*Applaudes*

I remembered how people were bad mouthing "Jade" and "Ermac" during Deception and how they hoped they wouldn't be in the game. When it was announced they were in and renders were released, all of a sudden fans were "OMGZ! JADES AND ERMACZ LOOKZ AWESOMES!!!".

That roster he posted didn't look horrible to me either. As long as the characters have a great story, I could care less who's in the game. I'd prefer one with characters from MK4-MKA anyway so they can finally be DEVELOPED! Damn!

Well, I get it. I know that Scorpion and Sub zero sell games. It wouldn't be MK without them.

On the other hand, you promote a game that has a lot of death, and focus on gruesome ways to kill people, and its story has had absolutely NO DEATHS. Ok so Lui Kang died in MKDA, but HE CAME BACK as a zombie =) and magically there he was again in Armageddon.

But let's think about WHY, at the time, Boon WANTED to "wipe the slate clean." What could've been his motivation for that? Even though he never did it, why was he thinking it? Was he tired of the story? Was Midway pressuring him for something new?

Not all people are like that. I will say up front I'm not really a fan of Night Wolf but he is IMO a classic member of the roster. The same with Raiden or Mileena again not really big fan's of them but they are classic. I view the classic roster as MK1-3.

I just wanted to add one more thing. I was not really a fan of Liu Kang until about 2-3 years ago but even then when they killed him off I was like WTF hes one of the main people in MK you can't just killed him off like that.

Right now this game is a stepping stone. They're simply just trying to make a great classic MK that the public have been asking for. What is wrong with that? Then in MK10 we'll continue to build on what this game introduced along with adding new characters and continuing the new story this one is giving us. Why is it so hard for you to accept that? I understand you want new characters NOW, but as stated before, this isn't the game for it.

You're right, he is bringing everybody back. Diehard fans, more recent fans, and a whole new crowd.

I see this Mortal Kombat game to be the re-establishing of the frenchise. What goes on after this and what the sequel will be, is still up in the air. But before the team can take any drastic turns in terms of characters, storylines or whatever, they need a game like this. They need to sort of re-introduce Mortal Kombat, which is why I think it is simply Mortal Kombat.

New coming gamers will probably would not be intrigued to play this MK game if it did true to Boon's statement and wipe the slate clean. I mean, if someone bought this MK game, and notice Scoprion or Sub-Zero weren't in it, they'll probably be like ' wtf is this? ' And sales will do poorly. But by doing an MK game that takes us back in time, brings the classics back, newly and improved stages, and an altered storyline, gruesome fatalities it is only a win-win situation for everybody. Diehard MK fans will be pleased, and new gamers will be introduced to the MK story by being able to relive MK1,2,and 3 and get a feel for the storyline/characters/stages/fatalities, and everything MK offers. I'm pretty damn sure whoever buys this game, will surely by the next MK game.

Lets be honest, the best Mortal Kombat games were the first 3, and that was when MK was at its prime. Why not take Mortal Kombat back to it's prime, with newly enhanced technology? It just makes so much sense to me.

The MK Team is doing the right thing. And they proved it by doing as good as they did at E3.

DUH! Of course not EVERYONE is like that. But MOST fans are.

For the record, on my own account as I cannot speak for anyone else, I have always been pro-MK1-Mk3 characters regardless of who it was. I can't say that I like them all, but I can say there's none in there that I can't stand either. So I was never at any time against any of the classics, and when I say classics I mean it as MK1-MK3, and I have always wanted them to return. I agree with you that a lot of people are hypocrites and say one thing and then do another when it's put to the test, but as I said, I have always preferred the older ones. That's my opinion. If you enjoy some of the newer characters, than that's fine as well, there's nothing wrong with that, I was strictly giving you my take on the matter.

