NRS did awesome with the ladies in this game
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posted02/17/2019 01:31 AM (UTC)by
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ErmaSco
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I fully support NRS decision to heavily limit sexual fan service in this game.

The ladies are very well decently designed. I hate it when devs turn female characters into sluts....

DoA6 is going downhill.

Thanks NRS, keep it up !

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ckl3456789
02/17/2019 02:18 AM (UTC)
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My only complaints are that one of Jade’s costumes is way too similar to Skarlet’s. The other complaint is that Jade looks a little too big. In game, she appears to be the same height as the male characters. I really liked in MKX how they made Kitana, Tanya, and Mileena much smaller and more petite.

The female’s body’s in MKX were such an improvement from MK9, I’d hate to see them go back to MK9’s body type.

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Detox
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02/17/2019 03:58 AM (UTC)
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Not all women are “petite”, though.

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Spider804
02/17/2019 04:05 AM (UTC)
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Petite or not, never underestimate the fairer sex.

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ckl3456789
02/17/2019 04:05 AM (UTC)
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@Detox

Im aware of that. But Kitana looked perfect in MKX. I liked that they made her thin and petite. It was fitting for her being a ninja assassin. As opposed to the female’s bodies in MK9 where they all looked like Chyna.

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lastfighter89
02/17/2019 04:16 AM (UTC)
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I just noticed that excluding Skarlet for the surprise effect none of the female characters shown so far has gotten any thing more than "cold" reception.

Jade and Kronika have been met with indifference, Cassie and Sonya with hostility.

On the other hand, Geras excluded, all the male characters have been positively received, especially Kabal.

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Spider804
02/17/2019 04:22 AM (UTC)
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If I had to guess, it's probably because no one expected Skarlet back

As for Cassie....That dead Centaur has been well beaten, tenderized, and made into meat and glue by now.

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02/17/2019 04:26 AM (UTC)
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@Detox

Im aware of that. But Kitana looked perfect in MKX. I liked that they made her thin and petite. It was fitting for her being a ninja assassin. As opposed to the female’s bodies in MK9 where they all looked like Chyna.

And that’s fine. Perhaps Kitana will retain her stature. You’re specific example was that Jade looks a little too big, to which my original post still sums up my feelings pretty well.

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XaeeD
02/17/2019 04:36 AM (UTC)
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Meh.. I don't know. Female characters in MK games are all the same, really. Sure, they're not wearing bikinis, but is that really our idea of leveling the playing field? First of all, why is it ok for male fighters to not be wearing a shirt? Kano, Liu Kang, Goro, to name just a few. So is it really sexist if a female character is only wearing a tight top?

Secondly, male characters are represented in all shapes and sizes. Muscular martial artists, big hulking brutes (Goro, Torr, Shao Kahn), old sorcerers (Shang Tsung and Shinnok), cybernetic warriors, creature characters (Motaro, Moloch), etc. So there's a lot of diversity in male characters, but I don't see this in female characters at all. All female characters in MK games are pretty much all the same: they have a young, athletic, sexy body. Normal face, beautiful often (disregarding bad CG modeling). They're all pretty much the same character. There are three 'exceptions' to this: Sheeva, who's a Shokan, and is somewhat larger and more muscular than other girls, and maybe not as cute in the face. D'Vorah's a humanoid, but is still kinda hot in a weird way, in MKX at least. Ferra is a small girl, but isn't actually playable. Nitara has potential, but she's basically just another hot chick, with wings. Jataaka, Kia and Sareena are demons, but again; hot women. Sindel's old, but she's a total milf. Even a bald broad like Kronika looks kinda decent, right? So are sexy clothes really the issue here?

They could do an old crooked hag character: an evil old sorceress dressed in dirty rags. It's a niche that has never been explored in an MK game. What if they took a Shokan female and made her a huge, lumbering brute of a woman, with a truly grotesque face? Maybe she lost one arm to drive home the point that she isn't physically 'ideal'. Why not? Name her Ogro. Has there ever been a canonical cybernetic female? Where's my Tarkatan female? Mileena doesn't really count. A true Tarkatan female warrior. She doesn't have to be attractive, but that doesn't mean she can't be a dope ass character. Lots of male characters that are cool aren't 'beautiful' (Drahmin, Kabal, Onaga).

