Alright. Mad Max is set in a future, apocalyptic world that has Earthrealm technology in it: cars, guns, machinery, etc. Outworld doesn't have that. The MKX costumes with the Mad Max theme are just as canonical as Liu Kang's Capoeira suit, or Gaucho Kung Lao. They do not turn Outworld into a Mad Max world.
If Outworld is based on the Hyborian world, then where's Sindel's equivalent in the Conan movie? This was never my point, I was describing broad similarities, or specific ones whenever they occur, but obviously, not every Outworld character was based on a character in Arnold's movie. Where's Reptile in that movie, where's Kitana, or Kintaro: specifically - in that move? They're not in there, but that doesn't matter. There were many other external sources that were being used to come up with the MKU. Not all of it can be pinpointed to one franchise. Some of it was inspired by other works, some of it was original.
Shang Tsung and MK1's settings are more like Bloodsport and Big Trouble In Little China. There are multiple creative pools from which was being drawn, obviously. But I think that Outworld resembles the Hyborian world so much that it can hardly be denied.
The Realms that merged with it (partially at least) were very similar to it. Edenia is like an Atlantis: an idyllic world that was lost but also exists in Howard's Hyborian history. Its descendants still exist in the Hyborian age, just like Edenians still exist in Outworld.
Motaro's tail isn't cybernetic. He's a mythological creature. The world is drenched in magic. Stone, wooden and metallic statues come to live all the time in Harryhausen's primitive worlds, through magic and sorcery. There's a mechanical owl in one of the films, a bronze statue that is animated through sorcery (Minaton), a six-armed metallic statue of Kali that springs to life through magic. Motaro's metallic tail isn't an issue. It does not mean that Outworld has cybernetic technology. Interactions with technically advanced humans from Earthrealm only occur extremely late in Outworld's history. There's never any hint of electrical power sources or any kind of advanced tech in Outworld. Kano couldn't have armed the entire Outworld with machine guns and nano-technology.
Whenever deviations occur, such as Erron Black's presence in Outworld, the writers have to come up with some kind of justification. This either works, or it does not, so yes, maybe Skarlet had some type of contact with Earthrealmers and their gear, that's possible. And we have to wait for the game to be released, to find out the how and why. That's fine. Apart from those very specific sidestories (that have yet to be detailed), my point is that Outworld, and its characters (and their looks) should stick to a certain basic blueprint. I want to see more use of animal hides and furs and leathers for (the more savage) Outworld characters, I don't really dig Outworld characters running around in synthetic fiber bodysuits, wearing goggles and using guns. I wouldn't wanna see a Shao Kahn dressed like that either.
That's my personal preference, I'm not saying you can't like those things, but I think it ruins the lore, and you start straying too far away from some principle guidelines.
If you still think Outworld isn't based on the Hyborian age and Conan's world, then explain this:
http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/kitana/images/32301580/title/kitanas-ending-mk2-photo
Im aware of that. But Kitana looked perfect in MKX. I liked that they made her thin and petite. It was fitting for her being a ninja assassin. As opposed to the female’s bodies in MK9 where they all looked like Chyna.
Kitana looked horrible in MKX, she looked like a midget with the short legs, long neck and huge head, especially withut the mask on. Her face was super huge. Mileena also had a huge head compared to her body. All the females looked like this actually.
Tanya was the only one that looked right, I'm guessing after all the alterations made to her model, her head ended up being proportionate to the rest of her body. Cassie as well, after all the backlack over her initial model they got her right in the end.
Alright. Mad Max is set in a future, apocalyptic world that has Earthrealm technology in it: cars, guns, machinery, etc. Outworld doesn't have that. The MKX costumes with the Mad Max theme are just as canonical as Liu Kang's Capoeira suit, or Gaucho Kung Lao. They do not turn Outworld into a Mad Max world.
I don't think it's as much about the "Apocalypse pack" as it is with some of these character's primary designs. Ferra Torr, Erron Black, D'Vorah all adhered closer to that aesthetic than of the Hyborian image you speak of.
