MK11 - story & final roster discussion
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MK11 - story & final roster discussion
01/19/2019 07:20 AM EST
01/19/2019 07:58 AM EST

I was thinking it would be fun to discuss the final roster in combination with where the story will probably take us. One thing is obvious: it will feature a lot of MK9 characters, not many new ones and likely not many returnees from the 3D era and MKX newcomers. All that being said, let's start with the story:

Kronika has been looking over everything since the dawn of time and is stepping in as Raiden defeated Shinnok, but also mentions this is the second time (first time with Shao Kahn and going back in time to prevent Armageddon) he has "upset the balance of history." It is only a matter of time until the universe bends to her will (paraphrasing), so she clearly is running things on her own outside of the Elder Gods.

Her intentions are evil and will try to either erase the current timeline or just mix them up to have the different realms just battle it out. She is saying Liu Kang again made a wrong choice when she confronts him in the past, which is interesting. I think with the structure (chapters) in mind we will see the likes of Liu Kang, Raiden, Sonya in the current timeline or old being confronted by Kronika and their past / current selves. The revenants making a return and fighting their original selves makes a lot of sense.

My main take away from the prologue is that Raiden - while turning dark - is still the protector of Earthrealm as Liu Kang rules over the Netherrealm. His intentions are still to protect, though in an aggressive way. He is seen fighting off hundreds of minions - for the lack of a better word - and will work the revenant Liu Kang, Kitana and Kung Lao as well as the Special Force I'd imagine. I'm leaning then towards Fujin being killed off, sorry to say as NRS probably doesn't see him serving much purpose. With what we know, there's not much use for Fujin since he doesn't need to lead any of earth's forces into battle.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Quan Chi, Shang Tsung & Shao Kahn as the main antagonists of the series and very much tied to Shinnok, the MK tournaments, fighting earthrealm and the first meddling by Raiden. Also what they do with Fujin and the reaction by the Elder Gods to how Raiden is acting and Kronika & Geras messing with time and Shinnok who was of course despised by them. To me Shao Kahn as DLC makes much less sense, because he surely must make an appearance no? Would be odd if they go back in time and have him stay dead and simply mention him a couple of times.

As much as I see potential for the likes of Havik and Hotaru, I don't see them going down that path and revisiting those realms though it shouldn't surprise. Still, when MKX's story trailer came out many speculated on them incorporating the blood magik and we came up with the most interesting plot lines but NRS tends to keep it more straight forward than that. The story mode is not that long and especially with the backlash of cameos and NPCs, they likely will not have too many characters showing up who won't be playable, if at all.

This leads me to the final point of MKX's newcomers, particularly the story of Kotal Kahn taking over from Shao Kahn and the next generation. It's easy to expect them not even going into this that much, simply by messing with time back when they were dead and or were not on the scene yet. Still, would be odd if they introduce 4 new characters tied to the main characters and then just not show up. Cassie could be the sole exception, she did beat Shinnok, so maybe that's why she will appear at least in story mode. I tend to lean towards only Kotal Kahn and maybe Erron Black aside from Cassie making appearances and not necessarily playable.

So for me the following roster could be very likely given what we know so far:

  • Scorpion
  • Sub-Zero
  • Raiden
  • Liu Kang
  • Kung Lao
  • Kitana
  • Kenshi
  • Kabal
  • Baraka
  • Skarlet
  • Shang Tsung
  • Jax
  • Sonya
  • Kano
  • Johnny Cage
  • Cassie
  • Erron Black
  • Kotal Kahn
  • Shao Kahn
  • Sindel
  • Rain
  • Noob
  • Sektor
  • Kronika
  • Geras
  • NEW unknown
  • DLC Nightwolf
  • DLC Smoke / Reptile
  • DLC Jade
  • DLC Frost / Li Mei / Nitara
  • DLC Pennywise
  • DLC Michael Myers
  • I think we will end up with Shao Kahn / Kronika on top like Geras down or next to him, which leaves exactly space for 6 slots on top and 6 down, making it a roster of 38 with two DLC packs of 6 (12 total) and starting with 26.