That's why I want Sheeva and Nitara to be in the game; because at least there's some hint of diversity in terms of physical attributes. D'Vorah's fine by me, because I think she was a refreshing take on the female character, and I actually like the new, hideous D'Vorah we saw.

I think it's fine for a character like Mileena, Jade, Skarlet or Kitana to dress a certain way. Not every female character should be dressed decently, I don't think that's really all that important. Women in MK games can have a sexual identity that they express in their clothing choices. It doesn't have to be vulgair or completely nonsensical, but if Jax can run around in a spandex pants with his torso fully exposed, then why is it so wrong for Mileena to look sexy? And why would it be wrong for people to want some sexy costumes, at least optional in-game..? Even female players like that stuff.

If you're ok with heads being kicked clean off and eyeballs exploding out of sockets, then some nudity really shouldn't bother you. I think there's actually an empowering element to it. Just like I wouldn't mind the females being physically stronger. It makes sense: they're fighters, they have to go up against expert martial artists, monsters and ninja characters. Real-world women fighters are muscular, but you don't really see that in MK females. You want petit females that are decently dressed; I want an old hag, a muscular savage, a half naked Jade, and a monstrous female character attached to the body of a giant tarantula. Equality ;)

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Spider804
02/17/2019 04:54 AM (UTC)
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Kahn needs pants. A decent pair of pants.

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thisiscourage
02/17/2019 12:04 PM (UTC)
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I like that we are getting some height variation on the female characters. I think it is fitting that Jade is tall.

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Cheers OP. I totally agree. Glad the female characters are looking deadly this time around and not slutty. The designs look great. And they all have regular modestly sized big boobs not giant fake boobs. Lol

i have never mained a female female character before. I like a lot of the staple MK female characters but just never felt the urge to play as them. That has all changed in mk11.

Skarlet and Jade look BADASS. Even Sonya looks fun to play as.

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MacyG88
02/17/2019 12:52 PM (UTC)
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Spider804

Kahn needs pants. A decent pair of pants.

Nah. He needs his emperor dong swinging wildly as he fights to assert his dominance.

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02/17/2019 01:46 PM (UTC)
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And they don't look like ugly Alien drag queens like in MK9. What a fucking joke. And some people actually "miss" that?

They look absolutely amazing. Sonya's face has even grown on me.

And no Shao Kahn doesn't need pants, I like them daddy thighs. Talk about a krushing blow...

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02/17/2019 01:53 PM (UTC)
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What is wrong with fan service?

As for the female characters so far, they are looking mediocre at best. Sonya's costume has hardly got an update from MKX. Skarlet looks mediocre. Jade looks the worst she has ever done in my opinion. The revanent skin is just cold and uninspired, while the the two other costumes they showed off, don't feel like Jade to me. Muted earthly browns with very busy designs. I can not even remember the alternates they showed off because they just blend into one another. I like D'vorah's redesign though even though I can appreciate a lot of people did not.

Luckily I think they are going to remedy the situations with skins:

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ckl3456789
02/17/2019 01:57 PM (UTC)Edited 02/17/2019 01:59 PM (UTC)
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And they don't look like ugly Alien drag queens like in MK9. What a fucking joke. And some people actually "miss" that?

They look absolutely amazing. Sonya's face has even grown on me.

And no Shao Kahn doesn't need pants, I like them daddy thighs. Talk about a krushing blow...

The female’s bodies were ridiculous in MK9, and their costumes. I played my old MK9 recently, Jade’s cleavage in her primary costume is ridiculous, there would definitely be nipple showing. Kitana’s costumes were the least ridiculous, Mileena and Jade’s primary costumes were just laughable.

