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MerdynnBlade
04/18/2019 10:57 PM (UTC)
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Nice I cant wait.

And something on her arcade ending ? I always love those. Did see one of Johnny.

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04/18/2019 11:49 PM (UTC)
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MerdynnBlade

Nice I cant wait.

And something on her arcade ending ? I always love those. Did see one of Johnny.

Yeah Sonya has chapter 8 and it’s very good. She kills off a major character and holds Geras back when he attacks the Special Forces. Her tower ending sees her become a god and gives powers to Cassie, Johnny, Jax and Jacqui to fight by her side.

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chadspade
04/19/2019 12:20 AM (UTC)
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So was there any mention of Takeda and Kung Jin?

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fmmotta
04/19/2019 01:17 AM (UTC)
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Does Kitana get a chapter in the story mode?

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Spider804
04/19/2019 01:18 AM (UTC)
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Kitana gets a chapter

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KenshiMaster16
04/19/2019 01:23 AM (UTC)
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I have taken a day to think and sum up my thoughts. as calmly and adult-like as I can; (Spoilers ahead, obviously)

My main issue with this ending, and this story mode in general, is that it feels very amateurish and lame. Everything they set up in X went no where. Everything they've built toward since 9 was for nothing. The big threat of revenants? Always lackies to someone else. Raiden correcting his faults? Nope, just got taken to another type of Armageddon. Kenshi and Takeda and the Red Dragon? Hell, even Kung Jin? Not a single word. Kotal Kahn's in the story but where the fuck are his generals? M.I.A. Most of the other revenants that we know exist with this being Armageddon? Smoke, Nightwolf, Sindel.... no where to be found. This fresh start in 2011 was not just to bring the series back to its roots in 2D, it wasn't just to give us the Trilogy cast again, it was to correct all the convoluted writing and plot holes the series had suffered since Trilogy and to rid us of the characters NRS didn't like and give us new takes on ideas that never got used. But for all intents and purposes Deadly Alliance, Deception and Armageddon's story flowed. It built up over the course of the 3 games. Each installment laid the groundwork for the game that would follow and had a story that was a clear beginning, middle and end. The reboot trilogy, while it has introduced us to a great collection of new characters, has been an even bigger narrative mess than we've ever seen from this franchise thus far. And now everything, every single thing they've done, has the chance of being swept clean....again.

My biggest question, and the one that raises the most anger, is what is this for? Is this for a narrative plot that we have no knowledge of? Will the likes of Liu, Kitana, and whomever be Elder Gods now and new villains will be introduced? Or is this yet another ploy to re-do the original Trilogy with a twist as has been done not even a decade ago? If it's the latter, then I'm not interested anymore. They took all the good narrative faith they'd been building in me since 2011 and tossed it out the window. Mortal Kombat isn't just punching, kicking, footsies and fatalities to me. It's mythology, it's characters, it's a story that brings joy to my inner child and sparks my imagination. To continuously piss that all away and make it irrelevant angers me....no, it legitimately pisses me off. I am sure the game is fun to play and I will enjoy the hell out of it for months and years to come, but will I ever be as excited for another MK game after this? Well, that depends entirely on the actual execution of the story and not a written summary. But from what I've read, I cannot imagine I will be pleased.

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Spider804
04/19/2019 01:32 AM (UTC)
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I feel ya, brother

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Locke
04/19/2019 01:53 AM (UTC)
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Mixed feelings here. Liu Kang and Kitana having a happy ending was long overdue, but maybe the way they chose to do it isn't the best.

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Onaga
04/19/2019 03:42 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16

I have taken a day to think and sum up my thoughts. as calmly and adult-like as I can; (Spoilers ahead, obviously)

My main issue with this ending, and this story mode in general, is that it feels very amateurish and lame. Everything they set up in X went no where. Everything they've built toward since 9 was for nothing. The big threat of revenants? Always lackies to someone else. Raiden correcting his faults? Nope, just got taken to another type of Armageddon. Kenshi and Takeda and the Red Dragon? Hell, even Kung Jin? Not a single word. Kotal Kahn's in the story but where the fuck are his generals? M.I.A. Most of the other revenants that we know exist with this being Armageddon? Smoke, Nightwolf, Sindel.... no where to be found. This fresh start in 2011 was not just to bring the series back to its roots in 2D, it wasn't just to give us the Trilogy cast again, it was to correct all the convoluted writing and plot holes the series had suffered since Trilogy and to rid us of the characters NRS didn't like and give us new takes on ideas that never got used. But for all intents and purposes Deadly Alliance, Deception and Armageddon's story flowed. It built up over the course of the 3 games. Each installment laid the groundwork for the game that would follow and had a story that was a clear beginning, middle and end. The reboot trilogy, while it has introduced us to a great collection of new characters, has been an even bigger narrative mess than we've ever seen from this franchise thus far. And now everything, every single thing they've done, has the chance of being swept clean....again.