    Roster

    Thoughts?

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/19/2019 08:22 AM EST

    I'm not so confindent in a KP2 this time... I don't know why... maybe it's because each character has so much skins/gears. Hopefully I'm wrong


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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/20/2019 01:41 AM EST
    01/20/2019 08:16 AM EST

    Sub-Zero

    Scorpion

    Sonya

    Raiden

    Kung Lao

    Liu Kang

    Johnny Cage

    Kitana

    Jade

    Kenshi

    Fujin

    Reptile

    Baraka

    Skarlet (Color me suprised on this one.)

    Ermac

    Noob Saibot

    At least two Kombat Kids mainly what's her face voiced by one of the blandest voice actress's out there beyond the Steven Universe cast, Ashley Burtch. And Scorpion and Kenshi's kid.

    And then a bunch of new forgetable lame characters who are hardly relevant to the story.

    Kombat Pack 1:

    Hmmm it's bound to be something lame and unrelated to MK so I'll go with

    Ash Williams

    Triple H

    Spawn

    Tremor

    Kombat Pack 2:

    Doom Guy

    Rain

    Chameleon

    Michael Myers

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/20/2019 02:44 AM EST

    Good post TS - I have always love the story of MK, and am so excited to dive back into the MK realm this April.

    I basically agree with what you say - Kronika seems to operate outside of the elder Gods, but has powers that are at least comparable to Raiden. That said, it is so hard to predict where they go with this kind of storyline - once you introduce time bending to a place that already houses different realms - it gets a little complicated.

    I am very unsure of who else may return. I also wonder if Kronika has any connection to Onaga, or, Argus and Delia (the God/sorceress couple from MK7). What she intends to do (fix time to her liking) would be at odds with Argus, and would effect Onaga (as well as everybody still alive in the current timeline - in particular Cassie Cage and company).

    I hope they get this story right. They did a great job with MK9 and MKX in my opinion. But here we are really going out there.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/20/2019 03:35 AM EST

    I may be being ridiculously optimistic, but with the time-bending storyline there could feasibly be a very large roster. The character select screen could rotate maybe. If all times are accessible, anyone may turn up.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/23/2019 04:47 PM EST

    I actually think somehow it would be funny if the time travel / reversal will actually go back to moments right before a character got killed, like Baraka in MKX. They will go back, Kronika whispers in his ear and in turn Baraka will kill D'Vorah.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/24/2019 09:16 PM EST

    I think Kronika is going to create alot of butterfly effects. I wish her boss battle was against onaga, shao khan, shang tsung and a shinnok cameo while she sits in a shield untargetable. When you win the round, she simply keeps rewinding the round and it says round 1 over and over until the 4 are dead, then round 5 , the shield comes off and she fights you. She has NPC boss only moves like a move that can stop time for long durations to pummel you. (geres has the balanced playable one), she can rewind her health bar back to full, she can rewind your proectiles everytime you throw them, they rewind reverse to you. (cosmetic looks only and You have to beat her without projectiles). Her boss arena is arcade arena only and switches to various important stages in MK like where onaga's egg hatches, shang tsungs courtyard, the final MK:A battle pyramid, shao khans courtyard, then her stage where the hourglass resides, looking like a futuristic stage with energy everywhere.

    Reality: A generic fight where she shares moves similar to Geras and the worse MK boss we ever had, more generic than Shinnok MK4.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/24/2019 09:25 PM EST

    Regarding NRS comments, the main issue is that Raiden took away the greatest evil - Shinnok - after obliterating most evil characters or making them join his side. So, despite his Dark persona, he will probably go on a rampage through the realms to erradicate all evil, and as Cianciolo said, he already has compromised the balance of the universe Kronika wants by making good waaaaaaaaaaay greater than evil.

    Kronika is certainly making the opposite moral game, she will start throwing evil in the timeline to change the balance. Still, I don't think she will be the only one, because why would she bring MKII Liu Kang to confront Emperor Liu Kang if she wants more evil? I suspect someone will make profit of her tools to. I don't know if it will be Raiden.