Bringing back that aesthetic would really look very dated in this day and age, in my opinion. I think that died in the early 90s. I do think you're right about the material choices for Skarlet's costume, though: It takes away the mystical side to it a bit and I definitely don't like the goggles either but, overall, that'd be the only bits for me to nitpick because she looks right at home in the fantasy mishmash world that Outworld has evolved into. Trying to limit it to one particularly dated style would be a hindrance to freshness.
Oh wow this fell into incivility. :I Also as someone who likes the more revealing outfits of MK9 AND the more covered up outfits of MK11, People need to stop with the crap of calling each other SJW's and pervs for liking/disliking different things.
MK11, Seems to have found a good balance of certain female characters sticking to more conservative outfits while other characters wear more out there revealing outfits and I think that's good. I always felt they went too far with Sonya wearing next to nothing in MK9 despite being from Earth and a member of the military, So Sonya being covered up in MK11 is cool. But I'm also cool with the Edenian's/ outworld characters wearing risque outfits because they aren't from Earth and Edenia is a more idealistic society so I'm happy that from what we've seen with Jade and Scarlet they're outfits are fierce and are more out there than Sonya's and showing some skin.
Proves my point: NRS designers/developers aren't necessarily aware of the roots and source material that make up the backbone of Outworld, conceptually and visually. Which is why they put Clint Eastwood in a Conan world: because they're idiots.
Why? Why would an Hyborian age look dated now, and not in the 80s or 90s, when the Hyborian age deals with a fictional-fantastical prehistoric/iron age world? If anything, with today's computer graphics, it would look way more awesome now.
I think not. It's still being used in different media, in different franchises. It's an age: like the Roman age, or feudal Japan, medieval Europe, or ancient Egypt. It's fictional like Tolkien's world, which served as a basis for everything from World of Warcraft to Kingdom Rush. Stuff like this doesn't get dated, trust me.
I'm just hoping we get a little more variety with some of her alternate costumes. Assuming there's more in-game than what they've shown so far.
Sadly, Boon got "woke". Baraka can be 3/4 naked in one of his outfits, but women must be covered head to toe, so far. I think MK9 was a bit ridiculous pertaining female appearance, but now they have gone too far the other way to the point any feminine feature is nearly banned. I am so thankful Soul Calibur 6 did not get "woke". Females in Soul Calibur have varying shapes and body types. In MK11, every female has a boyish body, usually heavily clothed. Mortal Kombat: A-Cup Edition, reserve your copy today! I don't know even know where to start about Sonya, but how about "she" looks like a dude.
Developers aren't "woke", they're just not stupid. They don't want any negative attention or bad publicity for their games. They're simply playing it safe. I don't think that's right - that they need to do that, and cater to a very vocal minority, but that's just how it is. I think Sonya looks fine by the way.
"Woke" sounds fucking stupid.
She'll be the first woman to fly across the realm of Outworld
Never shake hands with a man who wears his heart on his sleeve.
Okay, I'm a little confused now....
Alright. Mad Max is set in a future, apocalyptic world that has Earthrealm technology in it: cars, guns, machinery, etc. Outworld doesn't have that. The MKX costumes with the Mad Max theme are just as canonical as Liu Kang's Capoeira suit, or Gaucho Kung Lao. They do not turn Outworld into a Mad Max world.
I don't know why you brought Mad Max or alternate costumes into this. I sure didn't.
If Outworld is based on the Hyborian world, then where's Sindel's equivalent in the Conan movie? This was never my point, I was describing broad similarities, or specific ones whenever they occur, but obviously, not every Outworld character was based on a character in Arnold's movie. Where's Reptile in that movie, where's Kitana, or Kintaro: specifically - in that move? They're not in there, but that doesn't matter. There were many other external sources that were being used to come up with the MKU. Not all of it can be pinpointed to one franchise. Some of it was inspired by other works, some of it was original.
Shang Tsung and MK1's settings are more like Bloodsport and Big Trouble In Little China. There are multiple creative pools from which was being drawn, obviously. But I think that Outworld resembles the Hyborian world so much that it can hardly be denied.
