That's because you ignore the largest part of the MK fanbase.... Casuals, you won't find any around here, on TYM, or the subreddit.

Now, I am not saying that Stryker is among the most requested characters, mind you, but using K/Chameleon as a gold standard, even compared to Stryker, is pretty far from reality.

For several reasons I don't need to write, the Trilogy cast, even the most disliked characters, will always get higher chances than the 3D era characters.

Let's put it this way: no matter what it's their supposed "potential", the 3D era characters are part of the "Dark Age" of Mortal Kombat, when the franchise struggled to keep itself afloat and be taken seriously by the fighting game community.

That is a reason why you shan't see a lot of those characters (with Tanya, Tremor, Shinnok, Quan Chi and Kenshi being the sole exceptions).

C/Khameleon were part of the 2D era, but they have no moves of their own. The copycat characters always had short life, ask Shujinko.

Hm.... i would be really happy to see Sektor and Cyrax back along with Shang Tsung and Reptile. But i am also thankful to have Baraka back. So everyone else in the roster would be just a nice to have. But i am irritated about the "romuor" that only one MKX newbie comes back. All 8 had much potencial and at least 3-4 should be in MK11. Damn, i would like to play as D'vorah in MK11

This has nothing to do with 3D era characters. Stryker is simply not a popular character, there's several other trilogy characters I could see nabbing a spot before him. Even amongst casuals, I don't buy it. FYI- I don't live on Mortal Kombat Online, you twit.

No matter how you try to break it down and spin it- I don't buy Stryker making it in.

I don't even remotely believe Rain is 100% in yet...

A concept art picture of the back of a guy's head who somewhat resembles yet may or may not be Rain on the beta menu is not enough to verify his presence for me. And thus far that's the only evidence at all I've seen for him.

Though I agree, Reptile is looking more and more doubtful.

I could do without Reptile, but I don't see him not making it. He not only is an iconic legacy character, but he's also seems to be well-loved by NRS. The only game he ever missed was Deception and that was a huge plot-point of the story. So I'm going to assume he's in.

Kenshi really could sit this one out, at least as far as base roster's go. But I don't know. It's a toss up. NRS really does have a hard on for him.

By the way you keep on advocating 3D era characters and useless copycat C/Khameleon, I really thought you lived on MK Online.

I'll say this, if any of the mainstays do sit out. Reptile, Mileena, Jax. And it's KINDA seeming more and more likely a couple might this time around...

I imagine they'll be highly demanded for DLC. NRS might already have Kombat Pack 1 penciled in, but I could easily see people campaigning huge for these guys in Kombat Pack 2.

It's weird, as much as NRS likes to lean on DLC... and they often say guest characters are here to stay because they sell better... they never really put SUPER popular MK characters in their DLC packs. It's usually been secondary/longshot fanservice characters as DLC, in both MK9 & MKX. Then again, both MK9 & MKX both had the majority of the mainstays on the base roster. All of them were in 9. Only a handful sat out X. Maybe they're worried making popular characters DLC would cause backlash? Iunno.

Anyway, if Mileena or Reptile didn't make the base roster in 11, I'd pay through the nose for them as DLC, and they'd be the first people I asked for. You have to think that's like... positive motivation from NRS point of view, and they'd have to consider it. But then Shang Tsung, Baraka & Noob weren't DLC in MKX... so who knows.

People like you really suck the fun out of discussion and speculation. You're one big giant condescending wet blanket and I'm tired of you.

And coming up with "cool" comments like this. All i was saying was I'm sick of bitches. Quit whining.

Because as the internet has taught us all, the best solution for whining is whining about the whining.

I distinctly remember that Ed Boon said they use DLC to guage the reaction the community has for a character. Almost like experiments. I doubt they would do that for legacy characters.

Kinda lost me from the get-go at Animality. Not because I think it's too dumb or anything like that, but because it would be impractical to try and build convincing models and animations for all those creature transformations when they could focus their resources on the characters themselves. Babality was simple. Animality, not so much.

If they did do it,however, then now is the time to start asking ourselves and each other, "Why not Motaro?"

Strike 2: Two additional "New" slots with no names? Why should he have the rest of the goods but not these goods?

Too many bits of encouraging signs of Rain to think there wouldn't be Rain.

If people are looking for bold choices in the roster, Stryker is indeed a bold choice.

There's gotta be more people from MKX returning than this. Erron Black and D'vorah, at least, got so much spotlight in the tournament scene and were backwritten into the early history enough that it'd be really weird if they didn't make a comeback.

The thing about this roster that makes me most skeptical though, is that I can't figure out how they're going to tell the story they seem to be telling with these characters being central enough to be playable.

