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Do you think the storyline(s) will really be altered a lot or just slightly?
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posted06/17/2010 11:47 PM (UTC)by
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From the little we know about the storyline, everyone pretty much knows that this takes place after MKA, then something happens with Raiden which we're all speculating as to what exactly happens or how exactly he's able to go back in time or at least make some kind of contact with himself from the past.

Like some people have suggested, and I know I thought about this, is that it couldn't possibly be as simple as Raiden can time travel at will... or talk to himself in the past at will. First off, I don't think the Elder Gods would let him do that anyways, but if he could, he'd be able to do whatever he wanted and nothing bad would ever happen.

We can all only speculate about how exactly Raiden goes back or makes contact with his past self. But how much could he actually change or alter without it completely altering the past? I'm not suggesting that everything will just change, everybody's storylines will be different, all the "canon" storylines will go out the window, but I just can't help but think what exactly is going on and how much could change.

I'd also like to throw this out...

Do you think the MK team felt like they NEEDED to make the storyline of this game a continuation of MKA and not simply a complete reboot with new characters, new storylines, etc.?

After what happened with MKA, I would've been surprised if they didn't do SOMETHING to correct the disaster of MKA. But I mean, really, MKA was gonna end like that? Really? I'd have to say I'm excited that they're continuing the current story, and now time traveling, making some changes, and now have an opportunity to clean up the storyline.

And if this game does indeed take place between MK1-MK3, that's obviously only half the series. Should we assume that the next game will continue through the 2nd half of the series or will it just sort of create a new and/or different storyline from MK4 and on?
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 •06/17/2010 02:07 PM (UTC) •
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Apocalypse27 Wrote:

Do you think the MK team felt like they NEEDED to make the storyline of this game a continuation of MKA and not simply a complete reboot with new characters, new storylines, etc.?

Absolutely.

Had this game been an actual reboot without canonical justification, I'd be in a mental ward writing my name on the walls with blue crayon.

As for the original topic, I don't think they would do write anything that would mess with the games classic aesthetic. As for the more abstract issues (rivalries, alignments, etc.), we may see quite a bit of tweaking.
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 •06/17/2010 02:25 PM (UTC) •
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maybe this reboot? half reboot? was one of the smartest decisions the Mk team ever made.

Due to some small changes during the new Mk game the story kan continue todally different in the next Mk game but still include a lot of the kharacters from Mk 4 5,6,7

the kharacters like quan chi, shinnok, onaga even and moloch kould be the same guys in future Mk games but they kould be in a different situation and with different goals and enemys as in the previous Mk games..and the best is that it would even be kannon. MKA wouldnt be due to different decisions in the past..kant wait for this game and also future installments
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 •06/17/2010 02:50 PM (UTC) •
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It wouldn't really make much sense to reboot the series if they're still going to use all the new characters. I think it might be the teams way of removing the new generic uninteresting characters.
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 •06/17/2010 02:51 PM (UTC) •
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it'll be altered so much Jax will be white and Sonya will be black.
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•06/17/2010 02:55 PM (UTC) •
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I'd have to assume that part of the reason why they want to go back and do this is because MK has always had the what-if endings, so aside from the main story, it can be very hard for the average (ie non-hardcore) fan to discern what exactly happens to the characters from game to game. You know, what the ENTIRE story actually is for the MK universe.

I think that this might be their way of going back and giving us the real story of what happened in these three games. Of course, the fact that Rayden's possibly altering quite a bit means that this will also have a freshness to it, even for the hardcore fans. So if done right, we could all be sort of playing the old MK games again for the first time.

It's called having your cake and eating it too.

Personally, I think that if done well, it's one of the best ideas the MK team has ever had.

Of course, the downside could be in the decisions they make and what people think of those decisions. Does anyone really want to see Robot Sonya or Motaro joining the Special Forces? So they'll certainly have a needle to thread here if they want to get this just right, but while I'm certain they won't please everyone, I'm holding out hope that this great idea turns in to a strong overall story.
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 •06/17/2010 03:22 PM (UTC) •
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Either way is fine with me. I mean, it's being done anyway, might as well roll with the punches. On one hand, I certainly wouldn't mind it if we just got a canonically retelling of MK2 and MK3 with slight differences here and there (Sub-Zero doesn't have a scar! Gasp!). On the other hand, I'd find it peversely interesting if we got a severely altered timeline, where certain alliances are never made, and some stories are never realised (perhaps Edenia always remains chained to Outworld?).

To be honest, I don't see the MK Team changing much. This is just their way of going back to classic themes that worked well. The art is very much the same as it was at MK's peak, the 2D gaming is back (not that they couldn't do that anyway), and the characters are mostly classic in a classic setting. It's just a way to go back to a safe place, and to use nostalgia to sell tickets. Smoke might remain a human, because Human Smoke was very popular, and Johnny Cage probably won't die every five minutes, but that is about it. It's just the safe way to do things, and as this is a re-establishing period for Mortal Kombat, that is the way they (and Warner Bros.) probably feel safe doing things.

