Your Guest Kharacter pick?
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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

So...you're telling me that MK9 and MKX are the best selling games of the franchise, SOLELY based on the fact that they had guest characters? Not the insane step up in graphics, gameplay, storytelling, etc.?

Hyperbole.

I didn't say SOLELY, but they are a HUGE PIVOTAL part of it. Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice. Pretty graphics or not. And nobody but hardcore nerds gives a shit about these half-baked ridiculous messes NRS pass off as storylines.

I told you it was a HARD TRUTH.

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03/08/2019 02:55 PM EST

All of MK11's DLC should be MK characters in my opinion. The only exception I would make is if there were characters from Killer Instinct considered for DLC. Horror flick DLC was a stupid idea and with all the speculation about Spawn, as a reminder, was already a guest character in Soul Calibur 2. There are too many characters in the MK universe who deserves a chance to be DLC.

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03/08/2019 03:05 PM EST

My preference is for only MK characters.

Hope they are done with horror movie characters.

I guess if if I had to choose, I wouldn’t mind a dc character like Bane. I think he would be a good grappler and fit the MK style.

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03/08/2019 03:38 PM EST

If I had to really choose...

Weregarurumon or bring back a character from Primal Rage?

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Primal Rage

That game deserves its own reboot.

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03/08/2019 04:42 PM EST

There should not be guest characters.

But there is absolutely 100% going to be guest characters.

As for my idea of what Jigsaw would be like, he would wear the pig mask and longcoat. He'd play like an Injustice gadget character, activating traps, summoning the tricycle puppet as a projectile, etc.

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Damashi says I'm the Champion
I'm meeting new friends
And stealing all their moves
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I'm on a Konquest Adventure
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03/08/2019 04:44 PM EST

I'd also say there's a 75+% chance of a DCU guest character.

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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

So...you're telling me that MK9 and MKX are the best selling games of the franchise, SOLELY based on the fact that they had guest characters? Not the insane step up in graphics, gameplay, storytelling, etc.?

Hyperbole.

I didn't say SOLELY, but they are a HUGE PIVOTAL part of it. Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice. Pretty graphics or not. And nobody but hardcore nerds gives a shit about these half-baked ridiculous messes NRS pass off as storylines.

I told you it was a HARD TRUTH.

So, MK11 is all over gaming sites, social media, YouTube, etc. and not a single guest has been mentioned(meant to say announced. End edit). You and I know they’re coming, but the average person is more “OMG FATALITIES1!!” than “OMG PENNYWISE”.

The only sales guests affected for MK9 and MKX were DLC sales. The fact that you’re pushing this “guests are all WB cares about” narrative comes down to your seething hatred for anything that taints your vision of this series. That’s the hard truth, here. I have no doubt they see guests as extra leverage to pull a few more dollars out of casual wallets, but guests keeping this franchise alive in their eyes? Absolute hyperbole.

You work with what you got...not what you hope for.

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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

So...you're telling me that MK9 and MKX are the best selling games of the franchise, SOLELY based on the fact that they had guest characters? Not the insane step up in graphics, gameplay, storytelling, etc.?

Hyperbole.

I didn't say SOLELY, but they are a HUGE PIVOTAL part of it. Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice. Pretty graphics or not. And nobody but hardcore nerds gives a shit about these half-baked ridiculous messes NRS pass off as storylines.

I told you it was a HARD TRUTH.

So, MK11 is all over gaming sites, social media, YouTube, etc. and not a single guest has been mentioned. You and I know they’re coming, but the average person is more “OMG FATALITIES1!!” than “OMG PENNYWISE”.

The only sales guests affected for MK9 and MKX were DLC sales. The fact that you’re pushing this “guests are all WB cares about” narrative comes down to your seething hatred for anything that taints your vision of this series. That’s the hard truth, here. I have no doubt they see guests as extra leverage to pull a few more dollars out of casual wallets, but guests keeping this franchise alive in their eyes? Absolute hyperbole.

Excuse my French, but that's a goddamned lie. EVERY comment all over MAINSTREAM social media in relation to MK11 is about guest characters. That's it. The fact you're acting as if fatalities are getting more conversation is absolutely ridicules.

