Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
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06/01/2019 06:24 AM EST
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I'm sorry but WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SINDEL BIO!?

She what now? She betrayed her own realm to keep her position of power?! Holy fuck! I thought them changing her suicide to a noble act to protect Earthrealm was bad but this is fucking CATACLYSMIC!

Kay now I'm really just done, fuck it. Vogel where the hell are you? Why are you not putting your foot down to this shit?

This universe is fucked beyond belief at this point.

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06/01/2019 08:28 AM EST

You work with what you got...not what you hope for.

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06/01/2019 08:40 AM EST

A Shang Tsung portrayed by Cary Tagawa will always be nothing short of great, but I keep feeling they could have done so much more with his gameplay or design. I dislike his Chameleon/ Triborg-based crushing and fatal blows. Couldn't a character as powerful and versatile as Shang have some of his own, e.g. something MK9-style? Shang is a shapeshifter, I know, but isn't copying ninja moves for special attacks Chameleon's thing, anyway? I presume he can only turn into the ninjas, and not the other characters, which to me gives the impression of yet another half-assed Shang. Also, why does he still wear the costure resembling the one back from MK vs DC? Bring back his attire from DA (both versions) or MK2, or his '95 movie.

And his fatality was just blatantly echoing Noob's & D'Vorah's. He's the Outworld Emperor's arch sorcerer, fgs.... You'd think he would be given the most creative, surprising and outlandish fatality in the game. I liked even his evil clown crap from MK9 better than this.

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RE: I love Cary Tagawa!
06/01/2019 08:50 AM EST

Mindblowing. His moves and ofc himself. I don't wa. T to play him as everyone will do.

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06/01/2019 08:56 AM EST

I've genuinely loved Shang Tsung ever since mid-90s when I first played as him and I should be in awe of this version, but somehow I'm... just not. Much too Chameleonesque, for a character with his range of powers and abilities anyway. He should be able to shapeshift, but not to depend of the specific ninja forms in order to perform combos or fatal blows. Fire skulls, soul steal, summoning spikes or undead warriors... nothing of the kind could have replaced the ninja-based fatal blow for Shang Tsung? And still another (the 3rd one in the game) spawning fatality, really?

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06/01/2019 09:24 AM EST

I will just keep this somewhat short and sweet.

  • Shang Tsung's model looks fantastic and Tagawa delivering those movie quotes is equally awesome
  • NRS using him as a gimmick to utilize the unused ninjas instead of just the roster already accounted for is lame; Triborg 2.0. Fuck you, Chameleon, you're done for.
  • I have said multiple times I have come to terms with guests and the benefits to having them included. That being said, 3 in a single pack is excessive. I love how IJ2 gets more DC folk than guests in their DLC line up and MK keeps getting split 50/50. The fuck is that shit about? If KP2 has another 3 guests, I might just implode.
  • Lets just go ahead and admit it; the DLC leak list is truth. So Fujin being held off until potentially 2020 and KP2 is annoying as hell given the fan demand. Really annoying.
  • Retconning Sindel into a deadbeat dumbass is also annoying. Seriously, fire this writing staff. They are fucking terrible.
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06/01/2019 09:57 AM EST
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Will DLC characters be sold separately after 1 week or only in a pack? I might just buy the whole pack and get it early because I don't think I can wait. Shang Tsung looks sick.

Just bought it. Couldn't help myself lol.

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06/01/2019 10:32 AM EST

Three take always:

1. Shang looks terrific

2. Super depressed that we are only getting 3 total ninjas in mk11

3. I hope nightwolf is young

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06/01/2019 10:41 AM EST

I've watched the trailer so many times I lost count. Tagawa's voice...damn. I really hope they make it announcer's voice as well. Make it and take my money.

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06/01/2019 11:47 AM EST

Well it looks like I'm sitting out on another Mk game. I wanted Smoke properly. Not another random character using his moves again.

Why couldn't this ending have happened?
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06/01/2019 12:16 PM EST

Love every single aspect of MK11 Shang Tsung. 100% badass.

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06/01/2019 12:51 PM EST
06/01/2019 01:02 PM EST
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  • Retconning Sindel into a deadbeat dumbass is also annoying. Seriously, fire this writing staff. They are fucking terrible.

How does her suicide even make sense now? She originally killed herself because she was twisted by depression and couldn't bare to be married to Shao Kahn. In MK9 she was retconned so that she killed herself to form some barrier or some shit around Earthrealm. Neither of these suit this cutthroat monster now.

Holy hell have they ruined her. What was once a tragic character is now just ANOTHER ruthless power hungry cutthroat Edenian. They outnumber the Edenian's who are actually good people now!

