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balkcsiaboot
10/15/2012 07:10 PM (UTC)
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illu§ion Wrote:
...Btw, why isn't this thread not on the front website so more votes can be cast?


Because this thread is related to Mortal Kombat and involves users of this website and it has nothing to do with that dumb-assed Injustice game.

EDIT: Now that I think about it... You gave us a double negative Illusion wink maybe that's why. The logic nerd in me is came out for a sec. Don't worry I stuffed him back in a corner.
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KingKahn-909
10/16/2012 04:26 AM (UTC)
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Voting number 5. Maskless Kahn looks awesome

Good work to everyone
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Zmoke
10/16/2012 03:30 PM (UTC)
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VenoMark Wrote:
I too am sorely disappointed in the number of entrants that failed to come through, especially considering the number of deadline extensions that were awarded to us. You all should be ashamed, because a lot of users were expecting this thing to involve competition on a much larger scale. Your absence is unacceptable.

That is just your opinion, which I find ironic:
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I can say that I am looking forward to seeing the entries, maybe becoming a little impatient because I did finally get mine submitted.
Should the competition have started a tad earlier, you couldn't have either submitted your entry. Your aforementioned sentence implies that you made your entry during a deadline extension, thus you would have also been disqualified out of this without a number of deadline extensions!

Anyway, I guess it's better that I'll gain some experience with other fakes first before I myself join a competition. Overall, I think all did a splendid job on their fakes whether they had it 5% or 100% complete. Numbers four and one caught my attention, the fourth one has an unrealistic bridge and premade lifebars giving it a questionable advantage compared to others however but the characters are cool. Every entry looks pretty decent.

I'll vote for the number one all the same – it's not perfect but it's beautiful like a ruby, something Sonya Blade should have had. I hope it wins.
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10/16/2012 05:33 PM (UTC)
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Definitely voting for Fake #4.

I don't see how Fake 1 is even in the picture for winning this. I thought that was 3rd best. Fake #3 is second best. Of course these are my opinions.
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UltimateRyu
10/16/2012 07:18 PM (UTC)
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#4 is best? How many times is that poop bridge going to be rehashed? The whole fake is dull as can be. My vote is for fake #1, at least it tried to raise some excitement.
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balkcsiaboot
10/16/2012 07:42 PM (UTC)
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Nevermind. I don't want to give out too much information
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VenoMark
10/16/2012 08:41 PM (UTC)
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Zjoke Wrote:
Should the competition have started a tad earlier, you couldn't have either submitted your entry. Your aforementioned sentence implies that you made your entry during a deadline extension, thus you would have also been disqualified out of this without a number of deadline extensions!

Anyway, I guess it's better that I'll gain some experience with other fakes first before I myself join a competition. Overall, I think all did a splendid job on their fakes whether they had it 5% or 100% complete. Numbers four and one caught my attention, the fourth one has an unrealistic bridge and premade lifebars giving it a questionable advantage compared to others however but the characters are cool. Every entry looks pretty decent.

I'll vote for the number one all the same – it's not perfect but it's beautiful like a ruby, something Sonya Blade should have had. I hope it wins.


I would've met the deadline in spite of the multiple extensions awarded to us. There is no question as to whether or not I would've had it 100%-complete at the time of the extension. Granted, had the request for an extension been denied, I would've had to rush to complete my entry. That said, the final result would've still been satisfactory, even under my own level of scrutiny. The only reason that I requested an extension was so that last-minute entrants and those without adequate free time could get their submissions completed. Seeing as how you couldn't even get a mediocre entry in before the final cut-off date, your opinion on the matter, as usual, is irrelevant. Thanks for trying, though.

I should also mention, just for the sake of repetition, that there is no need to further this discussion; we're all aware that you get gratification out of drawing attention to yourself. I simply addressed the groundless allegations you made against me. PM me if you feel the need to prolong this senseless (and, once again, one-sided) debate, as per your usual regimen. That is all.
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balkcsiaboot
10/16/2012 09:15 PM (UTC)
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Bah! You don't have to defend yourself against somebody like UltimateRyu or Zmoke anymore.
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Zmoke
10/16/2012 09:54 PM (UTC)
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⇧ Care to describe me further? I haven't been much an irrational person. You can eat the venomous apple at will but that doesn't legitimate his statements any better. Just don't go out on a limb and categorize me without basis again, I argued solely due his unnecessary accusations. I can reiterate our previous discussions if you want that elsewhere. This was between me and him. Speaking of which: VenoMark lost. Although he promised to «crush me verbally» lawl. Well he didn't – he gave up already.