... I would also be pretty disappointed if Havik doesn't make it this time, but that being said, I have a hunch that they did something really interesting with his presentation and they're saving him for a Kombat Pack hook. Although the kind of story they seem to be going for seems right up his alley. Maybe a Tanya kind of situation?

No marriage then? :(

Welp, doesn’t really matter, now. He’s walking it back, saying his roster is just what he believes he’s pieced together and that nothing has actually been leaked to him this time.

Lol all the arguing in this thread over nothing. Sounds about right.

I'd honestly love it if Animalities came back. I miss the vast and diverse array of finishers we used to have in the 2D days. I'd frankly love to see Friendships return too. (Not oldschool Brutalities though. Those... those were friggin' terrible.)

THAT said.. I can't imagine they'd want to tackle the amount of work involved in Animalities. Adding 25+ custom animations for 25+ different animals of all shapes and sizes, all for just a couple minutes extra worth of flavor in cutscenes... seems like too much for too little.

BUT... we shall see.

Thanks for the heads up, man! I was about to pick apart that post, from the 12 ninjas out of 29 characters (yet still not one of them is Rain lol) to the great point made by Umbrascitor above that if he had the roster, why wouldn’t he have the remaining two new characters as well, but yeah... No?point now lol.

On the bright side, this still allows me to cling to my minuscule hope that Sareena might be in, though it does bum me out that Reiko’s not “leaked” since I’d like to see him, but who knows... I think he’d make for a great DLC character of he doesn’t make the main roster.

In general though, I really do hope they take a few more chances with the roster than one this guy had for his prediction / wish list.

I mean, I get it... They’re going to play it safe. Play the hits, or whatever. But I honestly think they can do that while still having a somewhat balanced roster.

Fujin, Sareena, Havik, Reiko, Frost and Li Mei tend to be the most talked about / requested 3D era characters for MK11. Just pick three of those and I think a lot of the diehards that actually enjoyed the 3D era games will be happy.

As much crap as they may have received for how many new characters were in MKX, they have to know that a lot of fans liked at least some of these characters. Cassue is a nice start, but again, I don’t think asking for three in total would be asking too much. Cassie and any two of Kotal Khan, Erron Black, Takeda, Dvorah or Kung Jin. All of these characters have their fans.

I mean really, that’s it. Six characters out of 25. The other 19 can be new characters, the sacred cows, and shifting some Trilogy names around like out with Jax and Mileena and in with Shang Tsung and Jade.

Best part is if we get two 6-packs, that’s likely eight more characters to play with. Maybe a fan service character and another MKX character or 3D era character, but after that, they can load up on those Trilogy characters some more if they want.

I personally hope they don’t, as I’d like to see more variety than that, but either way, point being, they can go safe, really safe in fact, and still give everyone at least some of what they want without having to lean quite as far in to “fan service” as that prediction / wish list implied.

Swap Stryker for Kenshi or D’vorah And that’s a perfect list

I'm not mad at that roster tbh.

No Jax would surprise the crap out of me. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be upset, just surprised.

As much as I'd love to have Reptile and Baraka both come back (No Kotal though?) this list is pure bunk for two reasons.

1. Stryker. Not when Cassie is in the game presumably using her guns and batons that Stryker also had.

2. Reiko. So if you have Shao Kahn in the game and you have Noob Saibot in the game why on earth would you pick Reiko to be in the game? A character that looked like the lesser version of one while playing like the lesser version of the other.

Oh sure you can bang on about how this particular loser from the MK4-7 era could be retooled and is brimming with pure untapped potential but you'll have to excuse me if I roll my eyes on the subject of Reiko. Just give Noob some Shurikens again and leave Reiko exactly where he left off: as a goopy puddle on Shang Tsungs floor.

JamesMK posted it and left it a bit up in the air whether it was the actual one or just a guess, but on gamefaqs now has said it was really just what he thinks. It just shows even though he leaked the MKX roster - was provided to him apparently - he has nothing else going for him to even think he has some inside info here or that these characters are even educated guesses. Anyone who thinks Stryker is in, is probably not in the right mindset.

May I ask you why?

As if MKX didn't have multiple characters with firearms?

Look, as much as I think this roster is fake, Stryker has the Trilogy charm plus his redesign in MK 9 has been positively received, so I would not rule him out completely, even if he ends up being just a premier skin.

Because Stryker is one of the most boring characters ever. If they bring back some older characters, surely they would pick the more unique ones. Literally anyone else from MK3/MK9 would be a more interesting addition.

Stryker basically became MK's John Mcclane in MK9. Far from boring.