Colour Customization
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posted03/07/2019 04:28 AM (UTC)by
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yperdaimonios
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03/07/2019 04:17 AM (UTC)

NRS, please unchain the accessory shader from the skin shader. Make an individual colour selection option for the accessories. It is easy and it gives a billion more variations. Also the personal variations become much more recognizable and it is much more fun. So if i want Johnny Cage with blue jacket and red gloves, and call that variation Red Gloves and people to remember me like that, to be able to do that.

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Spirit_Wolf
03/07/2019 07:53 AM (UTC)
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Well, they probably can atleast provide us with the ability to change the color they have set up, instead of giving us 3 to 4 color variations of the same skin. For example 3 color swatch spots (color 1, color 2, color 3) and apply them to what they designated it to, to prevent it from becoming a real circus.

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yperdaimonios
03/07/2019 12:43 PM (UTC)
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I don't think there is a circus danger. NRS has already choose the colors. Also the accessories are relatively small and not connected to the rest of the skin. Choosing their colour would also make them visible, because now they are almost invisible while playing.

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thisiscourage
03/07/2019 06:02 PM (UTC)
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I was terrified I would be fighting against ridiculous pink and purple scorpions online.

I was was so relieved to find out the NRS would be dictating the color schemes. It’ll avoid a circus as @Spirit_Wolf said

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Gillbob316
03/07/2019 06:25 PM (UTC)
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Honestly, while the color schemes are preset, some of them are still pretty much a circus. Seen more than a couple hot pink skins already... and chalk me up as one of the people who sees it as blasphemy to show the ninjas in any color other than their standard.

I kinda wonder if Player 2 colors still exist in this game... like... say 2 players both pick the same Johnny Cage skin, in the same color scheme. Is player 2 still different? Or are they identical?

How did Injustice 2 work? (Didn't play it)

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03/07/2019 06:52 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage

I was terrified I would be fighting against ridiculous pink and purple scorpions online.

I was was so relieved to find out the NRS would be dictating the color schemes. It’ll avoid a circus as @Spirit_Wolf said

Scorpion comes in yellow, white, green, purple, red, a blue+yellow combo, and I'm pretty sure one of the white outfits has bits of pale red/orange that seems a bit pinkish!?

I've seen Sub Zero in a yellow outfit too. SZ's white outfit is bad enough as it always confuses me: at a glance it looks like Scorpion. So seeing him in yellow is going to be much worse.

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yperdaimonios
03/07/2019 07:18 PM (UTC)
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The only pink i have seen is in johnny and cassie cage outfit. I think it goes with there personality and i do not think that different colours are any kind of blasphemy. Also if some skins, for someone, look like a circus, the accessory can either make it look less or more circus according to his taste. For example johnny cage has a pink t-shirt and the preset always makes also his glasses and his gloves pink, for some this may be a circus and maybe they would like to choose other colours for those items, though other would like this idea. The same goes for the ninja's. Some may like the full shaders but others may wanted to change some details. So if subzero has a green outfit, keeping the accessories blue, and not always changing them to green, would make him look closer to the original and also make his outfit look like a cool detail and not a full cover. There should be an option for people to choose. It is customization after all.

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03/08/2019 05:50 AM (UTC)
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I really dislike the whole "I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE ALLOWED TO CUSTOMIZE CERTAIN CHARACTERS COLORS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT" sentiment that's going around here.

If you don't want a rainbow Scorpion, don't make one. Let people enjoy things you self-centered grouches. Damn.

I'm a try n pass grey Scorpion off as Klassik Smoke, so...

As for the red bits on Scorp, it could be in memory of Kenshi/Takeda if something happened to them in the story.

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thisiscourage
03/08/2019 12:27 PM (UTC)
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The real reason they have it locked away from the user is to make people grind for skins and color ops that they want. (Or buy it)

i said it in another thread... as soon as I saw the color options it immediately reminded me of For Honor. For those that didn’t play For Honor, it was the grindiest game I’ve ever played to unlock skins.

I just hope they don’t go too nuts with the amount of grinding you’ll need to do in MK11.

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yperdaimonios
03/08/2019 02:33 PM (UTC)
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I would understand that if you somehow could unlock the colour options for the accessories. By grinding or buying or somehow. But having them permanently connected to the colour of the skin is strange and IMO unreasonable. They are not even that big to make a difference, like skins. They are details which it would be fun to be able to customize. Johnny cage has the american flag coloured glasses which have their original colour only with the blue jacket skin, otherwise they are pink or red depending on the skin. So you cannot have american glasses with the red skins. Scorpion has yellow swords only with his yellow outfit. Would it be bad to change that colour to the other skin colours like red, white, black swords with the yellow skin? It would be fun.

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03/08/2019 02:53 PM (UTC)
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I'm not a huge fan of the color customization, honestly. I get that people like making things their own these days, but seeing a blue Scorpion is blasphemy considering the character's history.

