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09/24/2011 11:44 PM (UTC)
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Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.
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09/24/2011 11:46 PM (UTC)
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.

*scratches head* confused
Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.
Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.
I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?

I'd prefer something more like what Vanessa in Virtua Fighter wears... (except throw in tank top).

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.

Oh, no worries. I'm sure you'll be pleased as punch when I get to Jade.
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Garlador Wrote:
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.

*scratches head* confused
Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.
Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.
I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?

I'd prefer something more like what Vanessa in Virtua Fighter wears... (except throw in tank top).


Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.

Oh, no worries. I'm sure you'll be pleased as punch when I get to Jade.


Yeah I could definitely see Sonya sporting something closer to Vanessa's look. You could even take off Vanessa's jacket, throw on a sports bra on Sonya and call it a day.
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09/25/2011 12:17 AM (UTC)
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.


*scratches head* confused

Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.

Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.

I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?


How is that being repressed by not wearing a belly piercing? She's a soldier hunting a violent criminal organization in MK1 and in MK3 she's fighting for her life in a full blown war. If you're in a cut throat fight, I doubt priority number one is to look pretty, practical yes, pretty, not so much..

I always pictured Sonya in something similar to Sheva Alomar's costume from RE5, but obviously with her own style to it.

Her Shaolin Monks costume is great though, actually both of her Shaolin Monks costumes were great, I want to see Sonya with a bun again and wirh a camo headband, no piercing though, but even if she did have it, it would be better than her high heels and current outfit.
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09/25/2011 12:25 AM (UTC)
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Espio872 Wrote:
SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.


*scratches head* confused

Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.

Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.

I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?


How is that being repressed by not wearing a belly piercing? She's a soldier hunting a violent criminal organization in MK1 and in MK3 she's fighting for her life in a full blown war. If you're in a cut throat fight, I doubt priority number one is to look pretty, practical yes, pretty, not so much..

I always pictured Sonya in something similar to Sheva Alomar's costume from RE5, but obviously with her own style to it.

Her Shaolin Monks costume is great though, actually both of her Shaolin Monks costumes were great, I want to see Sonya with a bun again and wirh a camo headband, no piercing though, but even if she did have it, it would be better than her high heels and current outfit.


A belly piercing isn't going to put you into some kind of strategic disadvantage, especially when it's a simple stud like the one she was sporting. Plus if we're going to throw on character traits onto a character from our perspective, Sonya could be wearing one just because she enjoys wearing piercings. It wouldn't have a thing to do with her wanting to look pretty on a mission to hunt Kano.

Point being, people don't want Sonya to show off any sex appeal because she's supposed to be a military chick, but what they bitch about most of the time has nothing to do with the character being portrayed as impractical, at least up until this game where she's wearing a flack vest as a bra and fighting in high heels. But even then it's not something I'd personally get all red ass angry about.
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09/25/2011 12:46 AM (UTC)
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I'm not red ass pissy about it though........so yeah.


She's in the Specials Forces, a branch of the U.S. military, that's all I'm saying. If Mileena had a piercing I wouldn't have anything to say because it would fit her character's nature and portrayal

And people fight dirty, ripping out any piercing would hurt and you could potentially bleed to death from getting a belly button ring ripped out hard enough, so yes she would be at a disadvange, it's also why long hair isn't good to have if you're a warrior, people tend to pull it, that's why many men and women wear their hair in a bun or have it shorter if they're fighter, anything that makes it easier for your enemy to get ahold of you is a disadvantage and if they get control of your head or any other sensitive area, they can destroy you.

I'm having a serious business moment, excuse me.
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09/25/2011 12:49 AM (UTC)
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.
Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.
I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?

Well, she is an agent representing the United States government, tracking down dangerous criminals and being hunted by monsters. If she's on the clock, she's not supposed to look hot, she's supposed to be prepared to fight for her life and defend the innocent, which isn't conveyed very well in spandex, tank-tops, and kevlar protecting only her nipples. Of all the female characters, she's the one you would expect to be prepared with some defense-themed clothing.
Perhaps the uniform thing's a little much, but it's not far off from Johnny Cage fighting in a suit/tuxedo alternate since MK4. I'm just fed up of her looking like she just got out of the gym or finished a sting operation looking for johns to bust.
Edit: Wow, lots of replies based on what I wrote. In any case, I'm not getting red-hot pissed about it, but I do want to see some change for her. All the girls are sexed-up, is it asking a lot for them to not look like that? Heck, Ashrah's the only modest MK girl.
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09/25/2011 02:16 AM (UTC)
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lol I don't know whether to laugh or frown.
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09/25/2011 03:21 AM (UTC)
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If I were the sister that Sonya was named after, I'd feel pretty kick ass that my name was given to such a kick ass character.

