The thing is,

the first movie wasn't terrible. The acting wasn't terrible. The script wasn't terrible. The first movie was great.

And no, things didn't seem very fake to me, especially because most of the moves from the fights were done by stuntmen.

The only bit I recall actually saying to myself ''that has got to be the lousiest, most fakest fighting EVER'' was before Sonya and Kano fought. Yeah, Bridgette Wilson sure FUCKING sucked at fighting, I'll give you that.

1) Are you saying people like Jhonny Cage or Shang Tsung didn't know how to fight?

All of the fighters fought excellently.
Especially Jhonny and Scorpion.

I'll admit Kano and Sonya were sucky fighters,
but that was INTENTIONAL, they just planned the story so Sonya would be the weaker one.

(Even though in the game Sonya and Kano are pretty competent)

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The 2nd movie sucked, but the fighting great.
(Still not as good as the 1st one though)


In short, the fighting in the 1st movie was superb.
I don't recall seeing better fighting, except for in Matrix Reloaded, but that doesnt' really count

I STAND CORRECTED...


Because I had'nt seen the first movie in a long time, I got that mixed up with MK: Annihilation (the movie that I own). And, the script for the first movie was great. The actors were great, also. The only beef that I really have about the first film were the costumes--which I think should have resembled the games a little more.

Sandra Hess?? she's one of my favorite actresses and she's got some nice curves but no way in hell is she a martial artist. u can even tell from her stances. although i will giver her props on her effort. she did a fine job.

In the first movie:

Liu Kang, Cage, Shang Tsung, Reptile and Scorpion had excellent fight scenes. They all did a great job!

In the second movie:

Sonya has to the best one. Sandra did an excellent job in the fight scenes.

Robin Shou wasn't as good as in the first film. But I agree, all Mk actors should have further training in martial arts.

Hello! Did you forget about Chris Casasma (sp?). Dude that guy kicked ass. Real fighter too...

Oh, you said, MK:A. Lol, nvm

more martial arts should always be done when making a movie based around it. look at the matrix, all of those actors had to go through months of training. why not do the same thing for mk. the results could make the movie a whole lot better. i always thought about that....

anakkin Wrote: All of the fighters fought excellently. Especially Jhonny and Scorpion. --- The 2nd movie sucked, but the fighting great. ... In short, the fighting in the 1st movie was superb. I don't recall seeing better fighting, except for in Matrix Reloaded, but that doesnt' really count

Really? You thought MKA's fights were great, and MK's fights were among the best you've ever seen? Either you and I have very different tastes in fight scenes, or you haven't seen some of the true greats, like...
- Fist of Legend
- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
- Iron Monkey
- Legend of Drunken Master
- Twin Warriors
- Once Upon A Time In China 2

... among others.

And why doesn't Matrix Reloaded count?

Matrix Reloaded doesn't 'count' because the fights are fake. Most moves in the MK fights were done in real life, no CGI, no wires.

that may be true, but there were many fight scenes that required the knowledge of martial arts. like the opening fight with the agents and neo or the fight scene in that mansion.

Zentile Wrote: Matrix Reloaded doesn't 'count' because the fights are fake. Most moves in the MK fights were done in real life, no CGI, no wires.

inviladnoobwarrior Wrote: that may be true, but there were many fight scenes that required the knowledge of martial arts. like the opening fight with the agents and neo or the fight scene in that mansion.

Plus Neo vs. Seraph, Morpheus vs. Johnson, and pretty much every other fight in the whole trilogy. They didn't put the actors through all those months of kung-fu training for nothing. Of course, they did use a lot of wires and CGI, but they had to because the characters had superhuman abilities that the actors probably didn't. MK did similar things, but in smaller doses (like when Subby or Scorpion use their powers, or when Liu does his bicycle kick, or when anyone gets hit and goes flying back several feet).

But I do get what you're saying, Zentile. Whenever you see a fight in MK, it's actual actors doing actual moves, unlike in bits of Matrix 2 and 3 that are totally artificial. (Well, there is the Animality bit in MKA, but I think it's best for everyone if we all just pretend that never happened.)

Anyway, I don't care how they did them, I just know I think the fights in the Matrixes kick the living shit out of the fights in the MK's. Not that MK's fights were bad, I just thought they were nothing special. Sure, bits of the Matrix's fights looked fake, but overall I found them more convincing and satisfying than MK's ones.

Well, when it comes to entertainment, Matrix has AWSOME fights, but honestly, I think that Liu Kang vs Reptile is a fight that truly stands out. I think it's a much cooler fight than most of the matrix fights.

the difference between the matrix and mk is chee$$$$e
and mortal kombat doesnt have the money to train them.

with most of the games released ,the franchises, the first 2 movies,and the television shows, i believe that they could get enough "chee$$$$e" to hire good martial artists to train the actors how to fight and provide good special effects for the movie.

sandspider Wrote: the difference between the matrix and mk is chee$$$$eand mortal kombat doesnt have the money to train them.

Only people that looked like they can fight pretty well was Robin Shou, Chris Cassamassa, JJ Perry and like you said, maybe Sandra Hess. She did a hell of a lot better than Bridgette Wilson, that's for sure. Linden Ashby wasn't that bad when he fought Scorpion though.
But see, if they get Wesley Snipes in there to play Jax then they'd have it made.

grizzle Wrote: with most of the games released ,the franchises, the first 2 movies,and the television shows, i believe that they could get enough "chee$$$$e" to hire good martial artists to train the actors how to fight and provide good special effects for the movie.

Midway's financhal state last i saw did not put them in a possition to throw money around.

NitroDeSade Wrote: - Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon font>

u liked the ultraslow jumps?,the only positive thing that i can say bout that movie is that was more effective than any pill for sleeping

salbeinit Wrote: NitroDeSade Wrote: - Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon font> u liked the ultraslow jumps?,the only positive thing that i can say bout that movie is that was more effective than any pill for sleeping

Plot was fairly boring, some of the flying stuff was a bit hokey, but a couple of the fights (especially the dojo one) were ridiculously well executed, IMO.

When we talk about MK actors not having a background in fighting...

I say the ones that don't need to get trained for at least three months pryor to filming. That is if they wanna do their own fight scenes. Obviously James Remar can't fight so they had Ray Park do the fights for him.

Apparently Talisa Soto forgot how to fight b/c of the way she moved in MKA. Bridgette Wilson was not trained at all before the first film.

mortal kombat is a game based on "martial arts", therefore the movie is based on "martial arts". so the actors should know how to use "martial arts"

i would like it if each character had their own style of fighting and would perform actual moves and have some actors do their own stunts in the fight scenes, like jumping off of a platform and doing a kick connected to high wire.

i've noticed that in some movies the stunt doubles perform the moves well but you could tell it is definatley not the actors because you get a glimpse of their faces. i think movie sets only need stunt doubles for dangerous parts that may harm people, that is why they are trained to perform in those conditions.