My biggest question, and the one that raises the most anger, is what is this for? Is this for a narrative plot that we have no knowledge of? Will the likes of Liu, Kitana, and whomever be Elder Gods now and new villains will be introduced? Or is this yet another ploy to re-do the original Trilogy with a twist as has been done not even a decade ago? If it's the latter, then I'm not interested anymore. They took all the good narrative faith they'd been building in me since 2011 and tossed it out the window. Mortal Kombat isn't just punching, kicking, footsies and fatalities to me. It's mythology, it's characters, it's a story that brings joy to my inner child and sparks my imagination. To continuously piss that all away and make it irrelevant angers me....no, it legitimately pisses me off. I am sure the game is fun to play and I will enjoy the hell out of it for months and years to come, but will I ever be as excited for another MK game after this? Well, that depends entirely on the actual execution of the story and not a written summary. But from what I've read, I cannot imagine I will be pleased.

Yep. I couldn't have said it better. I saw the writing on the wall with MKX, the mythology was being simplified and condensed to a insulting and dull degree.

It was pretty impressive how they fumbled their "clean slate" so hard and so fast after MK9. Every plot thread raised through the muck up of MK9, dropped in favor of them just eagerly trying to rush ahead and explore their post Armageddon wet dream with a new generation roster. And then everything salvageable about MKX, every intriguing plot set up by the end, completely swept aside again. Dark Raiden? Kitana and Liu Kang being all powerful evils now. The revenants. This is actually impressive. This is as bad as how Disney is managing Star Wars.

I'm not gonna go on a whole rant. You did it for me dude so cheers.

I'm mostly along for the fighting now. Which isn't helped by the dull photo realism but some characters still shine like Shao Kahn, Kollector and Noob Saibot.

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Noob-Smoke-MK11
04/19/2019 09:37 AM (UTC)
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Completely agree with Kenshimaster, having not played it yet I can’t trash the whole story as I am sure that it has some awesome parts but that ending sucks balls.

It mean the last two games and every game before that was all for nothing. Of course they’ll bring back the fan faves in the future games I really don’t see them starting from scratch with a whole new cast but it’s just so frustrating when you see them building to a story like MK9 and MKX did then boom back to nothing at the end of MK11.

I like many others love the story of Mortal Kombat the characters the lore and then you see a game like this; already with the retconning I was sceptical but from what I have read over the past few days it just sounds like they don’t give a flying f@@@ about the story and lore and just want to make these fighters for the competitive fighting scene and don’t bother putting any time into any other aspect of it.

Whilst I can understand that that’s where the money is it sucks for fans like me who really enjoy the story side of the game!

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Rykoth
04/19/2019 11:14 AM (UTC)
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I think the hate the storymode is getting is ridiculous. I haven't played it yet but being I love spoilers (they usually tell me if I'll look forward to seeing something or not) so I went ahead and read a good deal of tidbits. MK has never been known to have a truly consistent amazing Game of Thrones level storyline. It's Mortal Kombat. It's over the top. I've loved all of the story modes since they started doing them. It's got a very dark comic booky feel to them - and I say that in a good way. I've always been a fan of MK's story and how absurd it gets.

I'm not against them essentially having another reset either. After all part of the beauty of MK's story is the notion of repetition.

About my only complaint is the lack of Reptile and that's such a minor quibble. Now if only my Gamestop would sell early >_<

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MortalMushroom
04/19/2019 03:34 PM (UTC)
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Rykoth

MK has never been known to have a truly consistent amazing Game of Thrones level storyline.

I think Mortal Kombat could have a really good game of thrones level story, especially if you dig into the details of the original storyline. However, to me it was MK9, the game that some are citing as setting up the new story, that ruined it. That was when the formerly huge overarching story was simplified and twisted into something very basic.

I think that because of MK9, I started looking at the game stories as more standalone experiences, caring less about what the previous games set up. I think that might be where I differ from others; yes the story does not really follow your natural expectations from what the previous games set up, but as a story on its own, I like this one a lot.