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I would've met the deadline in spite of the multiple extensions awarded to us. There is no question as to whether or not I would've had it 100%-complete at the time of the extension. Granted, had the request for an extension been denied, I would've had to rush to complete my entry. That said, the final result would've still been satisfactory, even under my own level of scrutiny. The only reason that I requested an extension was so that last-minute entrants and those without adequate free time could get their submissions completed. Seeing as how you couldn't even get a mediocre entry in before the final cut-off date, your opinion on the matter, as usual, is irrelevant. Thanks for trying, though.

Perhaps I could've submitted it in a satisfactory condition as well but the only reason in the first place for joining this competition was because you invited me with an "assurance" of guidance. However when I asked it in two separate messages you couldn't give a thing of your "sacred" information. Now, I could've made the fake without that as well but I based the initial acceptance on a false claim of yours. So, yeah, I'm sorry people that I didn't make it this time – as if people would've been anticipating my first entry a lot – maybe I won't trust in VenoMark's false promises again to avoid similar confusions though. Moreover, you shouldn't moan about my lack of participation in this competition: you'll get more votes this way probably. Or what, was your whole purpose of joining this competition to "crush" newcomers for whom you won't give any advice at all as the self-proclaimed "father" of this competition? That's rather low... I wonder no longer regarding why your "proteges" hesitate to follow your instructions.

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I should also mention, just for the sake of repetition, that there is no need to further this discussion; we're all aware that you get gratification out of drawing attention to yourself. I simply addressed the groundless allegations you made against me. PM me if you feel the need to prolong this senseless (and, once again, one-sided) debate, as per your usual regimen. That is all.

Quit with those non-sequitur accusations of yours. Haha... you didn't. Consider answering to the real things and don't derail the subject all the time, as you do here now. You refused to proceed the discussion in the topic of mine, why not continuing there to "prove" your statement? I guess you're afraid. I don't that much care about attention, though it's always a good thing when you publish something. What, do I constantly change my avatar and signature to something as annoying as possible? No. You yourself are the person attempting to gain attention here with the constant self-praises. Don't generalize. You accused me of "antagonizing" yourself, but that's caused by your own actions and furthermore, I find it rather funny when that's what you do all the time behind the back of UltimateRyu. I'm not going to take a stance on your subjects of discussion however, but just saying. You are also trolling a lot with those "butthurt" and "umad" messages you send me when I don't answer immediately to your responses and with your newly-invented "Zjoke" name that isn't even very creative, stupid at max. Get adjusted to the rules of MKO for once, please.

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I've also attempted to get Zmoke to enter, but he'll probably invent an excuse that revolves around convenient claims of inexperience in such a medium (despite the added assurance that I would provide him with tips when needed).

I on my behalf wouldn't prefer further malice in this thread tho.
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KingKahn-909
10/16/2012 10:01 PM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
#4 is best? How many times is that poop bridge going to be rehashed? The whole fake is dull as can be. My vote is for fake #1, at least it tried to raise some excitement.


This has to be a troll. There is no way somebody could genuinely be this stupid.
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10/16/2012 10:23 PM (UTC)
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Oh gee, I wonder why people don't want to participate in fake picture contests anymore. Oh yeah, because everyone seems to be flaming and getting off topic.

I ask again, get to the voting and let other people vote how they want to without this fucking war. Skulls and bans will be thrown out if I have to ask again.
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(Erik)
10/17/2012 02:40 AM (UTC)
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Why don't you just use HTML code to make each picture 400 pixels wide.
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VenoMark
10/17/2012 03:11 AM (UTC)
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(Erik) Wrote:
Why don't you just use HTML code to make each picture 400 pixels wide.