... I think you just argued for my point here. Yes, there were many creative influences on the original creation of Outworld. If we put aside the goggles for a moment (which you totally can with custom skins) then Skarlet's outfit isn't any further out of line with the Outworld aesthetic than Sindel's MK3 outfit. That's why when I see a new addition who also doesn't fit neatly into the strictly Hyborian theme, I think that's okay.
Let's not forget that Outworld is an entire planet, inhabited by peoples who themselves came from entirely different entire planets. It's a miracle that the place has had as much aesthetic consistency as there is. From that perspective it's kinda refreshing to see there's more to Outworld than we saw in MK2.
Motaro's tail isn't cybernetic. He's a mythological creature. The world is drenched in magic. Stone, wooden and metallic statues come to live all the time in Harryhausen's primitive worlds, through magic and sorcery. There's a mechanical owl in one of the films, a bronze statue that is animated through sorcery (Minaton), a six-armed metallic statue of Kali that springs to life through magic. Motaro's metallic tail isn't an issue. It does not mean that Outworld has cybernetic technology. Interactions with technically advanced humans from Earthrealm only occur extremely late in Outworld's history. There's never any hint of electrical power sources or any kind of advanced tech in Outworld. Kano couldn't have armed the entire Outworld with machine guns and nano-technology.
Motaro isn't equivalent to a statue come to life. So far that's (surprisingly) the one thing we haven't seen happen in Outworld. Unless you're implying that it was sorcery that gave him a robot-looking tail that shoots laser balls? Could be, but doesn't sound very Hyborian. Or it could also be that in a game that introduced three different cyborgs, a nomad with a plasma-shooting iron lung, prosthetic arms that shoot rockets, and a storyline where Kano arms Outworld with Earth weapons... maybe Motaro really had a cybernetic tail.
And no, Kano probably couldn't arm the entire Outworld with machine guns and nano-technology (not that nano-technology was ever brought up, but still). Yet he could certainly equip a decent size army, which we got the chance to actually watch him do in MK9.
I want to see more use of animal hides and furs and leathers for (the more savage) Outworld characters, I don't really dig Outworld characters running around in synthetic fiber bodysuits, wearing goggles and using guns.
Literally no one in Outworld has ever been shown to wear animal hides and furs. Bones, yes -- probably those of their victims. And if you don't dig Outworlders wearing synthetic fabric bodysuits, then the classic Queen of Outworld is not for you.
By now it seems like you're projecting your preferred vision for what Outworld should look like based on just one of its dominant themes, rather than taking the whole conception into account.
NRS designers/developers aren't necessarily aware of the roots and source material that make up the backbone of Outworld, conceptually and visually. Which is why they put Clint Eastwood in a Conan world: because they're idiots.
Erron Black... is from... Earthrealm. He looks like Clint Eastwood in a Conan world because that is exactly the idea for his character: "Clint Eastwood Goes to Outworld." I can't help but think you're ignoring his story on purpose just because you don't like seeing Outworld have any variety that it didn't have in MK2, or anything that doesn't line up strictly with Conan the Barbarian.
Oh wow this fell into incivility. :I Also as someone who likes the more revealing outfits of MK9 AND the more covered up outfits of MK11, People need to stop with the crap of calling each other SJW's and pervs for liking/disliking different things.
MK11, Seems to have found a good balance of certain female characters sticking to more conservative outfits while other characters wear more out there revealing outfits and I think that's good. I always felt they went too far with Sonya wearing next to nothing in MK9 despite being from Earth and a member of the military, So Sonya being covered up in MK11 is cool. But I'm also cool with the Edenian's/ outworld characters wearing risque outfits because they aren't from Earth and Edenia is a more idealistic society so I'm happy that from what we've seen with Jade and Scarlet they're outfits are fierce and are more out there than Sonya's and showing some skin.
Stop being reasonable!
To be honest, I've been a bit on the fence with the ladies of this game. Jade and Skarlet I think look phenomenal, the rest not-so-much.