The only characters I can say I liked from MK4-MK:A were:

Quan Chi
Kenshi
Li Mei
Frost
Hotaru
Ashrah

And many of them I wouldn't mind seeing get a second chance to become more fleshed out and have a better role, but only if they come in at 3-5 person incriments and leave the rest for people I know I will enjoy. I don't want 85% of the roster to be a toss up on whether or not I will enjoy them. Though, unlike the ones from MK1-MK3, there's actually people I have no desire to see again:

Jarek
Tanya
Meat
Bo Rai Cho
Blaze
Mokap
Shujinko
Dairou
Darrius
Kira
Kobra
Taven
Daegon

Those all IMO were just bland or uninteresting. At least the other characters that I didn't mention had some qualities about them that I could see being expanded upon etc. There's only so many specials, powers, and stories you can give a character, and I felt these were the worst of the bunch.

I can totally understand that. Most deffinitely. I also agree with that list, though I'm willing to give any character a second chance, but they would have to do A LOT with Darrius, Taven, Dairou, & Daegon to get me interested. I think those are the most boring characters in the series. Especially Darrius and Dairou. I'm not going to even mention Mokap.

I have a really weird soft spot for Kobra. I just love the fact he's a straight up sociopath.

NO!!
this is a way to show new players the original story without having to play the olders games and maybe give us long time players a chance at a new future. they started adding SO MANY new characters that it did actually get out of hand. This way they can start (hopefully) killing off and KEEPING dead some characters, this way they can evolve the story and allow for new champions and developments. some of the unpopular characters can be killed off or NEVER BROUGHT UP!! Ha!

Anyway again NO I'm not tired of it....if they were to NOT evolve the story I'd still be invested for the next 20 years. This is a storyline that I have loved for many years and will keep loving.

I'm not tired of it. We've been screwed over since MKD. MKD didn't focus on many classic characters and instead focused on Shujinko, a lame kung fu movie cliche who was bland as hell. MKA focused on Taven and Daegon and those gods or whatever. I didn't understand the story, and it focused on a bland character once again. MKvsDC did focus on the characters I like however, it isn't canon to the story.

Not too mention I hate most of the new characters from MK4-MKA. Most of them look like they don't belong in an MK game, and some stole specials from other characters. I am happy to see a new game focus on the icons that helped make the series popular. The new storyline gives it a chance to keep the characters we know and love while also having new stories later that won't screw up continuity or kill fan favorites for no reason.

Not all of us hated Deception. It's my favorite game.

No seeing that all the ps2 mortal kombat games sucked hardcore, I couldn't be more excited for an awesome mk game with a great fighting system.

The thing I hate about most new characters, that I haven't really mentioned...is the fact that a lot of them were simply meant to replace or take the role of a character that's already well established and liked, and they were poor replacements at that. They did this by stealing specials, or stealing their story or role etc. and they just never outshined any of the originals, and that's mainly why they were sent to the garbage after that game and only came back for MK:A.

Let's run down the list:

MK4:

Jarek:
Poor replacement of Kano, even used Kano's moves.

(Some could argue the reasons Kai and Fujin never caught on was because they were made to end up replacing Raiden and Kang but it just wasn't meant to be.)

MK:DA

Bo Rai Cho:
A joke character with really dumb specials that would only appeal to a 9 year old.
Movado:
Used Kabal's Hookswords, and he had only 2 special moves, one of which was a strafing move
Frost:
I liked Frost, but I am sure most people just see her as a female Sub-Zero and nothing more, which it's hard to argue that.
Hsu Hao:
Just a poor design and looked like a Red Dragon version of Kano. He had terrible moves.
Blaze:
Just a bunch of recycled moves from people in the game.
Mokap:
He's the Stryker of the 3D era, except he's way worse cuz he's nothing more than a simple joke character with recycled moves of people in the game.

MK:D

Kira:
Replacement for Sonya, and her moves weren't really anything great and she stole Sonya's Kiss of Death special, and Kano's knives.
Kobra:
He just seem liked he walked straight out of Street Fighter, which he was based off of. He also stole Sonya's weapons.
Dairou:
His design and story were meh, as well as his specials, which one was taken from Jarek.
Darrius:
Just an odd design and lame story, and he stole Cyrax's twisty kicks.
Shujinko:
He was meant to replace Liu Kang, but his lack of original moves and being a total tool all his life just made him lame.