If I were the sister that Tanya was named after, I'd be concerned that my brother may think I'm a bitch.
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09/25/2011 03:54 AM (UTC)
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This thread was like a lovely set of pillows for me to rest my weary head upon after a long day. Great stuff.
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09/25/2011 09:18 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.


Oh, If I would have known you were actually gay I wouldn't have said it.

Kinda like how I would call a white friend "My Nigga", but not a Black friend. Weird metaphor but it's all I got.

My humblest apologies JR.
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09/25/2011 04:52 PM (UTC)
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OMG, Garlador, before I make a decent response to your glorious KOTW thread, I just have to remind that you totally missed Rosetta's and Derek TickleMuffins' best MK game appearance and character development EVER!

Queve feels that it is almost crucial that you edit your original post to feature the wonders of her partners just like the ones you featured in the first pictures you posted.

Behold, the biggest mountains of MK and the smallest little MK waist ever (though her MKvsDC waist might provide some competition):



MK: Shaolin Monks is easily one of the most well developed (exaggerated?) appearances of Sonya's loyal partners. She's got a body that reminds me of Jessica Rabbit.

Her waist is probably the smallest (ever) in the history of MK and till this day I can't understand how she manages to stand up without breaking her back or falling down flat on her face:


(yeah, I like this render much better)


Only her MKvsDC waist could provide some form of competition. It's like, impossibly small and it makes you wonder how Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins are not breaking her back:



And even her partners official art work (some in games that are better left unmentioned) are quite impressive:



And because I feel it is necessary, here are a few other Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins character pictures, because it's relevant and absolutely crucial to the significance of this thread:

















You know, just for a more complete, technical and absolutely accurate confirmation of the facts stated in this glorious thread...and educational purposes, while you are at it.

I'm so looking forward to your Sonya Blade analysis and I actually hope to see a few "boob jokes" and "lingering pictures of her partners". Good to see you are as hilarious and as entertaining as ever, Garlador.

PS: I forbid you to make any "Gorilla" jokes about the gorgeous MKDA Miss Blade. She's definitely much more than what you give her credit for! wink



Will come back to reply a real in-depth analysis on our beloved Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins a bit later. They are definitely MK's biggest...stars? All the other gals resent her.

On a serious note, excellent job at tackling certain significant and annoying factors concerning some specific characters lack of attention and development. While this might have been for a good laugh, you certainly did a good job at (subtly) expressing "under the table" the community's concern and annoyance when it comes to the unfair treatment that certain characters have received over the past few years.

This thread was a great laugh and a real breath of fresh air. Thanks for keeping things light, cool, and glorious in MKO, Garlador! Good job! smile
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09/25/2011 05:42 PM (UTC)
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This could have been such an awesome title screen if they hadn't taken Sonya's already questionable MKDA face and rolled it over the back of someone's knee.

Btw, Queve, I'm gonna get back to your PM - just running a little short of time lately. smile
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09/25/2011 06:22 PM (UTC)
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Sooo, just to get this out and ready:

1) A fun and hilarious thread that really gives MKO a breath of fresh air.
2) Excellent "subtle" comments concerning the lack of development and attention that certain characters deserve.
3) Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins are, unquestionably, MK's biggest TT's.

That being said, I do not necessarily approve of huge exaggerated boobs and would prefer a more realistic and decent approach to the females in MK. In all seriousness, I don't care much about the exaggerated size of Sonya's double D's, however, I take personal offense at the fact that she is not wearing a fucking simple shirt under her sexy vest. Just ridiculous...oh, and that all the females went to having generic high-heel or stilettos. So stupid.

That is why I'd like to address some excellent comments that were shared in this thread:

Espio872 Wrote:

I think a more modest portrayal of Sonya would be great, I'd love an update of her MK4 costume, just simply add a badge and drop the hat perhaps(or keep it). I always found Sonya infinitely more appealing because of her subtle sexuality and beauty.


I absolutely agree.

MK9 is the first game ever where I actually questioned and took offense at Sonya's look (speaking only of her primary costume, of course). Sure, she looks hot and badass and those pants are absolutely awesome. But, no shirt? High heels? Tons of cleavage?