Let MK11 have NO guests and see what how fast this game SINKS. Guest what? Won't happen because WB aren't stupid- they know what their bread and butter is and that's not your precious MK1-MK3 characters- but characters completely out of this franchise.

I hardly recognize this community anymore. Everyone is so fucking blind to every negative thing NRS/WB does and refuse to accept it. But I know when to give up, at the end of the day no MK will never dare NOT have a guest and you can pretend that it's not what it is. Whatever.

MK9 had 2 guests. MKX jumped to 4. MK11 may jump to 6.

But let's just ignore that and pretend that's not WB's feelings.

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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

So...you're telling me that MK9 and MKX are the best selling games of the franchise, SOLELY based on the fact that they had guest characters? Not the insane step up in graphics, gameplay, storytelling, etc.?

Hyperbole.

I didn't say SOLELY, but they are a HUGE PIVOTAL part of it. Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice. Pretty graphics or not. And nobody but hardcore nerds gives a shit about these half-baked ridiculous messes NRS pass off as storylines.

I told you it was a HARD TRUTH.

So, MK11 is all over gaming sites, social media, YouTube, etc. and not a single guest has been mentioned. You and I know they’re coming, but the average person is more “OMG FATALITIES1!!” than “OMG PENNYWISE”.

The only sales guests affected for MK9 and MKX were DLC sales. The fact that you’re pushing this “guests are all WB cares about” narrative comes down to your seething hatred for anything that taints your vision of this series. That’s the hard truth, here. I have no doubt they see guests as extra leverage to pull a few more dollars out of casual wallets, but guests keeping this franchise alive in their eyes? Absolute hyperbole.

Excuse my French, but that's a goddamned lie. EVERY comment all over MAINSTREAM social media in relation to MK11 is about guest characters. That's it. The fact you're acting as if fatalities are getting more conversation is absolutely ridicules.

Let MK11 have NO guests and see what how fast this game SINKS. Guest what? Won't happen because WB aren't stupid- they know what their bread and butter is and that's not your precious MK1-MK3 characters- but characters completely out of this franchise.

I hardly recognize this community anymore. Everyone is so fucking blind to every negative thing NRS/WB does and refuse to accept it. But I know when to give up, at the end of the day no MK will never dare NOT have a guest and you can pretend that it's not what it is. Whatever.

MK9 had 2 guests. MKX jumped to 4. MK11 may jump to 6.

But let's just ignore that and pretend that's not WB's feelings.

Lol, man, they must be hidden under all the Mileena, Rain, and Sindel requests. *shrug*

We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

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RE: Your Guest Kharacter pick?
03/08/2019 08:20 PM EST
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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

So...you're telling me that MK9 and MKX are the best selling games of the franchise, SOLELY based on the fact that they had guest characters? Not the insane step up in graphics, gameplay, storytelling, etc.?

Hyperbole.

I didn't say SOLELY, but they are a HUGE PIVOTAL part of it. Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice. Pretty graphics or not. And nobody but hardcore nerds gives a shit about these half-baked ridiculous messes NRS pass off as storylines.

I told you it was a HARD TRUTH.

Idunno... except for Kratos, all of the guest characters came at the tail end of a Kombat Pack. Freddy wasn't even announced until the end of MK9's life cycle.

Guest characters definitely help sell DLC -- which is probably a good thing, since a boost in the DLC sales from casual players buying guest characters can help to subsidize the return of lesser-known MK characters that only old fans have the experience to be enthusiastic about.

Guest characters might help sell "complete edition" versions of the games, when the biggest sale window has come and gone and they're just trying to pick up stragglers. But if the guests are nowhere near the marketing of the game around launch time, I don't see how they could influence primary sales at all.

I'm not enthusiastic about guests myself, but a friend of mine came up with an idea for Shaggy to get in as a skin for Johnny Cage (since he's an actor) and even though that would be stupid as shit, it would be hilarious to hear Cage yelling "ZOINKS!" as he performs a Shadow Kick or "Right in the Scooby Snacks!" after a nut punch, haha.