    Also, I'm concerned that Shinnok was interrupted by Raiden. He was mentioning the truth of death, and this being the reason he was banished, not that story of "he wanted Earthrealm for himself". Seemed like he wanted the realms as revenge, I'm curious about the extension of his "death to all!" idea. Another thing: after a brutality, Raiden says "may you find peace in death". This is totally out of character, even for Dark Raiden, so it's obvious he's truly going into a distorted version of Shinnok's path.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/25/2019 02:00 AM EST

    Seems to be plucking people from the past to face the Raiden altered time line versions. Wondering if there's young versions with no current versions alive.

    Also wondering if it's another alternative past?

    The morality of the story seems mixed. Chaotic good vs lawful neutral and Lawful Evil.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 06:27 AM EST

    I just want to see the fight taunts/interaction between Shao Kahn and Sindel.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 06:36 AM EST

    Shao Kahn is confirmed in the story mode.

    Other than that Kronika just wants to balance good and evil, this is the very definition of neutrality. So I would think twice before naming her a villain.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 07:15 AM EST
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    Shao Kahn is confirmed in the story mode.

    Other than that Kronika just wants to balance good and evil, this is the very definition of neutrality. So I would think twice before naming her a villain.

    Shao Kahn has not been confirmed to be in the story mode, people throw 'confirmed' around way too much.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 08:21 AM EST
    01/26/2019 08:28 AM EST
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    Shao Kahn is confirmed in the story mode.

    Other than that Kronika just wants to balance good and evil, this is the very definition of neutrality. So I would think twice before naming her a villain.

    Shao Kahn has not been confirmed to be in the story mode, people throw 'confirmed' around way too much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmqfqyxUbs8

    6:55 mark.

    Goro and Darkseid were not in the story but things "are gonna change", and Tabmok said "Shao Kahn is in the story, but he (Himmerick) can't talk about it."

    Heck, Himmerick said it. Tabmok repeated in front of him.

    More than people abusing the "confirmed" word, it's uninformed people who should gather more facts before they spill sentences.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 03:03 PM EST
    01/26/2019 03:13 PM EST

    I wouldn't over do the roster with ninjas. I like MK to leave something to the imagination but be brave at the same time, in terms of selection. To be a bit more classy, maybe only 2 or 3 more ninjas (maximum) could be added as we have Skarlet, Scorpion and Sub-Zero already. Just because characters wear masks does that make them ninjas? I don't think so as characters have developed in their own way over the years.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/26/2019 08:55 PM EST

    i hope for the story mode they don't make it cheesy and have it where Kitana and Liu Kang become good again in a lame way like Jade appears talks to Kitana and they have a disney moment where Jade is crying to her telling her memories of their childhood or some lame crap like that

    as for Roster as long as Kitana is playable i've got Sonya, i've got Kitana and then anyone else that is added is fine by me i don't hate their rosters and bitch/complain about things (no i wouldn't be pissed if Kitana wasn't playable) i would be sad but i played MK3 back in the day without her and i've played Deception before as well and i was perfectly fine

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/29/2019 07:41 PM EST

    As for the select screen and roster, I think that the Geras square at the bottom is just a placeholder for right now. That will become Shao Kahn and moved up and to the left next to Raiden. Then the spot next to skarlet will be Kronika. That will leave us with 10 DLC spots to finish the giant square that is the select screen. 36 total characters, same as Injustice2.

    As for WHO will be in the game... My personal wishlist is more 3D-era fighters. I'd even take updated 3D fighters over new characters. Reiko, Fujin, Kai, Mavado, Drahmin. Plus give me all the ninjas. I Love my ninjas.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/30/2019 01:35 AM EST

    I think my biggest question going in to this story is Kronika’s endgame. What future is she trying to ensure? The one where Shao Khan defeats Raiden in Armageddon? Or is she just trying to achieve some neutral balance between good and evil? Or is she simply trying to undo all the effects Raiden’s time meddling produced, such as Sindel’s murder spree in MK9? What is her desired outcome as it pertains to fixing what Raiden did if that’s her goal?

