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krac_poe
11/20/2010 05:38 PM (UTC)
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Bored. Sorry but the MK females don't really matter. They have little effect on anything story-wise of any magnitude, other than the player's erections. In the beginning Sonya was added to break up the MK1 sausage fest and not much has changed since.
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Milaana
11/20/2010 05:39 PM (UTC)
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More and more this seems to end in a pretty girls contest rather than a fighting game.

What will be the title? America's next fighting model?

Really MKTEAM think about this, why EVERY female in the game should look sexy and good? Most of the male characters look ugly and freaky. There should be freaky ugly girls aswel in the world of MK, atleast make Sonya, Sindel and Sheeva more like freaks, tomboys and monsters, not sexy girls that belong to tekken or dead or alive.
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Milaana
11/20/2010 05:40 PM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:
Bored. Sorry but the MK females don't really matter. They have little effect on anything story-wise of any magnitude, other than the player's erections. In the beginning Sonya was added to break up the MK1 sausage fest and not much has changed since.


This is total bullcrap as Kitana and Sindel have big parts in the storyline, atleast more than Sub-Zero.

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krac_poe
11/20/2010 05:44 PM (UTC)
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Hey, don't blame me. I dont write for the game. Kitana and Mileena are there for cat-fight appeal, and I dont think Sindel actually did anything. She was brought back to life by Shao Kahn. Thats about it.

No female in MK is as complex or ubiquitously important as a Raiden, a Liu Kang(not complex, but important), or a Sub Zero.
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~Crow~
11/20/2010 05:45 PM (UTC)
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Technically, Sub-Zero has little importance to the overall plot of the game.
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krac_poe
11/20/2010 05:47 PM (UTC)
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You're right, scratch him out for Quan Chi or Shang.
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11/20/2010 05:48 PM (UTC)
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Sindel was the McGuffin that made it possible for Shao Kahn to invade Earth. She is important. Is she an active participant of the events? Absolutely not, not untill MKD and after that, 0.
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TheWiseFlea
11/20/2010 05:50 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Theoretically, Sonya's costume should reflect where her character is in the storyline. As a lieutenant in the US Military, it's hard to fathom this is what she'd be wearing. Even off duty this seems like a stretch to me. It's oversexed just for the sake of being so, therefore I call it a bad character design because it is not befitting to the character.


This is a great elaboration of previous comments, and it makes good sense to me. Although I like the new look, it is largely inconsistent with her bio.

I also LOL'ed at the porn star reference. It's kind of true.

Also, I agree that the square wave should be given some sort of contextual instrument on her wrist.
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krac_poe
11/20/2010 05:51 PM (UTC)
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Thats what I meant by what I said about Sindel. She was a glorified tool. She didnt actually DO anything.

I'm a pretty attantive fan, but I tend to forget what most people did during DA - Armageddon. Those stories pretty much tapered off to nothingness.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 05:52 PM (UTC)
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Wow what a dumb yet sexist thing to say and I'm a guy and even that offends me! How are you going to say the females of MK are of no importance to the storyline? Sonya Blade was apart of the forces of light and the original squad that helped protect Earthrealm! Kitana is the princess! Sindel clearly was A MASSIVE part of MK 3 as well as Jade! Mileena is also a very crucial part to the storyline! So clearly your not familiar with the game's story or your just a sexist guy who thinks with the tool between his leg!
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TheWiseFlea
11/20/2010 05:53 PM (UTC)
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Really MKTEAM think about this, why EVERY female in the game should look sexy and good? Most of the male characters look ugly and freaky.

There should be freaky ugly girls aswel in the world of MK, atleast make Sonya, Sindel and Sheeva more like freaks, tomboys and monsters, not sexy girls that belong to tekken or dead or alive.


LOL, NRS is dreading the day that they have to concept Sheeva and going "She is so ugly, we have to make every other girl super fine to make up for her ugliness" (joke)
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krac_poe
11/20/2010 05:54 PM (UTC)
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I knew I was gonna get sexist flack.

Like I said, I don't write for the games. If the girls of MK had decent stories, I'd be all for them. There's several men in the game I feel the same about.

Lets not make this about sexism.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 05:56 PM (UTC)
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Too late I've already labeled you as a sexist person so therefore it's pointless to try and make me think otherwise,so hey continue to be sexist and enjoy being a tool congrats your what JC's character USE to be lol
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-Brad-
11/20/2010 05:56 PM (UTC)
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In Soviet Russia, Sonya reveals you.
>_>
The design looks good but a white shirt underneath (her MKvsDC shirt) would be much bettter.

I almost think they need to show a complete naked female just to get it out of their systems and move on.

