How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
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How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 01:19 PM EDT

As we near the film's release, I can't help but to notice many of the interviews being released still address the addition of Cole. Fans are still harkening to the 1995 film (which is funny because there were a lot of fans who were upset about how it wasn't strict with the lore; i.e. Scorpion and Sub-Zeros' relationship, Raiden's French ethnicity and Kano's Australian authenticity, Shang's youthful appearance, Johnny Cage not being shirtless, Sonya being young and not wearing green, Art Lean addition, etc).

The best advise I can say to people standing by the 1995 film, is to treat Cole Young like Art Lean and the movie starts its focus on Art Lean and everything else follows.

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 03:38 PM EDT

The difference is that Art Lean was such a minor character; he had a few lines to show he got along with Cage and establish he's a good fighter, and a fight to show that Goro is really scary and can beat a good fighter like Art.

It really seems like Cole has a lot more of a central role in the movie. Although I don't know if Art was hyped up the same way in 1995. And I certainly don't know what becomes of Cole. Guess we'll have to see!

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 03:47 PM EDT

this movie cole story afterward i thinkk he going to a backset if the ubiverse goes foward

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 06:36 PM EDT

As someone who happened to be old enough to remember the hype for the first film, I don't recall any source hyping Art at all. In fact, he DID appear in the official theatrical trailer and a few of the TV spots, but never was once hyped. It's hard to actually see an Internet user's response to the 1995 film because the Web was nowhere it is today, so fanpages didn't exist enough for people to share their opinions. BBS systems did and unfortunately most of those are gone. But and this is me pretending to be back in 1995, I imagine a lot of us either just figured he was an extra fighter OR I would assume many of us thought it was Jax in a gi until we could have access to other materials suggesting otherwise.

Before the 1995 film rolled out, I do recall the novels being out before the film. The long novel wrote this about Art Lean as his intro: "Now on to the final round of World Freestyle Karate Championships, full contact, in Stockholm arena. Art lean, handsome muscular Af Am, fights his opponent Caesar Cerant, the Belgian national champion. He ended the fight smashing his palm into his opponent's nose, almost killing him. He'd became champion. Robe was black with scarlet trim. In his dressing room, he found a scroll - strip of tight white paper rolled around twin stocks of hard black wood, with red ribbon binding it closed and large seal of black wax hanging from ribbon. Other side of wax seal had a stylized dragon in a circle, its tongue curled out forked into double point, eyes were narrow and evil. He broke the seal."

The movie made no mention of his background and as stated, was there to strengthen Goro as a monster. As you can read the novel, my analysis, and more at this link: http://wskel.com/MK/mk_1995/memborabilia_guide/novel.html , you will find more to how Art was involved. He was essentially their friend and that became apparent in the film.

Looking back to the 1995 film, if you recall the fight scenes in the film, except for Sonya Blade and Kano, all the fights pitted Earth's warriors against Outworld warriors, which is the same exact plot in the 2021 film. However, Kano's allegiance to Shang Tsung was never fully developed. From the film, we learn in Kano/Shang's introduction that Shang Tsung wants Sonya there and uses Kano to lure her. We later learn, in the scene with Goro, Kano is being paid by Shang Tsung, so in the 1995 film, Kano, although from Earth, was working for Outworld so he could kill Sonya just as he did her partner (and the trading card set later revealed her partner was also her finance, but the trading card set was also based on this same novel which was based on an earlier draft of the script than was used for the 1995 film). It was really made apparent why Shang Tsung wanted Sonya until much later after she was captured - he assumed she was weak and he could easily secure a victory in Mortal Kombat by defeating her. But Raiden and Liu Kang stepped in and crashed his party. Hilariously, Kano working for Shang Tsung and Shang wanting to fight Sonya Blade were not in the games' story, more story Threshold established to develop the movie.