I wasn't just replying to you, I was also replying to shafcrawler.
You argued that certain characters from Outworld were not based on the Conan movie, implying that the comparison to Howard's Hyborian age wasn't justified. "If it's based on the Conan movie, explain Sindel and Motaro!" I never said that each and every single character was taken from the movie. Besides, I was referring it to Howard's overall vision of a world, not just the movie. You brought up other realms that merged with Outworld, but my point still remains, because unless you can think of an external Realm that made it beyond some kind of industrial revolution, it's safe to say that even with the merged Realms, Outworld is still MK's equivalent of Robert E. Howard's Hyborian world. I pointed out that Edenia is the equivalent of Atlantis, which exists in the world of Conan. Even more evidence that supports my view.
That's subjective. I'd disagree.
There never has been any real proof for anything remotely 'modern' in Outworld. Maybe as you move further away from the original games, but I'm having difficulty coming up with examples for this. At any rate, if you think it's refreshing to see certain things in Outworld that are more modern and technologically evolved, then that's your prerogative: hard to argue over personal preferences. Me personally, I think that's what Earthrealm is for: the modern and/or futuristic elements of the game. Outworld is a more primitive, magical and barbaric world. There simply isn't a need to turn Outworld into another Earthrealm. Shang Tsung and his island serve as a bridge between these two world and add a Chinese folklore and mystic element, and the Netherrealm is there for the nightmarish horror elements. In a nutshell.
Motaro is loosely based on Ray Harryhausen's monsters, like Goro and the Shokan. My point was that in Ray's movies, mechanical things existed, and all sorts of metallic objects became animated (alive) through the use of sorcery and magic. There was no cybernetic explanation. Especially the movie "Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger", which had a bronze statue become fully animated through magic, has an Hyborian world in it. I don't know if you've ever seen this movie, but they literally travel to a Hyborian age world.
Motaro had a segmented rat-like tail made of some metal. How does this prove the tail was 'cybernetic'? Especially when segmented metallic objects come to life all the time in Harryhausen's flicks, but never due to earth-technology. Usually, it's the work of magic. Outworld's a world of magic. It explains it all, there's simply no real need to look for an alternative explanation, although I'll give you one in a minute. But look, everyone in Outworld shoots flashy looking laser orbs. Is Shao Kahn's mask cybernetically enhanced? Cause he shoots a green laser ball out of his face.
Maybe.. we can't be 100% sure of anything here, but it seems quite goofy to pick one character out of an entire world that has already been defined, and say that this one character is an anomaly. Kano brings in Earthrealm weaponry for Outworlders to use against humans in the invasion. Does this mean guns? It's never specified. In MK9 he's giving them bazookas and stuff. So did he 'give' Motaro a cybernetic tail? Who attached it? Did all the other members of Motaro's race get cybernetic tails as well? So before this, the Centaurs had no tails, or fleshy ones? How do we know that the tail isn't covered in a metallic armor? All we really know from the games themselves is that it's a metallic rat-like tail. The real answer is much simpler than any of this, however, as John Tobias himself once said he drew the character as a kid, basing it off of The Micronauts's Baron Karza. Don't laugh when you google that...
I wrote: "I want to see.."
Let me rephrase that, because I was specifically referring to advanced Earthrealm military suits. The point being; state of the art fabrics and armor belong to Earthrealm warriors. Technically speaking, Sindel's not a classic Outworld queen anyway.
We went over the counter arguments; Outworld being merged, Motaro's anomalous tail, his 'laser' ball, other influences, etc. I think the evidence is overwhelmingly in my favor here.
Like I said: bad writing. Erron Black fits as much in Outworld as a gunslinging Eastwood fits in a Conan movie. I know that's how they justified him being there, I'm not unaware of trivia like that. My entire point is that this is stupid, not to ignore the fact that they did it. They wouldn't have done it if they were aware of what Outworld really is, or started off as. You're simply taking anything these writers throw at you and pretending it's all great writing: trying to discredit my argument, because certain silly choices writers made conflict with what I'm saying. They wanted to add a gunslinger character, that's all there's to it. They put the character in Outworld, and justified it in a story. You can do that, that's fine in and of itself; it doesn't mean it's a good idea, or well written.