I like it but jeez put a shirt on Sonya :\

If they removed Jax's gun is it possible to add a simple white shirt underneath for her?
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Registheman
11/20/2010 05:56 PM (UTC)
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Crow u speak the truth man.
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RazorsEdge701
11/20/2010 05:58 PM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:
I'm a pretty attantive fan, but I tend to forget what most people did during DA - Armageddon. Those stories pretty much tapered off to nothingness.


Were you to have any credibility in the first place, it definitely died there. DA and Deception were vastly deeper and more detailed than the stories of the first 4 games, and it's your own loss for choosing to not pay attention to the series' storyline highpoint out of what I can only guess was some sort of misguided sense of "everything was better when I was a kid than it is now" nostalgia.
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XiahouDun84
11/20/2010 06:01 PM (UTC)
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MKSquad Wrote:
How are you going to say the females of MK are of no importance to the storyline?...Kitana is the princess!

....makes me sad.


I can rip krac-poe's argument apart in quite a few ways....but it really doesn't seem worth the trouble.


As for the topic....
Wel, Sonya's design actually has surprised me. Pretty much every character shown thus far has either been boring (Mileena, Johnny Cage, Nightwolf) or stupid (Kitana, Scorpion).
I was really expecting Sonya to fall under the "boring" category...because she's always looked boring. Blonde, belly-shirt, pants; the end.

But they pulled the swerve on me by trading the belly-shirt for...a vest. Just a vest...nothing underneath. Way to go.
I guess she lost her shirt on the way to the choppa.
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krac_poe
11/20/2010 06:02 PM (UTC)
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It's funny that I am being judged as a sexist for commenting on the quality of writing/character development for the females of MK.

Once again, I DO NOT WRITE FOR MK. Don't blame me.

You seem to be a person of broad perspective, MK Squad. I've entered a debate with a fanboy, I am a fool. And off topic. I apologize.

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11/20/2010 06:02 PM (UTC)
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MKSquad Wrote:
Wow what a dumb yet sexist thing to say and I'm a guy and even that offends me! How are you going to say the females of MK are of no importance to the storyline? Sonya Blade was apart of the forces of light and the original squad that helped protect Earthrealm! Kitana is the princess! Sindel clearly was A MASSIVE part of MK 3 as well as Jade! Mileena is also a very crucial part to the storyline! So clearly your not familiar with the game's story or your just a sexist guy who thinks with the tool between his leg!


You overexaggerate.

Still, they do have bearings on the main plotline, perfect example would be Mileena masquarading as Kitana and giving her armies to Bo Rai Cho to oppose the Dragon King. Jade's story had little bearing, aside once turning on Reptile to allow Kitana to escape Kahn.

All this, most of the time the females have zero activity or are embroilled in their own episodes which have less and less to do with the major issue in each installment. Mostly their importance is in background events (Sindel, Tanya).
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TheWiseFlea
11/20/2010 06:03 PM (UTC)
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@MKSquad

I think it's a catch 22 to accuse someone of sexism, because you are inadvertantly introducing the topic of sexism into a thread that didn't directly allude to it before you did. It's almost as if you are pouring gasoline on a match in order to facilitate a huge flame war fire.

In the grander scheme of things, you could essentially call NRS sexism for over-sexualizing women in their game. If you want to start a flame war about sexism in a franchise that is notorious for scantily clad female models, you've come to the wrong forums.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 06:03 PM (UTC)
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@XiahouDun84 I 100% agree with you I look back now and see it as pointless. But yes I was very skeptical at first to what Sonya's outfit would look like and I'm completely BLOWN AWAY! It's really sexy but it's still overall true to her badass persona!!! lol Or may the wind from the Jet blew it off lol
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11/20/2010 06:04 PM (UTC)
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MKSquad Wrote:
Too late I've already labeled you as a sexist person so therefore it's pointless to try and make me think otherwise,so hey continue to be sexist and enjoy being a tool congrats your what JC's character USE to be lol


...and this is unfogivably stupid from your part. And insulting to yourself too, but I guess you don't want to be preoccupied with that small tangent.
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 06:05 PM (UTC)
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@TheWiseFlea You'll get over it,I'm not here for what you like or don't like. We're all grown enough to know what to say and not to say so if you don't like that then I suggest you go read a book,color in the lines or play in your sandbox no one is going to baby you or put on rose colored glasses or sugar coat the truth and the truth is it was a sexist thing to say and hey that's the way it is sir no more no less.Have a nice dayglasses
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MKSquad
11/20/2010 06:07 PM (UTC)
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@Chrome It's been proven many times that your slighty delusional and a joke on this site so I will NOT give you the time nor day after this statement so please walk up the ladder and proceed to fall off it. Thanx
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