Excuse me, but, does NRS even know their own characters?

This is one of MK's biggest fails imo. Thank God Sonya is great in the game (story mode and gameplay), or else, she would have been a serious disappointment to me. And thank God for that glorious alternate costume. Her best costume to date, imo.

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To be honest, I'm very worried about Sonya's costume in the next game, I'm sure her companions, "Rosetta and Derek Ticklemuffins" will get more shine and prominence. I just would have thought that a character whose name was derived from one of the creator's siblings would have gotten a bit more respect and no I'm not attacking NRS or anything, this is just me ranting, but I presume I was wrong. Sacrificing a quality character for mindless titilation is not my cup of tea, not to mention, I have a more personal reason for taking an offense and interest in Sonya's portrayals that has to do with my personal life, but since it's not emotional hour, I'll be quiet.tongue


I couldn't agree with you more.

I like my Sonya to remain sexy and badass without the need of stripping her down to a "bikini swim-suit battle outfit".

If they ever have Sonya fighting in a thong, without her pants, or with most of her boobs exposed, I will seriously throw a bitch rage that will shake the very core of NRS's spine.

I don't care about Sonya looking "more realistic", "more military", or more "close to our current reality soldiers". I love the liberties they take with her design and I would prefer an even more "futuristic" approach to her costumes. That being said, I'm not against having a balance and keeping her respectable.

MK9 vest + No shirt = STUPID.

Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.


I don't mind the thong and I would actually love the belly-piercing to return. And yes, I too would like a costume similar to her MKDA alternate, but, with a more "futuristic" approach. Her MKDA alt was really classy and elegant, imo. I really liked it.

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Also, what should we name Stryker's ass cheeks?


Law and Order.


I LOL'ed...very very loud. grin

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If I didn't trust your sense of humor so much, I'd fear you'd have no jokes left for next week. Having said that, this is one for the record books. You have given these two characters the respect and admiration they deserve, and thusly proven that Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins are more than just something to finish on two minutes after pausing the game.


Oh Leo, how I miss your posts. Come back to us!

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Most important characters in the series, haters are flat-chested and bitter, etc. etc.


Quoted for being the absolute truth.

PS: Yay about the pm! smile

SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
Jerrod Wrote:
I would really like it if she had more costumes similar to her MK:DA alternate, in an actual uniform instead of letting her boobs and thong straps hang out. If there's any character that should be modestly dressed and look serious, it should be Sonya.


*scratches head* confused

Why would you want to see her MKDA uniform return in any incarnation? I mean, I get the desire to see Sonya in military gear is as strong as wanting to see her butt naked, but why that outfit? That uniform wasn't suited for combat any more than her default. It's a dress/officers uniform. It'd be like if the Marines went into combat wearing their graduation outfits, lapels, white gloves and pin stripped pants and all. If anything the outfit that should get brought back is her Shaolin Monks one, belly piercing included to throw fans into whole new rage.

Speaking of which, why all the hate for the thong straps? Sonya already doesn't wear a bra and was sporting hip huggers to begin with. Seeing no straps would just mean that she'd just be sporting a camel toe also.

I don't think Sonya needs to let all of her assets hang out, but I don't see why she has to be needlessly repressed either. Not even a belly piercing? Really?


I love her belly piercing. So. Sexy.

Many costumes in MK are "not suited for combat" when you stop to think about it. I don't think that's even a central issue when thinking about a characters design considering MK's already well stablished position when it comes to these stuff.

This is not even a big deal.

The real problem is having a costume that actually FITS the character's overall personality, attitude, portrayal, and presentation. Her MKDA alternate did that pretty well (even if its not supposed to be a combat costume, its totally Sonya). Her MKDA primary, for what it was, managed just as well even with a silly thong. So did her MKSM design despite the belly piercing and the impossible small waist.

I don't think people want to "repress" her, but, most fans, me included, hope for a look that actually fits who she is supposed to be and represent. MK9 primary is honestly the only Sonya costume that I've ever felt that failed this goal (not ecounting MK1 and MK3 for obvious reasons, cause those are worse).

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If I were the sister that Sonya was named after, I'd feel pretty kick ass that my name was given to such a kick ass character.

If I were the sister that Tanya was named after, I'd be concerned that my brother may think I'm a bitch.


LMAO!