Sigh, it's not just about that movie. It's an underlying theme and atmosphere that is grounded in something that excludes certain elements. Outworld has plenty of variety as it is. I don't want it to become a second modern world, because that's what Earthrealm is for. You're desperately want to detach it from the source material it is based upon, but all of the similarities I mentioned, along with those two images I showed you (of Kitana's ending and Conan the Destroyer) prove without a shadow of a doubt that my analysis was correct. If you want to throw all of that in the trash, then you're disregarding Tobias' vision. And if you want them to change Outworld in to another Earthrealm by blurring the lines between them, then you're entitled to your opinions, but it actually ruins the diversity and variety, as opposed to adding to it, because you're getting rid of the contrast. Outworld should remain as it should be, it's why it was so appealing to me. Bad writers can't change that, it will always be, to my mind, its own unique world.
And that's about as far as I'm willing to take this discussion.
Alright, this thread has too much going on for me to catch up entirely, but here's some cliff's notes...
I agree with the Conan guy on Motaro's tail. While it has a quasi-cybernetic look, since he's a fictional creature, it doesn't necessarily NEED to be cybernetic, or explained as such.
Beyond that though, I think I'm on Umbra's side. It feels like XaeeD is arguing the idea way too hard that Outworld needs to be grounded in one particular mythos it drew inspiration from, but that's not how inspiration works. Outworld (and this entire franchise on the whole) draw inspiration from many sources. Call Conan the backbone all you want if you have a big boner for it, but nothing about MK2 (which is the first exposure we had to Outworld) SCREAMS Conan at me. Least of all the multi-colored ninja assassins.
The thing about creating your own Mythos is it doesn't HAVE to adhere to ONE specific mythos created by someone else. Look at He-Man... CLEARLY a lot of Conan/Hyborian influence in He-Man. And yet He-Man's primary purpose was to sell toys. ANY toys. They really didn't care what they threw into the He-Man mythos, as long as they could sell it, this has something his creators have freely admitted made it an ideal toy line, because there weren't many limits to the crazyness. Throw in a giant tiger! Throw in hoverbikes! Throw in cyborgs, skeletons, rocket launchers & space men! You name it, He-Man will sell it to 10 year old boys!
I'd argue Mortal Kombat has a hell of a lot more in common with He-Man than it does Conan, since at its inception, its purpose was just to get children to pump quarters. And frankly its goal is still ultimately, "Sales!" ... it's more about throwing in characters they think are appealing from a gameplay perspective, then concocting a backstory for them than it is crafting a world or an excellent story.
... But like I said, I didn't read this thread in detail, just kind of skimmed... so... feel free to keep arguing.
And yeah, Sindel is full on wearing a spandex leotard & Marty McFly vest in MK3, for what it's worth. Her outfit didn't even feel like "Barbarian Queen" to me when I was 10 years old.
And regarding Skarlet's goggles... Skarlet & Kano both work for Kahn. This game takes place after Kano introduced Earthrealm tech to Outworld's villains. Thus endeth any explanation needed.
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Alright, this thread has too much going on for me to catch up entirely, but here's some cliff's notes...
I agree with the Conan guy on Motaro's tail. While it has a quasi-cybernetic look, since he's a fictional creature, it doesn't necessarily NEED to be cybernetic, or explained as such.
Beyond that though, I think I'm on Umbra's side. It feels like XaeeD is arguing the idea way too hard that Outworld needs to be grounded in one particular mythos it drew inspiration from, but that's not how inspiration works. Outworld (and this entire franchise on the whole) draw inspiration from many sources. Call Conan the backbone all you want if you have a big boner for it, but nothing about MK2 (which is the first exposure we had to Outworld) SCREAMS Conan at me. Least of all the multi-colored ninja assassins.