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03/08/2019 09:00 PM EST

This a heated debate! Passionate!! I'm with hyperbole and umbra on this; guest characters really aren't THAT important to WB. It's Mortal Kombat, the game will sell. Honestly, I feel like they could've waited till now to even drop a first trailer, and the game would've still sold like crazy in a month from now. At this point, they really wouldn't have much need of promoting the game. A game like this promotes itself. If they had waited till around this time, and dropped one big reveal trailer, with cinematics, gameplay, a bunch of characters and some info, I really think they could've just dropped all the Kombat Kasts and reveal trailers, and the game would still sell like hot cakes. They don't need guest characters at this point. And I honestly don't see a lot of people talking about guest characters. But then again, I'm not on Twitter, so I'm like a Troglodyte in that regard, which I'm perfectly fine with. Not even exaggerating, it's like I'm in some kind of hyperbolic time-chamber.

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03/08/2019 10:12 PM EST
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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

Look man, I like you. You've got passion coming out the wazoo but boy are you wrong here. The Mortal Kombat name and spectacle are what sells Mortal Kombat not Freddy or Predator. It's why for the longest time it was the only thing keeping Midway afloat.

If WB was enforcing guest characters upon NRS they would have them stick Aqua Man and Shazam in to further market their next DC films.

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Hard truth- Guests characters probably what keeps this franchise alive in Warner Bros eyes.

A reality we have to just deal with.

Hyperbole.

How is it hyperbole? Guests characters are a legit REQUIREMENT.

They're not a requirement. They are a marketing gimmick for pretty much every fighter these days. Draws in more casual players and casts a wider net. But it's not a requirement to keep MK or Soul Caliber afloat.

They are a requirement ENFORCED BY WARNER BROS.

NRS has no choice in the matter. They HAVE to include guest characters.

And honestly, the sales of MK9 and MKX would've been way lower if it weren't for the guests.

I don't like them. But they are a requirement and will remain a permeant fixture in the MK franchise.

Look man, I like you. You've got passion coming out the wazoo but boy are you wrong here. The Mortal Kombat name and spectacle are what sells Mortal Kombat not Freddy or Predator. It's why for the longest time it was the only thing keeping Midway afloat.

If WB was enforcing guest characters upon NRS they would have them stick Aqua Man and Shazam in to further market their next DC films.

Well. We'll just agree to disagree. Fair enough.

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03/09/2019 09:32 AM EST
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Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice.

:D Mortal Kombat is possibly the single most mainstream fighting game there is. Street Fighter is arguably just as popular / well-known, but MK is easier for "casuals" to get in to. The series had 7 main entires with numerous spin-off before guest characters were introduced. Not to mention the movies, TV shows, cartoons, comics, machinima, etc etc.

Saying that MK would flop if guest characaters weren't added is like saying nobody bought MK before Skarlet was introduced.

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Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice.

:D Mortal Kombat is possibly the single most mainstream fighting game there is. Street Fighter is arguably just as popular / well-known, but MK is easier for "casuals" to get in to. The series had 7 main entires with numerous spin-off before guest characters were introduced. Not to mention the movies, TV shows, cartoons, comics, machinima, etc etc.

Saying that MK would flop if guest characaters weren't added is like saying nobody bought MK before Skarlet was introduced.

I'm not saying MK would flop. The MK community and fanbase is HUGE. I'm just saying, it wouldn't do as well as MK9 and MKX have done- which have broken records.

But as I said earlier, there's no way of proving that because WB will never let a MK game go without guests. But I'll drop it.

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Guests are here to stay, unfortunately. The game would sell just as well without them but DLC sales would be lower for sure. Most hardcore MK fans are getting the game and all DLC because they are hardcore fans. Casuals who get the game are not going out and buying the game because Jason ends up in a DLC pack a year later, they are buying the game as casuals but not buying the DLC because who is Rain? who is Fujin? etc but they see a favorite horror movie icon that they do know and think would be cool to see, then they buy into the DLC. it's a gimmick aimed to sell more DLC to the casual who otherwise would just stick with the base game as they only know who Scorpion is anyways. The game would do just fine sales wise, but DLC sales would take a big hit. Sooo unfortunately we will always be stuck with Guest character DLC :(

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03/09/2019 07:59 PM EST
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The game would do just fine sales wise, but DLC sales would take a big hit. Sooo unfortunately we will always be stuck with Guest character DLC :(

And DLC sales are VITAL these days.

Hard truth, indeed.

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Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice.