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here's hoping they get more exposure in future games... Bah, who am I kidding, they're more well-known than Khameleon, they'll be back in full force next time.


Thankfully! grin
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09/25/2011 10:18 PM (UTC)
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It seems during the events of MKDA Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins developed a distaste for one another, hense the distance between them,
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09/25/2011 10:28 PM (UTC)
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Oh lords, Queve... XD
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09/25/2011 11:52 PM (UTC)
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Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins had a nice showing on the new awesome/godawful Tommy Wi-Show.

Tommy Wi-Show

In T.W.'s own words, "c'mon, little lesbian" and "Oh you got the big boobs so you think you're smart".

Very true, T.W. Very, very true.
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09/27/2011 04:27 PM (UTC)
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raidenthefridge Wrote:
It seems during the events of MKDA Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins developed a distaste for one another, hense the distance between them,
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LOL.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Oh lords, Queve... XD


I know...I have a problem.

Garlador Wrote:
Rosetta and Derek TickleMuffins had a nice showing on the new awesome/godawful Tommy Wi-Show.

Tommy Wi-Show

In T.W.'s own words, "c'mon, little lesbian" and "Oh you got the big boobs so you think you're smart".

Very true, T.W. Very, very true.


LOL. Shaolin Monks still wants a word with you, buddy.
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10/02/2011 07:57 PM (UTC)
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I have a belly button ring, and wear the ones that have some little jewel hanging. When it gets caught and pulled, it hurts like a muther-trucker. If someone were to rip it out, I would possibly run to the nearest hospital since after all, taking care of having a belly button piercing is major work as soon as you get it... Mine got a little infected, and believe me, it was disgusting to see a mass of puss build up right near the top of it and having it pop to see the puss and blood splur out. Made me vomit a few times... Yes, belly buttons are a bitch.

I'm pretty sure the belly button ring discussion is over, but, taking it from a person who does wear one and having it pulled a few times, I should say, it would totally be a disadvantage to have in a fight .

I did not like seeing that render with Sonya wearing hers because honestly, she's not the kind of person who should wear something like that. I don't think the military even allows that on women to begin with. If she is supposed to represent the military, honestly, there has not been one game that she has been in that has made me realize that she is apart of the military in a way. That is why I made a huge rant thread about her somewhere on this site that she makes no sense.

And with the boobs, there's pros and cons of having big boobs. Pros - Guys will like you, guys will stare at you, guys will pet them and treat them like royalty. Cons - The bigger they are and the smaller you are leaves to horrible back pain.
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10/02/2011 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.

....I agree with you...this one was just like wow ...and not in a good way.....but apparently everyone else and their momma seems to like it....whatev.....
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10/02/2011 09:17 PM (UTC)
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keyara412 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.

....I agree with you...this one was just like wow ...and not in a good way.....but apparently everyone else and their momma seems to like it....whatev.....


Well, Garly DID make a great thread about Sonya as a character after this one, so he is forgiven. ^^
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10/03/2011 08:20 AM (UTC)
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keyara412 Wrote:
....I agree with you...this one was just like wow ...and not in a good way.....but apparently everyone else and their momma seems to like it....whatev.....

Some of us are responding for shits and giggles, I hope you realize.
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10/03/2011 10:47 AM (UTC)
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I think some people missed Garlador's whole "I'm doing this post about Sonya's tits now so I can do the ACTUAL Sonya review without making tit jokes every 2 sentences".
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10/03/2011 12:29 PM (UTC)
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keyara412 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Just because I am gay, doesn't mean I hate women or boobs or whatever.
I simply didn't find this thread and the topic very interesting. A thread about Stryker's ass written in the same manner would get the same reception from me.

There's no reason to have a go at me simply for not liking something.

....I agree with you...this one was just like wow ...and not in a good way.....but apparently everyone else and their momma seems to like it....whatev.....


Well you have to remember something. During pre-production when Sonya was finally released for us, NO ONE liked what she wore. Her thread had at least 745 replies to it out of the other ones that had like 250 replies, all because of her shirt and how there was no undershirt.

People even went to great lengths into re-designing her, people actually liked that redesigning more than the actual thing...

I just hated that she again is wearing high heels becuase it makes no sense that she would wear something if she was to be someone representing the military.

Though, I'm sure that this isn't the main reason but... We all have to remember that her boobs started a lot of hate.

It's what we girls have to get used to, boobs will one day destroy mankind. I am convinced at least. Boobs and belly button rings.
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