Because it would reduce the quality of the images that are wider than 400 pixels. Why don't you vote while you're at it? confused
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10/17/2012 03:54 AM (UTC)
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I'm not looking at these under the best conditions, but I at least wanted to swing a post to comment on the qualiity of entries. There's really something to be said for all of them, which is really surprising. Depending on personal criteria, there's an argument for any of them to win.
1 does a great job of taking a simple, existing idea and innovating it. A great update of an old favourite. It isn't elaborate, just very good at what it's doing. Sometimes the best fakes have a light touch.
2 might be the best "fake" in the entire competition. It really stays within the realm of what was established in the classic games, much moreso than any of the other entries. If the traditional approach to a fake is to fool the viewer into believing it, it's definitely the most succesfully plausible. Working against it is just the fact that it's a bit muddy and unclear.
3 is excellent. Again, it's pretty simple, but very effective. Anyone who was kicking around with MKT probably has a deepseeded desire to see Shinnok in sprite form. It's a little too smooth to be plausible, but Shinnok's a winner concept.
4 deserves maximum points for originality. It's stuck somewhere between the plausibility of the original graphics, and the aesthetically pleasing render of updates, which works against it. IT's great to see someone submit something wholely original, though.
5 raises that question of criteria. It's got a lot going for it. The quality is both fantastic and within the realms of plausibility for an arcade screenshot -- provided it isn't a gameplay screenshot. It's a great screen, but doesn't really go far to convince as a gameplay shot. If criteria says it just has to be a fake image -- attract screen, cut scene, whatever -- it's tough to go past. I think it's probably the most rounded of the options and a really solid effort. Sneaky use of contemporary resources, but a bit more subtle than 3,
Great stuff, guys. Let's keep the bickering to a minimum and the voting and conversation to the max. Cheers!
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balkcsiaboot
10/17/2012 01:26 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
I'm not looking at these under the best conditions, but I at least wanted to swing a post to comment on the qualiity of entries. There's really something to be said for all of them, which is really surprising. Depending on personal criteria, there's an argument for any of them to win.
1 does a great job of taking a simple, existing idea and innovating it. A great update of an old favourite. It isn't elaborate, just very good at what it's doing. Sometimes the best fakes have a light touch.
2 might be the best "fake" in the entire competition. It really stays within the realm of what was established in the classic games, much moreso than any of the other entries. If the traditional approach to a fake is to fool the viewer into believing it, it's definitely the most succesfully plausible. Working against it is just the fact that it's a bit muddy and unclear.
3 is excellent. Again, it's pretty simple, but very effective. Anyone who was kicking around with MKT probably has a deepseeded desire to see Shinnok in sprite form. It's a little too smooth to be plausible, but Shinnok's a winner concept.
4 deserves maximum points for originality. It's stuck somewhere between the plausibility of the original graphics, and the aesthetically pleasing render of updates, which works against it. IT's great to see someone submit something wholely original, though.
5 raises that question of criteria. It's got a lot going for it. The quality is both fantastic and within the realms of plausibility for an arcade screenshot -- provided it isn't a gameplay screenshot. It's a great screen, but doesn't really go far to convince as a gameplay shot. If criteria says it just has to be a fake image -- attract screen, cut scene, whatever -- it's tough to go past. I think it's probably the most rounded of the options and a really solid effort. Sneaky use of contemporary resources, but a bit more subtle than 3,
Great stuff, guys. Let's keep the bickering to a minimum and the voting and conversation to the max. Cheers!


So you voted for 2 or 4?
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10/18/2012 04:53 AM (UTC)
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Please, I ask if you are going to comment, at least leave a vote and if you are reading this thread, just leave a vote. All it is which you like best. Simple. Thanks.
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redman
10/18/2012 03:15 PM (UTC)
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I really liked fake #1. Looks like something that could actually be in UMK3, all others are really nice aswell. Great job everyone. smile
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10/19/2012 07:05 AM (UTC)
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Image 1
I like this because it feels the most like the game. I really enjoy how the original sprites were used and modified to do more than the original did, but still maintain the authenticity, so this gets some extra props from me.
The background looks like it was pulled from the game. I thought it was just the Waterfront stage, but this is a pretty good, realistic edit. Awesome, very awesome. I like the added flaming car, but felt that if you moved it more to the middle of the photo instead of having it partially blocked by Sonya, it would've been cooler. Heck, add more cars to show that there was some signs of devastation during the MK3 saga.