The thing about creating your own Mythos is it doesn't HAVE to adhere to ONE specific mythos created by someone else. Look at He-Man... CLEARLY a lot of Conan/Hyborian influence in He-Man. And yet He-Man's primary purpose was to sell toys. ANY toys. They really didn't care what they threw into the He-Man mythos, as long as they could sell it, this has something his creators have freely admitted made it an ideal toy line, because there weren't many limits to the crazyness. Throw in a giant tiger! Throw in hoverbikes! Throw in cyborgs, skeletons, rocket launchers & space men! You name it, He-Man will sell it to 10 year old boys!
I'd argue Mortal Kombat has a hell of a lot more in common with He-Man than it does Conan, since at its inception, its purpose was just to get children to pump quarters. And frankly its goal is still ultimately, "Sales!" ... it's more about throwing in characters they think are appealing from a gameplay perspective, then concocting a backstory for them than it is crafting a world or an excellent story.
... But like I said, I didn't read this thread in detail, just kind of skimmed... so... feel free to keep arguing.
And yeah, Sindel is full on wearing a spandex leotard & Marty McFly vest in MK3, for what it's worth. Her outfit didn't even feel like "Barbarian Queen" to me when I was 10 years old.
And regarding Skarlet's goggles... Skarlet & Kano both work for Kahn. This game takes place after Kano introduced Earthrealm tech to Outworld's villains. Thus endeth any explanation needed.
Points for the He-Man reference. You can never have enough He-Man.
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Not to mention that Outworld has largely been depicted as a desert/wasteland. It’s not too difficult to imagine the denizens of Outworld realized that dust/sand getting in your eyes sucks and that some kind of eye protection might be a good idea. The sort of loose/layered clothing she wears in a couple outfits fits too for that kind of environment.
We also have ZERO idea of her backstory or why she’s looking the way she does, so there’s that.
In light of all the evidence/similarities/parallels I mentioned, I still firmly believe in my own interpretation. The overall context is clear. You construct this type of background knowledge so that you can put things in their proper places (which might very well be the definition of knowledge), and you do this, so that you can act in conformity with what you've established (wisdom!). That way, moving forward, you ensure that characters, stories and designs remain true to the fundamental backbone of your subject matter. If you dismiss its proper context, or are ignorant of it, then before you know it, you'll be signing petitions to have Shaggy in a Mortal Kombat game. I think that the following two images perfectly summarize the entire Hyborian influence theory for Outworld:
I'd love to keep arguing over this, but I think I made my point, provided sufficient evidence, and I'm ok with leaving it at that.
Yes, the influence in those 2 images is clear, but you're clinging too hard to the idea that Outworld needs to adhere to one source of influence. Outworld is not the Hyborian Age. Nor does it need to follow the rules of the Hyborian Age. Outworld is Outworld. Just as Eternia is Eternia. Outworld can have goggles, just like Eternia can have laser firing rocket bikes.
I think Umbra hit the nail on the head earlier with this statement:
"By now it seems like you're projecting your preferred vision for what Outworld should look like based on just one of its dominant themes, rather than taking the whole conception into account."
Outworld has Hyborian influence, no one is denying that, but it's not a carbon copy, nor has it always been in the past, nor does it always need to be in the future.
I thought this was a thread about the women not looking like skanks.
Look at what they did to our verdant vixen. This is design devolution, not evoltion. Again, I agree MK9 was ridiculous pertaining female features, but this is going too far the other way. MK6 had a better balance of portraying feminine features without bordering vulgarity (*cough* MK9 *cough*). What really boggles my mind is listening to Steve on Kombat Kast declare these Jade designs are "the greatest costumes of all MK".