Honestly if New Line were to make the movie verbatim to the Jeff Rovin novel and John Tobias comic, I don't think fans would honestly recognize it. For one, I still see fans asking about Liu Kang and Kitana's relationship but that was a Threshold thing and Kitana was never even heard of until MKII. In fact, in MKII, Kitana was fighting for Outworld so she would have never had a relationship with Liu Kang. For example, her MKII bio reads: "Her beauty hides her true role as personal assassin for Shao Kahn. Seen talking to an earth-realm warrior, her motives have come under suspicion by her twin sister Mileena. But only Kitana knows her own true intentions." Her ending reads: "Through her years of working as an assassin, Kitana has learned many secrets, especially about her own past. She finds that Mileena is not her twin but a grotesque clone created by Shang Tsung. She learns that her parents were former rulers of the Outworld overthrown by Shao Kahn. Determined to take back what is rightfully hers she must defeat Shao Kahn himself. She does so by entering the tournament. She retakes her parents' castle and restores the Outworld back into a realm of nobility."

No where in Kitana's bio or ending is it revealed who she talked to or what she was talking about with the Earth warrior. In the 1995 film, she first is seen talking to Liu in her fight (presumably she set it up so she could tell him that), again a Threshold creative liberty on the license. They act all lovely at the end of the 1995 film but it wasn't as apparent until Annihilation they were going with a love angle, for reasons unknown.

Even in Liu Kang's MK3 ending, made the same time the film was being made, Kitana only greets Liu Kang upon his victory and still no hint of romance.

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The difference is that Art Lean was such a minor character; he had a few lines to show he got along with Cage and establish he's a good fighter, and a fight to show that Goro is really scary and can beat a good fighter like Art.

It really seems like Cole has a lot more of a central role in the movie. Although I don't know if Art was hyped up the same way in 1995. And I certainly don't know what becomes of Cole. Guess we'll have to see!

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 06:58 PM EDT
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As someone who happened to be old enough to remember the hype for the first film, I don't recall any source hyping Art at all. In fact, he DID appear in the official theatrical trailer and a few of the TV spots, but never was once hyped. It's hard to actually see an Internet user's response to the 1995 film because the Web was nowhere it is today, so fanpages didn't exist enough for people to share their opinions. BBS systems did and unfortunately most of those are gone. But and this is me pretending to be back in 1995, I imagine a lot of us either just figured he was an extra fighter OR I would assume many of us thought it was Jax in a gi until we could have access to other materials suggesting otherwise.

Before the 1995 film rolled out, I do recall the novels being out before the film. The long novel wrote this about Art Lean as his intro: "Now on to the final round of World Freestyle Karate Championships, full contact, in Stockholm arena. Art lean, handsome muscular Af Am, fights his opponent Caesar Cerant, the Belgian national champion. He ended the fight smashing his palm into his opponent's nose, almost killing him. He'd became champion. Robe was black with scarlet trim. In his dressing room, he found a scroll - strip of tight white paper rolled around twin stocks of hard black wood, with red ribbon binding it closed and large seal of black wax hanging from ribbon. Other side of wax seal had a stylized dragon in a circle, its tongue curled out forked into double point, eyes were narrow and evil. He broke the seal."

The movie made no mention of his background and as stated, was there to strengthen Goro as a monster. As you can read the novel, my analysis, and more at this link: http://wskel.com/MK/mk_1995/memborabilia_guide/novel.html , you will find more to how Art was involved. He was essentially their friend and that became apparent in the film.

