How come we dont see Jataaka and Kia around Quan chi more??
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How come we dont see Jataaka and Kia around Quan chi more??
05/16/2014 01:37 PM EST
I always found it weird in the last story mode, he didn't have anyone from the Brotherhood of the Shadow help him with things (besides Noob). Shouldn't Quan chi always have his servants around?

And i wonder.... will we get to see Ashrah serve him in the next game before she purifies herself?? and will her uniform be similar to Sareena?
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05/16/2014 03:37 PM EST
Didn't Bi Han defeat them/kill them in Mythologies? I personally wouldn't mind seeing them return. I just thought maybe they're "dead" because of the events from Mythologies. Could be wrong though.
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05/16/2014 08:23 PM EST
Icebaby Wrote:
Didn't Bi Han defeat them/kill them in Mythologies? I personally wouldn't mind seeing them return. I just thought maybe they're "dead" because of the events from Mythologies. Could be wrong though.


i assume they aren't dead anymore as they returned in Mortal Kombat Armageddon's Konquest mode. Which was a canon story..

though i remember the programmers mistakenly put Sareena with them. She wasn't supposed to be partnered with them again... but a different assassin.

I wonder who that assassin would have been....
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05/16/2014 08:50 PM EST
I guess he more so just defeats them. And it was odd to see Sareena in there with them. I guess there's more to these girls than we know? It wouldn't hurt to see them again, they have more potential than those from Special Forces.
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05/16/2014 09:03 PM EST
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I guess he more so just defeats them. And it was odd to see Sareena in there with them. I guess there's more to these girls than we know? It wouldn't hurt to see them again, they have more potential than those from Special Forces.


she wasn't supposed to be there cause she had already betrayed Quan chi to join Subzero's side... but the programmer didn't know the MK story too well and put her in with them anyways.... and when John Vogel found out, it was too late to change it. I read it myself when they did a chat on this site alot of years ago.

well they have more going for them as they have two canon appearances in MK's story while ppl originating from Special Forces have no canon appearances to date.

I don't think they'll ever end up playable though as they're just minor henchwomen. but it'd still be nice if we could see the brother of shadow members around him more often. As he is their leader after all.
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05/16/2014 09:07 PM EST
I only liked Sareena out of the three. And Quan Chi only needs one, as he only ends with one in MK Conquest.
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05/17/2014 11:16 AM EST
You don't kill them in Mythologies. The only one you have the chance to do a Fatality on is Sareena, and choosing to spare her is the choice the canon follows.

As far as Sareena being on Quan Chi, Kia, and Jataaka's side in Armageddon, despite the fact that it was originally a mistake, Vogel's bios that came out online after the game released did a great job of making sense of it by explaining the following:

When Sub-Zero and Sareena met in MKDA, Sub let her join the Lin Kuei for protection and gave her a compass or something that would show her were Lin Kuei HQ is. Instead of going back to Earthrealm, though, she secretly followed Sub cuz she wanted to protect him.

At the end of Deception, Sub-Zero went to the Netherealm to find Noob and Smoke, but they were too tough for him and he almost got killed. Sareena saved him, but being in Hell caused her to transform into her demon form, which Sub didn't recognize and attacked, so she ran away to avoid hurting him.

Noob, Smoke, and Quan Chi ambushed her and Quan forced her to rejoin and give them the compass with some "Sub-Zero will never accept your true nature, you belong with the rest of us evil demons"-type bullshit and it worked 'cause she's the sad, low-self-esteem type.

And that also explains how Noob and Smoke found the Lin Kuei temple to attack it during Taven's Konquest (Because if you'll recall, Sub-Zero moved the clan when he kicked Sektor out and took over, so Bi-Han and Smoke wouldn't have known where the new hideout is on their own.)

So it all ties together pretty nicely really.

But yeah, none of them are dead. They just didn't put Kia and Jataaka in most of the games because they're too lazy to make NPCs most of the time.

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05/17/2014 03:24 PM EST
I figured they didn't die, but seeing how characters have totally different stories as well as being confused with he canon themselves, I thought maybe they would have just been listed as dead since Mythologies. I know that the only assassin you kill is Sareena (I do that every time, it's fun). My thought was just how everything is, they'd be considered dead since the only other time we've seen them was Armageddon. But oh well, three characters that could be really great in the story are just not around when they really should be.

My only concern if they ever become playable characters is how would they play like? Would they all be the same but just have different attacks? It would be a shame for them to play altogether granted that they're assassins together because I don't feel they should all play the same. However, if they're just going to be npcs for the next game, I would definitely like to see them. They should have had an appearance in this game, I would have liked to see that with Quan Chi. But hey, it's whatever. I just don't want three characters in the game that plays exactly alike each other just with different specials.
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05/18/2014 10:06 AM EST
I can't imagine Kia or Jataaka ever being playable. They could maybe be someone you fight AGAINST in like a challenge tower situation like the Director or Ruutuu or whatever, or if they started adding more creative, challenge tower-esque fights and tests to their story modes because it makes sense to fight henchmen and guards and stuff like that sometimes, but they just don't have enough story or personality to be worth putting on the roster.

I've said it multiple times before in other threads. The REASON Sareena and Ashrah are characters, and Kia and Jataaka are not, is because Kia and Jataaka are loyal, they stay Quan Chi's bodyguards. Only the ones who aren't the same, who have their own thoughts and feelings and plans are dimensional enough to be characters, and not EVERYBODY can turn against Quan and go off on their own because that would just make them all the same again. (Not to mention it would make Quan look like an idiot who's bad at picking henchpeople he can trust, and one of Quan's character traits is supposed to be that he's great at judging character and manipulating people into doing what he wants.)
Besides, if you turn all your NPCs into main characters, then you don't have any damn NPCs anymore, and having background characters who stay in the background is important to telling stories.
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05/18/2014 02:40 PM EST
1) Because girls are icky and filled with cooties.

2) Because they never really included Sareena until Armageddon. No. A GBA game doesn't count. So they weren't needed to be rendered.

3) Maybe because Quan Chi from Deadly Alliance onwards was more of a character that was constantly on the run and his lackeys weren't available.

4) Mythologies and MK4 were probably seen as such massive fuck ups that they don't like referencing them too much.
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05/18/2014 05:26 PM EST
>It wouldn't hurt to see them again, they have more potential than those from Special Forces.

Hey, what problem does everyone have with Special Forces? Yeah, the game play was bad, and I could say its main protagonist is pretty underdeveloped, but what's to say its antagonists have less potential that demon slaves? Was it because of plot holes or something?
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05/18/2014 10:27 PM EST
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>It wouldn't hurt to see them again, they have more potential than those from Special Forces.

Hey, what problem does everyone have with Special Forces? Yeah, the game play was bad, and I could say its main protagonist is pretty underdeveloped, but what's to say its antagonists have less potential that demon slaves? Was it because of plot holes or something?



The characters from that game had no impact other than Tremor, and even with that I question why that is. I see no one asking to see Tasia and No-Face to return, despite that they have a chance just like any other character that made an appearance in the adventure games. But even then, there's got to have a perfect reason to appear and not just because they need to be in a fighting game finally. And I really feel, if any of these npcs ever become an actual character, they're gonna suck.
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