"You Totally Slept With Him Didn't Ya"
are you seriously getting annoyed with nrs and what they did with their outfits
when has ed/nrs ever did anything right for mk games honestly they have so many plot holes in their timelines that they try to fix them by only adding more frustration and making the plot holes even worse
and your upset because the females are not showing off skin?
it's a video game nothing has to make sense, if they have the guys shirtless and in shorts so be it so many other video games out there have girls in less and jiggling around, NRS got so much crap from people who did not like seeing this in the females, so they decided to change it up
it has nothing to do with this sjw you people keep mentioning straight guys, girls anyone was annoyed with what was going on these characters are fighters, Sonya is a Special Force person wearing just a vest and heels did not suit her at all so they changed it
Kitana, Mileena, Skarlet and Jade are assassin ninjas walking around in a bikini also does not help with what they were doing, also when you get backlash from people complaining about certain things i think ed and his team of guys (majority) finally got the 'oh maybe we should not make the girls look like sex whores' and matured and we got what we got in mkx
and yes as a female i loved what they did for mkx i loved that Mileena was finally looking how she should look you can be sexy without having your ass hanging out, i found it odd that Kitana was more revealing in her primary then Mileena but i guess she was bad so why not it fit her character. so what if the guys are shirtless or wearing shorts or whatever its time to make the guys in games show off more then females its 2019 you want half naked girls go look at a playboy or go watch porn they are naked in them for people who want to see them
and the backgrounds of certain characters don't always fit with what is going on,edenian is a made up place they might have taken inspiration from other things but Skarlet looking like a pilot about to fly her jet has nothing to do with her roots she was born from being created from blood from warriors so she does not need to be naked to absorb their blood she has matured enough in her time from mk9 to now to master what she can do, are you telling me that ermac should also be showing off his skin to absorb his souls most of his skins he has been finally covered up look at his mk9 design tell me how souls can be absorbed in what he was wearing, it;s a game, it was created by guys who forget what they did a yr ago, and mess up a lot of their story lines
but you actually getting upset cause you want the girls showing skin like come on, yeah certain characters like Goro, Shao Kahn and Kintaro and Kotal wear what they wear cause that is their character design, i'm sorry but i can never see Goro wearing something like Scorpion would wear,
this battle about how women should look in games is just too much, some say looking like street workers is immature and ridiculous, then are like OMG I WANT THEM IN BIKINIS YAY FOR BOOBIES' like have people not matured yet can you not get away from wanting a girl in a game half naked, mk is about killing each other, doing fatalities, being champion not who has more skin showing, or has the bigger breast, like seriously people nrs is finally doing something sort of right making the females be the warriors they should be can you just watch porn like normal guys usually do
I thought this was a thread about the women not looking like skanks.
Hey I just came in and picked up the ball that was already being tossed around. I'm not the one who started throwing it, lol.
>are you seriously getting annoyed with nrs and what they did with their outfits<
Are you seriously implying outfits for characters in fighting games is not important to fans/customers? If so, you must be new to fighting games.
>when has ed/nrs ever did anything right for mk games honestly they have so many plot holes in their timelines that they try to fix them by only adding more frustration and making the plot holes even worse<
I agree with you on this. I am slightly hopeful this time bending theme of MK11 will be yet another reset and so MK12 can be totally fresh and new.
>and your upset because the females are not showing off skin?<
I am a homosexual male. Nope, it is not about getting a sexual thrill. Rather, it is about the double-standard that males can be 3/4 naked (Baraka) but females have, thus far, had their feminine features nearly banned, and most outfits are covered head-to-toe. Again, MK9 was a stripper convention and I think it was a bit absurd that every female had giant water balloons with not much more than strings and tiny scraps of cloth to cover them. But, again, they went too far on the modesty and females look like mummys with mediocre design. I love Soul Calbur, too, and I am elated they did not cave to modern double standards. Ivy is my favorite fighter in any fighting game, ever. She is unapologetic in her female form, and her gameplay is fun as hell, and her story is great. If Boon had his way, Ivy would be dressed in a burka and be transitioning to a "theyperson". I am not going to apologize for wanting any fighter to look like the gender they are supposed to be. As is, MK11 has only one gender for fighters, which is odd cuz I thought masculinity was toxic in 2019...
This may be the first time I've seen a gay guy wanting women to show skin. I must have stumbled into the Twilight Zone.