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ckl3456789
04/20/2019 02:10 AM (UTC)Edited 04/20/2019 02:13 AM (UTC)
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So earlier I saw the Liu Kang and Kitana ending to story mode as a clip someone posted on the spoiler thread. I just watched the full story mode on YouTube and it did not have the same Kitana and Liu Kang ending, it was Liu Kang and Raiden.

Wtf?

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Stahlgeist
04/20/2019 12:59 PM (UTC)
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ckl3456789

So earlier I saw the Liu Kang and Kitana ending to story mode as a clip someone posted on the spoiler thread. I just watched the full story mode on YouTube and it did not have the same Kitana and Liu Kang ending, it was Liu Kang and Raiden.

Wtf?

I remember reading somewhere on this forum that there might have been multiple endings? I don't know if this is the case at all and it seems unlikely.

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Nemesis316
04/20/2019 02:36 PM (UTC)
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There is. It depends on how well you do against Kronika. If you win both rounds, you get the best ending (Liu/Kitana), if you lose the first round but win the next two, you get the good ending (Liu/Raiden). If you lose both rounds you get the bad ending (Kronika giving Liu the Dark Raiden treatment).

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Onaga
04/20/2019 02:38 PM (UTC)
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Nemesis316

There is. It depends on how well you do against Kronika. If you win both rounds, you get the best ending (Liu/Kitana), if you lose the first round but win the next two, you get the good ending (Liu/Raiden). If you lose both rounds you get the bad ending (Kronika giving Liu the Dark Raiden treatment).

Kay I'm laying my money down on NRS going with the dumbest ending (the bad one) for the next game. Why? Because it's the most pants on head route they could go. And as the last two games have proved, that's the path they prefer.

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FistfulOfDatas
04/20/2019 04:28 PM (UTC)
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I love, love, love this ending.

I agree with you that this isn't gonna result in them wiping out most of the established characters or anything but rather just give them a good excuse to make the changes to the lore they want to moving forward. I'm really intrigued by the idea of Bi-Han not becoming Noob Saibot and us having two Sub-Zero's with different looks and move sets but with both sharing ice/cold themes.

I hope that this doesn't mean no more Raiden or Raiden as a non-god character. Raiden should be a god. Maybe whatever threat they face in the next game will make them appeal to the Elder Gods to restore Raiden as a god because they need the power of two god protectors, so they give Raiden the Thunder God powers back and let Liu be a fire god. I love Liu becoming a god but the one thing that is off about it to me is him being a Thunder God rather than a Fire God although I understand the story reasons why it worked out that way.

And hopefully with this clean slate we get another totally new boss/threat in the next game like we did with Kronika in MK11.

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04/20/2019 05:01 PM (UTC)
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I have only one thing to say about story mode. They need to fire the writer(s). MK never had a good story but nice enough for people to care. I stopped caring when Sindel murdered everybody in 5 seconds and it only got worse from there.

I heared Amy Henning is free (well, I heard she is starting her own studio but it will take time), writing an MK story should be a piece of cake. Please. Just hire better writers. PLEASE!

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Malaraz
04/20/2019 09:59 PM (UTC)
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Hm... so I am the only one who really enjoyed the story mode? I mean... most scenes makes sense for me. Raiden even explained it. There are serveral parallel timelines. So everything could happen.

The only two things I don't like are old Jax's story.... and Frost's story. Because it was just to much of it and a onesided kharacter developing.

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Onaga
04/20/2019 11:43 PM (UTC)
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I have only one thing to say about story mode. They need to fire the writer(s). MK never had a good story but nice enough for people to care. I stopped caring when Sindel murdered everybody in 5 seconds and it only got worse from there.

I heared Amy Henning is free (well, I heard she is starting her own studio but it will take time), writing an MK story should be a piece of cake. Please. Just hire better writers. PLEASE!

Oh jesus christ Amy Hennig writing for MK would be a dream come true! If I can't have her return to Nosgoth then Amy, save MK please!

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Adriano_Goveia
04/21/2019 06:12 AM (UTC)Edited 04/21/2019 06:14 AM (UTC)
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I like the storymode... actually there was a lot of mistakes in MK9 and 10 and this one "kind" of solve the problem...

The was a lot of good moments, like the Scorpion x Scorpion, Kung Lao being a sarcastic friend but secretly envy Liu Kang as the chosen... the villains don't look weak as in MK9 and 10 (Baraka is badass)... the personality of the characters, how the old school evolved in comparison with the new... Skarlet eyes when she talks with Kitana are very expressive, I did like that moment haha...