Couldn't just make her bio that she was twisted by evil sorcery to be evil as fuck NRS writing team?!

Is anyone writing for this game capable of a god damn google search!?

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RE: I love Cary Tagawa!
06/01/2019 01:02 PM EST

Yeah I'm super excited about this too. I hope they have a movie faithful costume for him (the black trenchcoat with dragon design).

His role in The Last Emperor was his breakthrough performance, but I think his turn as Shang Tsung was the defining role for him to American audiences. I love the fact that he always embraced it too - he spoke highly of the role and how he loves the way fans react to him. He even had that online martial arts class for a while that he did in character as Shang Tsung. To see him reprise the role 20+ years later is so amazing. He was great in the web series, too.

The ninja morphing aside...I do wish his moveset was more specific to him rather than relying on morphing into ninjas, but morphing is a key part of his abilities and I'm glad to see him finally get some respect (he was shit on so much during that horrible 3D era). I cannot wait to play as him.

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06/01/2019 01:13 PM EST

Where is this supposed Sindel bio you are referencing? The trailer only shows Shang, and announces Sindel. I don't see any kind of bio for Sindel i MK11 yet, unless there's a leak.

Link please?

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RE: I love Cary Tagawa!
06/01/2019 01:26 PM EST

I guess Ermacs ending was true. Cary got him ????

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RE: Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
06/01/2019 01:55 PM EST
06/01/2019 01:57 PM EST
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Where is this supposed Sindel bio you are referencing? The trailer only shows Shang, and announces Sindel. I don't see any kind of bio for Sindel i MK11 yet, unless there's a leak.

Link please?

It was in the official press release, and the article here on MKO.

Sindel – The former Queen of Edenia and will stop at nothing to keep her place. Threatened with the loss of her throne when Shao Kahn conquered her realm, Sindel betrayed her husband, and her people, to keep her privileged position. Now, as Shao Kahn’s wife and Queen of Outworld, she enjoys power and wealth beyond most people’s imagination.

To make matters worse, a lot of her intro dialogue is just her being a bitch and trying to fuck a lot of the cast. Literally. Its horrible.

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06/01/2019 02:14 PM EST

Thanks - How the hell did I miss that?

And yeah, that's a HUGE retcon to her character. Her original story since MK3/Deception was that she was forced into marriage to Shao Kahn after Jerod was murdered, and she killed herself...I think when he started turning Kitana to his side and everything seemed hopeless? And then they expanded upon that to include her suicide as a sacrifice to put a protective barrier around Earthrealm so he couldn't take it. It was always a little messy but it was clear - she was good, and only "evil" post-resurrection and under Shao Kahn's control.

This bio completely undoes all that. Not sure what the rationale is behind that.

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06/01/2019 03:53 PM EST

I am excited for Shang Tsung. I do not like the fact he morphs into other ninjas in his moves. This is the second game in a row where they amalgamate different characters in one. Why can't they just let Shang Tsung stand by himself? Everything else about the character looks great. As for Sindel, Nightwolf and the three guest characters I could not care any less. I won't buy any of them. Sindel is a trash character in my opinion and she was in MK9. There are characters that have not been playable since the reboot that would have been more exxciting and interesting to me. Ditto for Nightwolf. And if they were going to bring a character from MK9 it should have been Smoke. He is a much better character than Sindel or Nightwolf in my opinion.

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06/01/2019 06:00 PM EST
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Thanks - How the hell did I miss that?

And yeah, that's a HUGE retcon to her character. Her original story since MK3/Deception was that she was forced into marriage to Shao Kahn after Jerod was murdered, and she killed herself...I think when he started turning Kitana to his side and everything seemed hopeless? And then they expanded upon that to include her suicide as a sacrifice to put a protective barrier around Earthrealm so he couldn't take it. It was always a little messy but it was clear - she was good, and only "evil" post-resurrection and under Shao Kahn's control.

This bio completely undoes all that. Not sure what the rationale is behind that.

What's the rationale behind any of these nonsensical bone head retcons other than to simplify the story to an insulting moronic degree for newcomers of the series.

Noob Saibot is just edgy Bi-Han out to clear his name and regain his honor. Why even call him Noob Saibot when no one refers to him as such at this point and he isn't even a separate entity from who he was as a mortal anymore...

Scarlet is a blood sorcerer.

And Sindel is just two faced and power hungry. Just like Tanya, Rain, and Mileena now. Like it's bad when the shitty sequel to the first movie portray the characters more accurately at this point than the source material.

But who even cares at this point. This story, the lore, the universe and rules that governed it are fucked beyond belief. They couldn't even get aspects of the previous timeline right such as Liu Kang and Raiden's relationship or the fact that Liu wasn't a revenant. He wasn't even in control of his body during Amrageddon.