Their costumes in MKX were such an improvement. Kitana and Mileena have never looked better. Jade’s face in MK11 looks really good, I’m curious to see how they’ll do with Kitana’s. Her face sucked in MK9, it was greatly improved in MKX, but not near as much as it should have been.

BTW, Shao Kahn has always served daddy vibes lol

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02/17/2019 02:09 PM (UTC)Edited 02/17/2019 02:11 PM (UTC)
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xysion

What is wrong with fan service

There's nothing wrong with fan service. But when you start making the female characters look like Alien hookers for a low budget porno with circus size tits and Nicki Minage styled asses- someone has to draw a line. These are assassins, warriors, military officials- It's fucking insulting. You can STILL do sexy and be PRACTICAL- that Russian Skarlet skin for example- It's showing off just the RIGHT amount of skin without being ridiculous. So that's fine. There's a balance. I don't mind my female characters being sexy, I just don't want it to be ridiculous.

Look at how many hypocrites who praised the MK9 female designs and yet exploded over Erron Black showing off some skin in his alternate outfit. God forbid we get some man candy once in damn near thirty years past Goro's bulge and Shao Kahn's daddylicious thighs...

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02/17/2019 02:16 PM (UTC)Edited 02/17/2019 02:18 PM (UTC)
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ErmaSco

I fully support NRS decision to heavily limit sexual fan service in this game.

The ladies are very well decently designed. I hate it when devs turn female characters into sluts....

DoA6 is going downhill.

Thanks NRS, keep it up !

( DoA6 is looking amazing and I won't hear otherwise )

I really don't agree that simply by the female characters wearing revealing outfits they're somehow "sluts", I will say though I'm actually really loving the outfits in MK11 so far, I hated the majority of outfits in MKX because it seemed as if they sucked every ounce of sexual identity out of the female characters and tried to hard to just haphazardly cover as much of them as possible which left us going from the fierce as fuck outfits of MK9 to drab forgettable outfits in MKX. ( Excluding Mileena and Tanya who's outfits were still on point )

But again I'll say I don't feel this way about MK11, I feel like in MK11 they've found a great balance of the outfits yes being much more covered than MK9 but also still retaining character and appeal. Jade and Skarlet look fucking amazing, ( specially on Skarlet that blood red bodysuit with the pixie cut ) and Jade's arabian type outfits look great, Plus I'm biased as hell and just hyped to see her return after her not being in MKX.

( imo I should add lol )

Edit: Oh and Shao is a daddy, Don't you think about putting pants on him!

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02/17/2019 03:23 PM (UTC)Edited 02/17/2019 03:25 PM (UTC)
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Sonya's face has even grown on me.

I never agreed with the initial backlash, I thought Sonya's face looked fine.

People often do this, and it becomes an online thing; and all of a sudden everybody's hating on the new face, and I'm often wondering what the problem is. A similar thing happened when they revealed the latest Tomb Raider game: everybody was complaining about how the new faces looked worse than those in the previous game. But when you actually compared the CG renders (old and new faces), it was blatantly obvious that the new images were far superior to the old in all regards. People simply didn't know what they were on about; just parroting opinions for the sake of it. I'm not saying you can't dislike one design over another, but much of this nonsense really isn't rooted in reality.

Sonya's new face looks realistic. It's not just the improved graphics, it's the shapes, the expressions; it's simply truer to what Sonya Blade was in my mind. I never really liked her MKX face to be honest; not because there was something inherently wrong with it, because it was a decent design, but it wasn't really screaming "Sonya Blade" in my opinion. Just like Scorpion's face was not how I imagined Hanzo Hasashi to look, at all. I prefer the MK11 face in Sonya's case.

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ErmaSco
02/17/2019 04:03 PM (UTC)
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What is wrong with fan service?

As for the female characters so far, they are looking mediocre at best. Sonya's costume has hardly got an update from MKX. Skarlet looks mediocre. Jade looks the worst she has ever done in my opinion. The revanent skin is just cold and uninspired, while the the two other costumes they showed off, don't feel like Jade to me. Muted earthly browns with very busy designs. I can not even remember the alternates they showed off because they just blend into one another. I like D'vorah's redesign though even though I can appreciate a lot of people did not.