A lot of focus will probably be on the brutality of the game, and the gameplay heading into the release, as the characters won't offer much new. It'll be "play as your favourites!" The game will be released, it will sell alright, and then everyone will be stumped as to where they go with the series then. Then the whole hype process begins again. It may be then that we'll get a true chronological sequel in the MK world, with the events of this game carrying onto a new threat. Maybe Shinnok (who was well before his time -- a good villain executed poorly), or something completely different.
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 •06/17/2010 04:36 PM (UTC) •
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I think there won’t be too much changes during this game. I think the biggest change will happen near the end and after MK3. I also don’t think the will be another game continuing this storyline. My guess is they want to settle this once and for all.

Maybe, just maybe (and if possible), they will release a short add-on DLC which continues and ends the story (if not already ended) after this. This would also be a great opportunity for the few best character from the later games to return.
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 •06/17/2010 07:51 PM (UTC) •
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It wouldn't make much sense to devote an entire games worth of storyline only to get back to the mess that was Armageddon in the next game.
I feel pretty sure that the storyline will stay in this new universe.
It would make it easier for any new fans to follow on too.
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 •06/17/2010 07:53 PM (UTC) •
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There's no reason to not make the changes drastic. If were rebooting, why not swing for the fences?
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 •06/17/2010 07:55 PM (UTC) •
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There's no reason to not make the changes drastic. If were rebooting, why not swing for the fences?


Because if they screw it up and the story is way worse than it was the first time, there's no going back as far as we know. MK10 isn't going to be yet another remake of 1 thru 3.
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 •06/17/2010 08:05 PM (UTC) •
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The only thing I'm worried about in this time altering stuff is what happens to younger Sub-Zero. While Scorpion is my favorite and best character, I liked Sub-Zero's story and personality. I hope they don't change that drastically, but everything else I'm extremely interested in.
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 •06/17/2010 08:07 PM (UTC) •
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Chilly-McFreeze Wrote:
it'll be altered so much Jax will be white and Sonya will be black.

When you think about it, "Sonya Blade" DOES sound like a blaxploitation name, like Cleopatra Jones.
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 •06/17/2010 08:12 PM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
OptimusGrime Wrote:
There's no reason to not make the changes drastic. If were rebooting, why not swing for the fences?


Because if they screw it up and the story is way worse than it was the first time, there's no going back as far as we know. MK10 isn't going to be yet another remake of 1 thru 3.


Well, that's the risk of a reboot. I maintain that since the old games aren't going anywhere, let's use the new timeline to really shake shit up.
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 •06/17/2010 08:21 PM (UTC) •
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The old games' universe has apparently been destroyed by Armageddon, though.

If your favorite character was Younger Subby with the scar, who went through all that great growth and took over the clan and trained Frost and learned about the Cryomancers, and this game turns him in a robot before he gets the chance to do any of that, guess what? His story is over in BOTH worlds and you'll never get to see him again.

That's a big "fuck you" to that character's fans. And that's just one example of what this game COULD do to EVERY character.

I like to use Star Trek '09 as an example of the RIGHT way to reboot a series' history. Yes, there were changes. They blew up Spock's home planet, for instance. That was big and different. But at the end of the movie, every CHARACTER was exactly the same as in the TV show. They had respect for the fans like that, they didn't kill off Scotty or anything stupid.
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 •06/17/2010 08:28 PM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
His story is over in BOTH worlds and you'll never get to see him again.



You can replay the old games. That's allowed.
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 •06/17/2010 08:31 PM (UTC) •
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OptimusGrime Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
His story is over in BOTH worlds and you'll never get to see him again.



You can replay the old games. That's allowed.


Playing an old game's not the same as playing a new one and you know it.
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 •06/17/2010 08:40 PM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:


Playing an old game's not the same as playing a new one and you know it.


I never said otherwise. I'm saying that even though the timeline is being altered, the classic story is still there for anyone who cares to go back and experience it.
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 •06/17/2010 08:41 PM (UTC) •
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OptimusGrime Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:


Playing an old game's not the same as playing a new one and you know it.


I never said otherwise. I'm saying that even though the timeline is being altered, the classic story is still there for anyone who cares to go back and experience it.


Except that it came to a tragic end where everybody dies. I don't think you're getting this "It's over, we'll never see a continuation of those versions of the characters" thing.
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 •06/17/2010 08:46 PM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I don't think you're getting this "It's over, we'll never see a continuation of those versions of the characters" thing.


I get it, it just doesn't bother me.

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 •06/17/2010 08:47 PM (UTC) •
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Well it bothers the fuck out of me. I want to be assured my favorite characters will be in future Mortal Kombat games and not some sort of altered approximations who might be god damned robots this time.
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 •06/17/2010 08:52 PM (UTC) •
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So they're altering the story a bit huh?

Gay Jax and Robo Raiden CONFIRMED!
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 •06/17/2010 08:59 PM (UTC) •
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Mokap will be a cyborg.
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 •06/17/2010 09:25 PM (UTC) •
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 •06/17/2010 09:38 PM (UTC) •
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SubMan799 Wrote:


my god


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