not in a corner of a huge white circle.
Don't make the Narrator's speech the exact same crap as the characters' speech bubbles! How the fuck are we supposed to know? Remember, you have to explain everything to us visually, because we have no clue what's going on in your mind.
Don't make shit by yourself if all you have is Paint. That painting or whatever it is that Kano's statue is holding (what the...!?) looks terrible. Look at Scorpion's sprite: How many yellows do you see on his outfit? You can't have a frame that only has ONE BROWN.
The couches and trees look so fucking terrible, like you took a picture of something, saved it as a jpeg, then resized it over and over again.
Also, it took me a while but I finally understood that the tree ends up falling on Rayden. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT, if all that happens is you see Rayden near it, and then the tree down and no Rayden at all? Use sounds. Write shit, like ''*tree falling down* '' (Dont use that stupid thing , I hate it and it's not funny, but it's still alot better than not writing anything at all), or ''BAMF'' or ''RAAWR'' for situations where there should be a sound to help us understand what's happening.
Ok, so that's as far as comic making and visual stuff goes. Now onto the creative process.
COMICS HAVE TO MAKE SENSE. There has to be a story that makes sense, no matter how bizarre or silly or funny it is, it has to MAKE SENSE. Explain it to us, so it will make sense. Why the fuck are Rayden and Scorpion in an island for the holidays, and Rayden's bossing Scorpion around? Why are Sub-Zero and Kano playing football? Why is football called football, if you use the hands alot more, and football is actually the name of what you americans call soccer?
Why the FUCK did you even mention Goro? Why are Sub-Zero and Kano in the comic? It's just ONE comic, why the fuck are there a thousand ''jokes'' in the same thing? Some of those jokes actually have potential to be funny, but the thing is such a big mess, that it's not funny, it's just hard to look at.
Also, for God's sake, NO COMIC ''ARTIST'' has the privelage of being allowed to make typos. YOU MAKE THE COMIC. YOU RE-READ IT. YOU RE-READ IT AGAIN. How on EARTH can you write LUI KANG!? It's a good thing Shao Kahn wasn't in your comic, because I'm sure you would've written Shao Khan. NO mistakes. You cant make any mistakes. After you finish the comic, re read it. I know it's painful to read your comics, but try, please, and you'll see they'll become better if you fix the mistakes.
There's more to it in terms of creative structure for the jokes, but before you go into that, just fix the stuff I talked about above.
Now that you've finished reading my post, re read it, so you'll remember, and go try to make another comic. If you want, just remake the crappy ones you've already made, but fixing the mistakes. That's a good exercise to get better.
Also, read ]{OMBAT's tutorial:
http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=5922&page;=1
It's stupid proof, anyone can read it, understand it, comprehend it, and use it.
If your next comic sucks ass, even after all this help, you WILL get flamed, boy.


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ScorpionMKSM, you made 5 bad sprite comics so here some tips to make your comic look good.
1. Use photoshop or GIMP (I never used GIMP but I was told it's good program and it's FREE).
2. Learn how to use program before you start making comics.
3. you should take alot time at making comics and not just make it in 10 mins.
1. Use photoshop or GIMP (I never used GIMP but I was told it's good program and it's FREE).
2. Learn how to use program before you start making comics.
3. you should take alot time at making comics and not just make it in 10 mins.


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Zentile, your post gbrings a smile to my face.
ScorpionMKSM, your comic sucks on ice.
ScorpionMKSM, your comic sucks on ice.
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Nemesis316 Wrote:
Fixed.
EDIT: Ninja Mime's the man.
ScorpionMKSM Wrote:
I know i'm awsome. Thanks for thecomment.
I know i'm awsome. Thanks for thecomment.
Fixed.
EDIT: Ninja Mime's the man.
NOW it's fixed.

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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Nemesis got skulled for that one comment, whereas ScorpionMKSM has being doing a lot of flaming and other garbage in all of his other threads, and I have yet to see him get skulled.
He could handle the situation more maturely. Instead of yelling, and saying other people's work is garbage (When in fact it isn't), he could simply ask why we think it's bad. That's how you get constructive criticism. Arguing just causes conflict.
Pink_Ranger Wrote:
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
Being tough is one thing, lowering yourself to reply at his level is completely different. That is why you were skulled, and that is why I wish you'd respond differently. If he wants to make an ass out of himself, then let him deal with the reprocutions.
Nemesis got skulled for that one comment, whereas ScorpionMKSM has being doing a lot of flaming and other garbage in all of his other threads, and I have yet to see him get skulled.
He could handle the situation more maturely. Instead of yelling, and saying other people's work is garbage (When in fact it isn't), he could simply ask why we think it's bad. That's how you get constructive criticism. Arguing just causes conflict.
Look again because I've handed out quite a few skulls to ScorpionMKSM, and so has the designated SP of this forum.
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ScorpionMKSM Wrote:
My poo isn't that color! Have at yee! CHARGE! Hazaah!
Nemesis316 Wrote:
A steaming pile of crap, just like your *insert what ever was here before* Now bring it!
A steaming pile of crap, just like your *insert what ever was here before* Now bring it!
My poo isn't that color! Have at yee! CHARGE! Hazaah!
On a lighter note, I have to give you advice on this. First of all, make it bigger. I can't read it at all unless I copy and paste it into paint. Second, spend more time on it then just two days. And finally stop making the panels so confusing to read. Just because you understand what's happening doesn't mean we do.
Remember, it's suppose to be funny, not pathetic
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