Looking back to the 1995 film, if you recall the fight scenes in the film, except for Sonya Blade and Kano, all the fights pitted Earth's warriors against Outworld warriors, which is the same exact plot in the 2021 film. However, Kano's allegiance to Shang Tsung was never fully developed. From the film, we learn in Kano/Shang's introduction that Shang Tsung wants Sonya there and uses Kano to lure her. We later learn, in the scene with Goro, Kano is being paid by Shang Tsung, so in the 1995 film, Kano, although from Earth, was working for Outworld so he could kill Sonya just as he did her partner (and the trading card set later revealed her partner was also her finance, but the trading card set was also based on this same novel which was based on an earlier draft of the script than was used for the 1995 film). It was really made apparent why Shang Tsung wanted Sonya until much later after she was captured - he assumed she was weak and he could easily secure a victory in Mortal Kombat by defeating her. But Raiden and Liu Kang stepped in and crashed his party. Hilariously, Kano working for Shang Tsung and Shang wanting to fight Sonya Blade were not in the games' story, more story Threshold established to develop the movie.

Honestly if New Line were to make the movie verbatim to the Jeff Rovin novel and John Tobias comic, I don't think fans would honestly recognize it. For one, I still see fans asking about Liu Kang and Kitana's relationship but that was a Threshold thing and Kitana was never even heard of until MKII. In fact, in MKII, Kitana was fighting for Outworld so she would have never had a relationship with Liu Kang. For example, her MKII bio reads: "Her beauty hides her true role as personal assassin for Shao Kahn. Seen talking to an earth-realm warrior, her motives have come under suspicion by her twin sister Mileena. But only Kitana knows her own true intentions." Her ending reads: "Through her years of working as an assassin, Kitana has learned many secrets, especially about her own past. She finds that Mileena is not her twin but a grotesque clone created by Shang Tsung. She learns that her parents were former rulers of the Outworld overthrown by Shao Kahn. Determined to take back what is rightfully hers she must defeat Shao Kahn himself. She does so by entering the tournament. She retakes her parents' castle and restores the Outworld back into a realm of nobility."

No where in Kitana's bio or ending is it revealed who she talked to or what she was talking about with the Earth warrior. In the 1995 film, she first is seen talking to Liu in her fight (presumably she set it up so she could tell him that), again a Threshold creative liberty on the license. They act all lovely at the end of the 1995 film but it wasn't as apparent until Annihilation they were going with a love angle, for reasons unknown.

Even in Liu Kang's MK3 ending, made the same time the film was being made, Kitana only greets Liu Kang upon his victory and still no hint of romance.

The difference is that Art Lean was such a minor character; he had a few lines to show he got along with Cage and establish he's a good fighter, and a fight to show that Goro is really scary and can beat a good fighter like Art.

It really seems like Cole has a lot more of a central role in the movie. Although I don't know if Art was hyped up the same way in 1995. And I certainly don't know what becomes of Cole. Guess we'll have to see!

i know john change the lore for kitana in latter but didnt kitana orginal kitsune she was supoose to be the tourament winner spoil

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 07:01 PM EDT

Ok I never thought about their original concepts but if Kitsune later became Kitana then I guess so.

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i know john change the lore for kitana in latter but didnt kitana orginal kitsune she was supoose to be the tourament winner spoil

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03/26/2021 07:17 PM EDT
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Ok I never thought about their original concepts but if Kitsune later became Kitana then I guess so.

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i know john change the lore for kitana in latter but didnt kitana orginal kitsune she was supoose to be the tourament winner spoil

here the orgal concep for kitsune

https://twitter.com/nbajambook/status/1082466475947032577/photo/1

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
03/26/2021 07:37 PM EDT

Damn dude, nice work keeping these tweets. You should make a post of all the known John Tobias concepts and inspirations here for all of us to see. Then the admins should make it a sticky.

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Ok I never thought about their original concepts but if Kitsune later became Kitana then I guess so.

i know john change the lore for kitana in latter but didnt kitana orginal kitsune she was supoose to be the tourament winner spoil

here the orgal concep for kitsune

https://twitter.com/nbajambook/status/1082466475947032577/photo/1

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RE: How to Best Treat the Creation of the Cole Young Character [Advice]
07/25/2021 02:59 PM EDT
07/26/2021 04:02 PM EDT

I heard some fans assume Cole Young is MK2021's answer to Khrome (whether you like or dislike).

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