    I’m predicting that she’s trying to shape the future as she wants it; to balance good and evil and to do so, she’s going to try and move pawns in to place to position them to suit that end. What I don’t quite get is how that will result in characters from the timelines actually meeting one another.

    Will that serve to push younger versions in certain directions, like Raiden, Liu Kang and Kung Lao? Same goes for the bad guys like Shao Khan, Shang Tsung and perhaps (though I hope not) Quan Chi? Maybe she somehow prevents the latter two from ever awakening Onaga?

    I could see a plot like this, with so many characters being manipulated, resulting in characters realizing what’s going on and perhaps even allying themselves with unlikely characters. If both sides seek to win and her goal is a neutral playing field, then that goes against what everyone wants, after all. Maybe giving them a common enemy is what ultimately brings peace, or at the very least, a return to a more stable status quo, with no real threat of “the end” anymore.

    So here’s my roster prediction:

    • Scorpion
    • Raiden
    • Shao Khan
    • Baraka
    • Skarlet
    • Sonya
    • Sub Zero
    • Geras
    • Liu Kang
    • Kung Lao
    • Cassie Cage
    • Kitana
    • Johnny Cage
    • Kano
    • Kabal
    • Shang Tsung (hidden unlockable)
    • Noob
    • Smoke (hidden unlockable)
    • Jade
    • Rain
    • Kronika
    • New Character

    To me, this seems like a rather safe roster minus a few slight surprises in Rain, Jaqui and Skarlet. I think they’ll still throw in a few surprises along with a few more returning MKX characters:

    • Kotal Khan: Not really a surprise, and I could see them relishing the idea of a Khan versus Khan moment in the story.
    • Erron Black: Kotal will need some of his support. Rain will likely be on his side along with Skarlet, but Erron has been a mainstay for him as well.
    • Fujin: Like the Khan versus Khan idea, I could see a god versus god showdown where Fujin tries to help his corrupted friend.
    • Sareena: Probably my biggest reach, but with time being such a factor in this story, I think a plot involving her, Noob, Sub Zero, Smoke and Scorpion could make a lot of sense.

    After that, I could see the following for DLC:

    • Jax (because NRS can’t resist him)
    • Takeda (Ibdont believe for a second that Cassie will be the only Kombat Kid)
    • Reptile or Ermac (Gotta have another big name fan favorite)
    • Sindel (cameo theory, plus she has her fans)
    • Guest (Spawn?)
    • Guest (some horror character I don’t care about?)

    I also think we’ll see a four character KP2 to give us six rows of six:

    • Cyrax (I just can’t imagine them leaving him out, I think they know fans want him, not Triborg)
    • Tasia (or some other obscure / fan service character to keep the tradition alive)
    • Frost or Li Mei (tough to pick. Both had cameos in MKX, but I’ll take Frost since Li Mei didn’t even look like a fighter in MKX)
    • Guest (another horror character, I’d assume)
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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    01/31/2019 08:54 PM EST

    @Baraka407, I also agree that the final roster will be 36. Which will be 10 DLC, and 6 rows of 6 characters, perfect square select screen. I'd even go out on a limb and say that we'll have FOUR guests and they will take up the 4 corner spots of the square, style points! I personally hate guests, but NRS/WB sure doesn't. LoL

    I'm waiting to put my true roster predictions on here until we have confirmation regarding premiere skins. Their inclusion would change everything and I'm definitely holding my breath for them.

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    RE: MK11 - story & final roster discussion
    02/03/2019 11:47 PM EST

    I do think we'll probably get about 8 new characters. Maybe 6 so they can get some real focus. From a base roster of 24, that takes things back to 16-18 returning characters. We know about 7.That means we're looking at 9-11 spots to fill.

    Johnny Cage
    Kitana
    Jax
    Kung Lao
    Cassie Cage
    Takeda
    Erron Black
    Kotal
    Jade

    The only issue with that is that most of them are returning from MKX. This could be a game where you get Sindel, Shang Tsung and characters like that. But do they also leave Kung Jin and Jacqui Briggs out?

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