MK:A

Taven and Daegon:
Both terrible uninteresting designs and stories. Their moves were meh as well.

Those are my reason at least for not liking them, but I am sure others have their own or have different opinions. I am not saying those guys can't get a second chance...but I don't see the need. As long as you have their original characters that they were meant to replace I see no need for them. Unless they can get a better design, better unstolen moves, and better stories than I have no desire to see them. I left out the ones I felt had a shot at making a splash if included in another game. The only personal exception I would make from this list is Frost, and that's cuz I enjoyed her specials and I dig her look as an actual female ninja, not just one with a mask on.

I like the Street Fighter IV approach. The characters from MK1-3 are classics to many people. They all stand apart as unique in what they contribute to the game while offering compelling ways to fight and advance the story.

MK4 is where I think things began to falter, but I think even that is because many of the elements from MK4 were never followed up on. Shinnok is a dark, evil, powerful Elder God and the boss of MK4 and yet after MK4 he was all but forgotten and his appearance in MK:Armageddon was quite forgettable. Compare that to Shao Kahn, who even now is still being used as the de facto "boss" of MK year after year. That says nothing of squandered characters like Reiko, Fujin, Kai, Jarek, or even Tanya. Only Quan Chi really emerged as a standout from that game.

I love the original MK1-3 roster, and yet I do have a lot of love for Kenshi, Quan Chi, Sareena, and Li Mei. And I'm all for a few fresh, new faces showing up as well, provided they've got the style and potential to be standouts and not throwaways.

There are plenty of characters I could do without ever seeing again because they ultimately contributed nothing to the game or the story. Hmmm, sounds like a good thread to make.

Well, if the gameplay is amazing, and the story mode interesting, probably not only I can wait until MK10, but also I can give a second chance to some characters that lose time ago (no Scorpion, isn't your case). I know that sometimes is necessary make sacrifices... but seriously, if MK10 turns to basically the same MK9 roster, I will riot. SERIOUSLY.

Ur a complete retard then. And dude I mean really what is wrong with people wanting to get rid of the classic characters that each one of us love even if its jst one in specific we loved them when we first played as one of them and these new characters wont mean shit to the series with their lackluster stories and them not even being great at all ive given sum of them a chance but really I can say theres jst sum I hardly even noticed in the game at times and could care less about them.

In regards to storytelling I really think the implementation of "Guest Fighters" in future MK games is the way to go.

Guest Fighters are basically fanservice characters without a story in the current games plot. Similar to how many boxing games feature Muhammad Ali despite he's been retired for decades now.

There are a number of reasons I think this is a good idea:

- Some characters are going to hit a dead end in plot, but have become so popular the fan base are going to want to keep seeing them back in the ring. This would allow those iconic characters to keep appearing in exhibition battles while not turning the plot into a muddled "why won't you just die!?" mess.

- With the current roster size of most MK games, having a set of characters without story would allow the developers to put a much stronger focus on the plot of those who do.

- A number of the more forgettable characters from the newer games felt like they just took an old character's gameplay an shoved it into a slopped together new character with a slopped together story. Lets cut out the middle man and use the saved time to put even more focus on the inspired new character ideas.

- Talk about the importance of the story all you want, but Boon and his team weren't hired to write a book. They are making a commercial video game. Gameplay, fanservice, and profits will always take priority over story telling. However there are measures that can be taking to preserve solid story telling with the cannon plot while still servicing the needs of those that just want to play the game with their favorite faces, story be damned.

I don't know, would it be so terrible of a compromise if certain iconic characters stepped out of the story when their time was due, but still were around for noncannon things like Arcade and Versus mode in followup games in a "Greatest Legends" type sense?