Image 2
The background really stood out for me on this one, as I like the dark colours, the purple sky, and the green pit. It sort of makes me think of a castle tower, perhaps the spire-type ones. It has somewhat of a classic feel.
The characters look a little bit weird. Sonya's reaction to getting impaled's cool, but the other guy, who is he? Sub-Zero glitching into Ermac? Ermac himself? Shang Tsung in an alt? Reiko? Skarlet Post-Op? Without the life bars, I cannot tell. Also, the guy's mask looks like a splotch of blood on his face, it's a little confusing for me.
I have to admit that as creative as a hook coming down from the sky might be, the idea itself's quite weird, and doesn't do it for me. I mean, the hook reminds me of a flexible safety pin, since it looks like it's going through her body, then towards her face.

Image 3
That Shinnok sprite looks familiar, and it also looks awesome. Probably the only thing I do not like are Jax's legs, simply because they don't match the realistic, detailed sprites you have for his torso and Shinnok. I don't know, the red colour looks way too bright on them... Also, the life bars, I do not like the fade you have on Shinnok's, nor the small font you use for the names. The skeletons feel out of place in relation to the sprites too.
Other than that, I like this one a lot. Combining the Balcony with Goro's Lair, adding Goro watching from a distance and replacing Noob's Dorfen is a really cool detail, something that makes this fatality creepier. As I mentioned earlier, the sprites are really good looking, nicely polished, and the fatality's pretty cool. The anguish on Jax, the fury in Shinnok's face, the little details are remarkable.

Image 4
I like this picture, I really do... But it's not MK. If anything, this makes me think of BloodStorm. The names are goofy, the lower case font's a turn off, and as nit-picky as I might be, I can't tell if the spade/staff's supposed to belong to Vindicare or Redeemer and it's been plunged into him. Yes, I see the blood, but with the way it's positioned, it makes me think that it's holstered at his side some how. Also, why did you place the characters at the end of the screen? If you put the trouble into making this picture so wide, why didn't you bother adding more to the background to give us more to look at? A dragon, a few birds, maybe Raiden chilling on a cloud, I don't know, but give us something if you won't put the characters at centre stage.
Speaking of background, it's pretty dull. I like the mountainous view, but there is so much brown that it just looks dirty. There's so little colour here, and Redeemer being all black and Vindicare being skin-colour makes the whole thing kind of plain.
On that note, the sprites are terrific. Great details, and I do mean great, you seriously put a fuck-tonne of effort into them, and it shows. Absolutely brilliant. I wish you had made some MK characters look as awesome as these two, and if the contest was just on sprite-editing, you'd have my vote.

Image 5
I have no idea what's going on here. Mick mentioned how it looks like a "cut-scene" so maybe that's it, and I assume that this is the incomplete fake, so I'll cut it some slack... But not much because I see some glaring problems. For starters, like image 4, too much of one colour (green) is used. With Shao Kahn and Kano there, it seems like I'm looking at a gay Christmas rave. Yes, Raiden's getting torn apart, but a half-naked Kahn, mask-less, with a goon looking like he's caressing Raiden's arm and back is comical.
As for Kahn's face, it's a good effort, but his is a face that needs to be seen up close to work. It's hard to get all the details, like forehead spikes, red eyes, and flat nose, on something this small. I do notice the armour edits, and they're good, as well as the few done on Kano. I wish you had completed this though, and with all the extensions, I'm surprised there even was an unfinished fake submitted.

My vote goes to 3. The first image is a close second, as it looks the most like the game, but the third... There are so many interesting things to look at, and the sprite edits are so well-detailed, and that is such an awesome fatality for Shinnok.... Yeah, I really like 3.
Edit:To further elaborate, the first picture is great in that it captures what MK was like 20 years ago, but the third's more modern, and makes me think of what MK has become.
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reptile88
10/20/2012 07:02 PM (UTC)
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im between 3 and 4,both look amazing but number 4 takes the cake for sprite editing.Im so glad that fake pics are someway back,Cheers.
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fedegita
10/21/2012 08:21 PM (UTC)
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Great fakes everyone. And special kudos to Sekktor for organising this

Not sure if voting is still open, but mine goes to #3. It was a close call between that one and #4, but while 4 has excellent sprites, I think 3 is a better overall fake (sprites, background, idea, etc.)
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