I like what happened in the ending but I'm worried about next games where the story goes... not a mention of Jin and Takeda was weird... both + revenants could be NPC, because a lot of unknown NPCs were well-elaborated

Maybe finally a Mortal Kombat: Origin

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Malaraz
04/21/2019 06:40 AM (UTC)
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Adriano_Goveia

I like the storymode... actually there was a lot of mistakes in MK9 and 10 and this one "kind" of solve the problem...

The was a lot of good moments, like the Scorpion x Scorpion, Kung Lao being a sarcastic friend but secretly envy Liu Kang as the chosen... the villains don't look weak as in MK9 and 10 (Baraka is badass)... the personality of the characters, how the old school evolved in comparison with the new... Skarlet eyes when she talks with Kitana are very expressive, I did like that moment haha...

I like what happened in the ending but I'm worried about next games where the story goes... not a mention of Jin and Takeda was weird... both + revenants could be NPC, because a lot of unknown NPCs were well-elaborated

Maybe finally a Mortal Kombat: Origin

So true. The Villains were really a threat. I mean.. Geras cannot die and the way they defeat him was nice. It really was the best story mode they ever did and I was entertaint in the best way.

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04/21/2019 11:03 AM (UTC)
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Jaxque's ending is hands down the best lol!!! Couldn't ask for more. Seriously the most interesting one to me was Scorpion's. It was epic. Do they speak about the titans in story mode? I've watched only the endings.

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venivik
04/27/2019 06:10 PM (UTC)
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I don't understand why everyone thinks this will be a reboot. Sounds perfect an actual prequel. Think about playing with kitana's dad, good sindel, the original Kung Lao, early Shang Tsung, Fujin, Havik, Reiko... I mean it sounds pretty awesome to me to actually play the seige of edenia. And then when it comes to story line I hope mk13 can get back to its main roots - a tournament called Mortal Kombat.

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lastfighter89
04/27/2019 07:40 PM (UTC)
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I finally played the story mode and I disagree with KenshiMaster.

First off the 3D Trilogy was just a generic plot: we know this happened, that didn't happened, etc, but it never showed us HOW it happened. The generic plot then branched in unrelated subplots that had no weight or influence on the main story (chaos vs order, bo rai cho leading edenian armies, the brotherhood of shadows, red dragon vs black dragon, etc). The only subplot that had some sort of relevance to the main story arc was Shujinko's travel and even then, one could say that it was purposefully made to give context to an otherwise minor and unknown character named Dragon King. However, Konquest mode had many more and more import plot holes and inconsistencies.

The story modes of MK9, X and 11 actually not only tell a single linear story, but all the subplots are Intertwined in the end (not that there are many of them: the Revenants and dark Raiden)
You say the Revenants are just lackeys? Well, not only it is not true because Liu Kang and Kitana become Emperors of Netherrealm, but even if that would wind up being true, it still makes sense considering that Revenants are intelligent, non-cannibal zombies, aka resurrected slaves.

The story mode of MK 11 is a damn fine masterpiece, the best story mode ever made. It pays tribute to all the Mk games, and still manages to create a new story and shape the future of the series.

What people fail to see is that every mk story mode is like a huge Marvel or DC crossover event. They are not going to tell the story of a single character. They are going to tell the story of a fucking apocalyptic event and how every single character is going to face it.

The games of thrones comparison has no sense, personally I am not a fan of the show, but it is too different from MK. Different in style, different in scope, different in meaning. Mk is a good vs evil story using multiple mythologies as source of inspiration. GoT is a series of shady, selfish characters without a real ethical code if not the pursuit of power. Mk is about "contextualized" superheroes. GoT is more about baddie vs baddie in a competition to whoever sits on the throne first, wins.
It is a great story, but it lacks ideals. It lacks the "good" of the good vs evil part. It's a story that doesn't make me dream about it.
A better comparison for mk11 would be Avengers Endgame.
Both are ending chapters of a story several years in the making, those stories haven't a single protagonist (some characters received more development than others, but you can't find a single protagonist in both stories, as there are multiple main characters), both stories have to be a conclusion and a new beginning at the same time, they reference and self-reference, they pay tribute and are the ULTIMATE fan service epic story.
They are epilogues that will awaken the child within you, they make you dream and fall in love with their stories and characters.

A love letter wrote for the fans by professionals that consider themselves fans. A love letter from fans to fans, basically.
The role of a single character or minor inconsistencies in the story are not enough to ruin the overall story arc.

MK11 is both an end and a new beginning.
Mk Armageddon was supposed to be the same and it failed miserably. That's why I can't take seriously who says that the 3D era had better stories and characters.

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