Doesn't make or break anything for me...just weird.

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Gillbob316
03/08/2019 03:03 PM (UTC)Edited 03/08/2019 03:04 PM (UTC)
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Detox

I'm not a huge fan of the color customization, honestly. I get that people like making things their own these days, but seeing a blue Scorpion is blasphemy considering the character's history.

Doesn't make or break anything for me...just weird.

That's kinda where I'm at. It's not a federal case for me or anything. I'll still buy the game. I'll still enjoy it. I hope others do too. But it will be a cold day in hell before I ever personally customize a Scorpion that isn't predominantly black & yellow.

And... quite fittingly, a cold day in hell would, ironically, be a logical reason for Scorpion to turn blue... come to think of it...

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yperdaimonios
03/08/2019 03:09 PM (UTC)
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I understand that you don't like colours but i think people should have their personality in their character's colour. At least for the colours that netherealm gives and they exist in the game.

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yperdaimonios
03/08/2019 03:34 PM (UTC)
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1.I do not think there is a blue Scorpion skin.

2.You know things like that can also mean things or get used in battles. So you can guess from the color variation or combination a person uses, what kind of gameplay he would have. Or you can use it to irritate the opponent. So if a guy chooses traditional Scorpion may have conservative gameplay, or he shows more respect or he is afraid or he doesn't care for things like that and he is an absolute Scorpion. Then if he uses nonconventional colours he may be destructing or salty or that he has a unique way to play. Things like that. More personality.

Although i understand the colour selection conversation, my point isn't on the skin colour. It is that they should unchain the skin colour from the accessory colour. The current way makes all the characters to seem like they have an "one colour at a time" obsession and removes a lot from the personalization of the variations.

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Spider804
03/08/2019 04:21 PM (UTC)
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Scorpion probably hates blue as much as he hates teddies

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yperdaimonios
03/08/2019 05:04 PM (UTC)
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My correction. There is a blue Scorpion.

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thisiscourage
03/08/2019 07:17 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, it’s kind of a navy blue and gold costume. It actually really cool looking, but agreed, it’s pretty jarring seeing scorpion repping those colors.

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03/08/2019 07:19 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, it’s kind of a navy blue and gold costume. It actually really cool looking, but agreed, it’s pretty jarring seeing scorpion repping those colors.

Then don't select them.

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03/09/2019 02:10 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, it’s kind of a navy blue and gold costume. It actually really cool looking, but agreed, it’s pretty jarring seeing scorpion repping those colors.

Then don't select them.

For someone championing people having opinions and voicing them in conversation on a forum, you sure are quick to shut them down if it's not your opinion. On topic, yeah it is jarring, but we will get used to it. And yeah, I won't be selecting those color options. This series has ingrained these colors into the DNA and personality of these characters for too long to have a blue scorpion etc.

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Tetra Vega
03/09/2019 05:08 AM (UTC)Edited 03/09/2019 06:37 AM (UTC)
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"Black Suit" Sub-Zero or Noob w his cryomancy...

Red Scorpion is a M.U.G.E.N char, and Black Scorpion is already a female hero franchise...

Orange Scorpion as ninja Blaze from the mobile's Pit bg...

Green Liu Kang as Hornbuckle...

Ka-Tra

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03/09/2019 09:09 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, it’s kind of a navy blue and gold costume. It actually really cool looking, but agreed, it’s pretty jarring seeing scorpion repping those colors.

Then don't select them.

For someone championing people having opinions and voicing them in conversation on a forum, you sure are quick to shut them down if it's not your opinion. On topic, yeah it is jarring, but we will get used to it. And yeah, I won't be selecting those color options. This series has ingrained these colors into the DNA and personality of these characters for too long to have a blue scorpion etc.

I actually think that blue and gold skin, along side de default skull mask, could make for a decent MK4/DECEPTION alt. look

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03/09/2019 02:57 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, it’s kind of a navy blue and gold costume. It actually really cool looking, but agreed, it’s pretty jarring seeing scorpion repping those colors.

Then don't select them.

What if the AI chooses them? What if those colour schemes are used in story mode?

Colour palettes are used for a reason. In character design a colour palette is assigned to a character to help diistinguish them. The fact that I already confuse white Sub-Zero for Scorpion shows how this can be a problem. Imagine if Mileena came in blue, or Kitana in pink.

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yperdaimonios
03/09/2019 03:31 PM (UTC)
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Aren't people able to distinguish a blue Scorpion from Subzero? Or a blue Maleena from Kitana? Can people distinguish Sonya from Cassie? Come on. Colours are great. It is boring to always have the same colour.

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Gillbob316
03/09/2019 03:39 PM (UTC)
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yperdaimonios

Can people distinguish Sonya from Cassie?

That's actually a subject of some debate here recently.

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