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RE: Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
06/01/2019 06:24 PM EST

Damn, apparantly I was late to the party and most of it has been said already. Very impressive trailer and Shang Tsung ofcourse. At first I was glad he got his morphing ability back... but apparantly limited to a few ninja's. Don't know, I know it's probably because of limitations and it's easier to load in just one ninja model with pallet swaps... but... I don't know... as others said, it also takes away from Shang Tsung being his own. Same for the Fatal Blow, impressive at first, but would have been better with his own special moves wit souls and such.
Love all the movie references and Klassic reference. As soon as those extra pair of hands showed up, I knew what was going to happen :): But still hoping for a soul steal fatality.

Glad about Nightwolf and Sindel, was hoping to get them in. Still missing Mileena. But 3 guests??!! Really??!! That's just too much.
I'm actually glad how they announced the upcoming fighters, just confirming them, but not showing us them.

Zv1k0

I've watched the trailer so many times I lost count. Tagawa's voice...damn. I really hope they make it announcer's voice as well. Make it and take my money.

Oh yeah, that would be so sweet!!! That option would be turned on in a heartbeat.

Overal, very great trailer and very great Shang Tsung.

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06/01/2019 07:15 PM EST
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frabn

Thanks - How the hell did I miss that?

And yeah, that's a HUGE retcon to her character. Her original story since MK3/Deception was that she was forced into marriage to Shao Kahn after Jerod was murdered, and she killed herself...I think when he started turning Kitana to his side and everything seemed hopeless? And then they expanded upon that to include her suicide as a sacrifice to put a protective barrier around Earthrealm so he couldn't take it. It was always a little messy but it was clear - she was good, and only "evil" post-resurrection and under Shao Kahn's control.

This bio completely undoes all that. Not sure what the rationale is behind that.

What's the rationale behind any of these nonsensical bone head retcons other than to simplify the story to an insulting moronic degree for newcomers of the series.

Noob Saibot is just edgy Bi-Han out to clear his name and regain his honor. Why even call him Noob Saibot when no one refers to him as such at this point and he isn't even a separate entity from who he was as a mortal anymore...

Scarlet is a blood sorcerer.

And Sindel is just two faced and power hungry. Just like Tanya, Rain, and Mileena now. Like it's bad when the shitty sequel to the first movie portray the characters more accurately at this point than the source material.

But who even cares at this point. This story, the lore, the universe and rules that governed it are fucked beyond belief. They couldn't even get aspects of the previous timeline right such as Liu Kang and Raiden's relationship or the fact that Liu wasn't a revenant. He wasn't even in control of his body during Amrageddon.

One of the inaner retcons to me is the fact that now the fate of the universe has been predetermined by titans, who turn out to be more powerful and ancient than the Elder Gods themselves. In fact, a titan is a mother to the very Elder Gods embodying all virtue and all evil respectively. Moreover, the same titan is supposed to govern the events throughout the MK history. But would that not exclude free will in characters? Isn't deliberate defiance to the design of the fate-controlling deity a paradox, if all shit happens because that deity wills it? The whole thing is not just unneeded but illogical as hell too. Essentially, Kronika is the Deity Supreme, something like God the Father in Christianity (which in turn may make one wonder if her intents should really be thought evil), yet a low-tier elemental god and a human monk not only defy her power but also slay her?

It reminds me a bit of the plot in MK Annihilation where Shao Kahn (the "Shinnok" of the movie) was eventually aided by his daddy who angrily complained: "Must I do everything for you"!? Little did I know that, 22 years later, Shao Kahn's paternal grandma would step up and try to rectify her family's mess (???).

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RE: Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
06/02/2019 09:26 AM EST

The nostalgia is here YEAH, so awesome hear Tagawa ́s voice again, and this new Shang Tsung is SUPREME!! And that fatality... SO F... AWESOME

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06/02/2019 04:16 PM EST

He is defying nature and he's been doing it for a crazy long time now. Getting the power of his youth is probably closer to a super charge state. If Shang gets in a fight he's throwing soul energy and other magic around left and right. Without Shao Khan as a supply chain he's probably being economical with his expenditure.

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RE: Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
06/02/2019 06:47 PM EST

Where is Mileena? Her Mortal Kombat X arcade ending made it seem like she would be a safe bet to be in this game.

Also the Sindel retcon is fucking terrible.

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RE: Shang Tsung & Mortal Kombat 11 Kombat Pack Reveal Trailer
06/02/2019 11:36 PM EST

To the people complaining about Shang morphing. What the hell? Where have you people been?

Do you people also not want scorpion to use his spear or sub-zero to freeze?