Luckily I think they are going to remedy the situations with skins:

Fan service in jiggling boobs and butts ?

You see it's disgusting when u throw a game and just aim to sell it of merits of fan service. There is no fun in seeing Kitana or any of the characters nude. Want to fan service me ? Give me an extra costume of Kitana that's no revealing heavy.

Women aren't boobs, butts or pussies and are definitely not a jiggling punch bags and I really respect the team for that

If somebody wants fan service ? Play DoA6, a game primarily sold on jiggling physics.

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Spider804
02/17/2019 04:12 PM (UTC)
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I was really making a 90s pop culture reference, I don't really care if Kahn wears pants. Although I find it hilarious that gave me my 100th like, lol

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NathanMThom
02/17/2019 05:14 PM (UTC)
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Every time I see "fan service" in a sexual context, I mentally replace it with "perv pandering". Because really jiggle physics and costumes that cover only inches of skin are servicing a narrow group of fans.

It's fine for characters to have sexuality. As others have pointed out, Skarlet in mk11 or Mileena in mkx have sexuality as an aspect of their personality without basically being pin-up girls. Other characters, like Sonya, shouldn't really be sexually emphasized as much based on their character.

So yeah I think mk11 is finding a pretty good balance. Skarlet and jade are sexy without being gross and other characters have more toned-down designs

As for male characters, similar issue. Sexuality or masculinity can be parts of a character but shouldn't be the whole thing. Shao Kahn is a well-rounded character who doesnt wear a ton of clothes largely from a cultural inspiration

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mkfan903
02/17/2019 06:24 PM (UTC)
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NRS did HORRIBLE & DISGUSTING design with the female characters in this game to appease stupid sjw cucks like ErmaSco & ProfesserAhnka for example.

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thisiscourage
02/17/2019 06:39 PM (UTC)
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NRS did HORRIBLE & DISGUSTING design with the female characters in this game to appease stupid sjw cucks like ErmaSco & ProfesserAhnka for example.

I’m the furthest thing from an sjw... but I’m loving the female designs in mk11.. they look like badass fighters...

its a fighting game not a strip club. I’m actually considering maining some of these chicks.. for the first time ever.

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mkfan903
02/17/2019 06:45 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage
mkfan903

NRS did HORRIBLE & DISGUSTING design with the female characters in this game to appease stupid sjw cucks like ErmaSco & ProfesserAhnka for example.

I’m the furthest thing from an sjw... but I’m loving the female designs in mk11.. they look like badass fighters...

its a fighting game not a strip club. I’m actually considering maining some of these chicks.. for the first time ever.

Skarlet looks hideous like a total replica of a raging feminazi with that iritating haircut & stupid burka in fact she looks like a jihadist, Sonya's face has the look of a 70-year old grandma & same old boring costume from MKXL, Cassie looks & sounds like a deranged psychotic ugly lesbian, Jade has lost all her sex appeal. And this is also a fantasy game and you're sjw too but in denial.

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02/17/2019 07:26 PM (UTC)
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NRS did HORRIBLE & DISGUSTING design with the female characters in this game to appease stupid sjw cucks like ErmaSco & ProfesserAhnka for example.

I’m the furthest thing from an sjw... but I’m loving the female designs in mk11.. they look like badass fighters...

its a fighting game not a strip club. I’m actually considering maining some of these chicks.. for the first time ever.

Skarlet looks hideous like a total replica of a raging feminazi with that iritating haircut & stupid burka in fact she looks like a jihadist, Sonya's face has the look of a 70-year old grandma & same old boring costume from MKXL, Cassie looks & sounds like a deranged psychotic ugly lesbian, Jade has lost all her sex appeal. And this is also a fantasy game and you're sjw too but in denial.

So anyone who disagrees with you is an SJW. *eye roll*

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