:D Mortal Kombat is possibly the single most mainstream fighting game there is. Street Fighter is arguably just as popular / well-known, but MK is easier for "casuals" to get in to. The series had 7 main entires with numerous spin-off before guest characters were introduced. Not to mention the movies, TV shows, cartoons, comics, machinima, etc etc.

Saying that MK would flop if guest characaters weren't added is like saying nobody bought MK before Skarlet was introduced.

I'm not saying MK would flop. The MK community and fanbase is HUGE. I'm just saying, it wouldn't do as well as MK9 and MKX have done- which have broken records.

But as I said earlier, there's no way of proving that because WB will never let a MK game go without guests. But I'll drop it.

Okay but one fatal flaw in your logic is that no one knew about the guest characters until several months after launch...And those games each sold amazingly well.

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Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice.

:D Mortal Kombat is possibly the single most mainstream fighting game there is. Street Fighter is arguably just as popular / well-known, but MK is easier for "casuals" to get in to. The series had 7 main entires with numerous spin-off before guest characters were introduced. Not to mention the movies, TV shows, cartoons, comics, machinima, etc etc.

Saying that MK would flop if guest characaters weren't added is like saying nobody bought MK before Skarlet was introduced.

I'm not saying MK would flop. The MK community and fanbase is HUGE. I'm just saying, it wouldn't do as well as MK9 and MKX have done- which have broken records.

But as I said earlier, there's no way of proving that because WB will never let a MK game go without guests. But I'll drop it.

Okay but one fatal flaw in your logic is that no one knew about the guest characters until several months after launch...And those games each sold amazingly well.

That INCLUDES the DLC sales, dude. Lol.

Come on.

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03/10/2019 01:42 AM EST

Although I prefer no guests, if we are getting them anyway I'd love to play as Beetlejuice, Michael Myers or Pennywise!!

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03/10/2019 05:04 AM EST

MC Ride

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Main stream audiences were lured toward those games BECAUSE OF THE GUESTS.

If MK11 had no guests, the mainstream wouldn't look twice.

:D Mortal Kombat is possibly the single most mainstream fighting game there is. Street Fighter is arguably just as popular / well-known, but MK is easier for "casuals" to get in to. The series had 7 main entires with numerous spin-off before guest characters were introduced. Not to mention the movies, TV shows, cartoons, comics, machinima, etc etc.

Saying that MK would flop if guest characaters weren't added is like saying nobody bought MK before Skarlet was introduced.

I'm not saying MK would flop. The MK community and fanbase is HUGE. I'm just saying, it wouldn't do as well as MK9 and MKX have done- which have broken records.

But as I said earlier, there's no way of proving that because WB will never let a MK game go without guests. But I'll drop it.

Okay but one fatal flaw in your logic is that no one knew about the guest characters until several months after launch...And those games each sold amazingly well.

That INCLUDES the DLC sales, dude. Lol.

Come on.

I meant within the first week of sales WB was coming out about how happy they were with the sales and numbers were being released telling us how MK9 and MKX were the best selling titles in the series yet.

The DLC played no part in that. I will extend an olive branch here though and say that it's possible Freddy did draw in more casual players who came back for MKX hoping to see more movie characters enter the series.

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03/10/2019 09:37 AM EST
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The game would do just fine sales wise, but DLC sales would take a big hit. Sooo unfortunately we will always be stuck with Guest character DLC :(

And DLC sales are VITAL these days.

Hard truth, indeed.

They're really not. This whole thing that "game dev costs are higher and they need DLC and microtransations to make bank" is a false narrative made by greedy publishers trying to justify charging more and more.

CEO's alone are making 10-30 million annually, while bragging about how the companies are making more money than ever. Games that "don't meet expectation and are considered a flop" are still earning hundred's of millions in profits. DLC and microtransactions are only a fraction of their income. But these greedy a-holes want to squeeze as much money out of people as possible.

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The Belmont Brothers, (Simon and Richter) from Castlevania

Ridley (From Metroid)

Also, I don’t get why Mortal Kombat fans get all pissy with guests while others games like Smash Bros fandom accepts them like desert. I don’t seen any salt regarding Simon, Snake or Joker (Honestly, he should guest star Mortal Kombat 11 instead of Smash) starring in Smash. Or Rash, Arbiter, and General...I forgot his name at Killer Instinct.

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