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12/08/2010 08:29 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
MK never had credibility in the Tourney scene to begin with.

Evo contacted NRS. They're crazy interested in MK2011. Justin Wong, arguably the best SSF4 player in the States has high hopes for the new MK. This is the franchise's big chance to make itself a lasting staple in competitive gaming.
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12/08/2010 08:30 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
MK never had credibility in the tourney scene to begin with.


UMK3.



I don't recall UMK3 ever being at EVO.

LucaTurilli Wrote:
Well, accommodating rules for games aren't popular in high end, especially in America.


Smash Bros.
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12/08/2010 08:30 AM (UTC)
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He's not even arguing for the sake of the game. He's arguing for the sake of arguing.
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12/08/2010 08:31 AM (UTC)
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ApathyWolfe Wrote:
Fuck the tournament scene?? well guess what noone gives a shit what you play in your living room..you can stay playing MKDC for all anyone cares..what people care about is playing other people..friends.online and at tournaments and improving their game...this is a step backwards for this game competetively and through tournaments and such exposure is how games become as good and popular as SF..and true it has never been popular in the tournament scene I was hoping this was gonna be the first...but i guess not...


What the hell are you guys on about with these "tournaments"? What tournaments?

I don't play friends. I always game alone.
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12/08/2010 08:32 AM (UTC)
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ApathyWolfe Wrote:
Fuck the tournament scene?? well guess what noone gives a shit what you play in your living room..you can stay playing MKDC for all anyone cares..what people care about is playing other people..friends.online and at tournaments and improving their game...this is a step backwards for this game competetively and through tournaments and such exposure is how games become as good and popular as SF..and true it has never been popular in the tournament scene I was hoping this was gonna be the first...but i guess not...


Kratos can't damage this game in the eyes of the competitive crowd any more than the last 4 games already have.
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12/08/2010 08:32 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
He's not even arguing for the sake of the game. He's arguing for the sake of arguing.


Excuse me for not knowing what tournaments are, and frankly, not caring about them.
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12/08/2010 08:32 AM (UTC)
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Meh, that's cool with me. Kratos is a cool dude, and as long as his inclusion is treated by NRS as a bonus addition and not part of the main content, that's fine (in other words, the game better come as complete roster-wise as if it Kratos were never in it).
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12/08/2010 08:32 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
MK never had credibility in the tourney scene to begin with.


UMK3.



I don't recall UMK3 ever being at EVO.

LucaTurilli Wrote:
Well, accommodating rules for games aren't popular in high end, especially in America.


Smash Bros.


Smash Bros is a joke.

EVO isn't the only high end tournament. There's tons. Ever heard of Seasons Beatings, North Cal Regionals, Socal Regionals, Super Battle Opera?

They all have had UMK3, and they're all just as big as EVO.
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12/08/2010 08:32 AM (UTC)
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This conversation is extremely vaguely related to Kratos in Mortal Kombat, so how about you guys take it to PM.
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ApathyWolfe
12/08/2010 08:33 AM (UTC)
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well have fun playing against the cpu with krados you're a real credit to this community man,,and this tournament scene comprises of people who actually give a shit about the game..unlike you who just posts here to troll people cause you have nothing better to do...
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12/08/2010 08:33 AM (UTC)
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I think it's very strongly related to Kratos. He can strongly effect the tournament scene, which is one of the biggest goals for this game to make it to.
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12/08/2010 08:35 AM (UTC)
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AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
He's not even arguing for the sake of the game. He's arguing for the sake of arguing.


Excuse me for not knowing what tournaments are, and frankly, not caring about them.


You're excused for not caring about the high end goals of this iteration of Mortal Kombat. Now please take your uneducated arguments elsewhere.
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12/08/2010 08:35 AM (UTC)
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ApathyWolfe Wrote:
well have fun playing against the cpu with krados you're a real credit to this community man,,and this tournament scene comprises of people who actually give a shit about the game..unlike you who just posts here to troll people cause you have nothing better to do...


I'm not trolling anyone. I just have an opinion you guys don't like. I'm sorry about that.

I really give a shit about the game, too. I've been playing Mortal Kombat since I was 5 years old and I'm very much looking forward to this game.

I'm not the one bashing it for a special guest character.

*shrug*
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12/08/2010 08:36 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
He's not even arguing for the sake of the game. He's arguing for the sake of arguing.


Excuse me for not knowing what tournaments are, and frankly, not caring about them.


You're excused for not caring about the high end goals of this iteration of Mortal Kombat. Now please take your uneducated arguments elsewhere.


High end goals?

Um, we are talking about a game. I love Mortal Kombat but this isn't life and death.
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12/08/2010 08:37 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ApathyWolfe Wrote:
Fuck the tournament scene?? well guess what noone gives a shit what you play in your living room..you can stay playing MKDC for all anyone cares..what people care about is playing other people..friends.online and at tournaments and improving their game...this is a step backwards for this game competetively and through tournaments and such exposure is how games become as good and popular as SF..and true it has never been popular in the tournament scene I was hoping this was gonna be the first...but i guess not...


Kratos can't damage this game in the eyes of the competitive crowd any more than the last 4 games already have.


exactly MK's reputation is fragile enough as it is...this cross universe bullshit is not gonna help..
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12/08/2010 08:37 AM (UTC)
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He can yes, but we've seen no gameplay footage. We're just an hour or so into Kratos being "confirmed" (yet still not really). I'm not so much concerned with you raising the topic as I am with this back and forth banter. This is a discussion thread for the entire community, not a chat window for two or three people. Try to be a little courteous to everyone and take the unnecessary replies to a personal message.
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12/08/2010 08:37 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
MK never had credibility in the tourney scene to begin with.


UMK3.



I don't recall UMK3 ever being at EVO.

LucaTurilli Wrote:
Well, accommodating rules for games aren't popular in high end, especially in America.


Smash Bros.


Smash Bros is a joke.

EVO isn't the only high end tournament. There's tons. Ever heard of Seasons Beatings, North Cal Regionals, Socal Regionals, Super Battle Opera?

They all have had UMK3, and they're all just as big as EVO.


Well fair enough sir. I was not aware of the tournaments.
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12/08/2010 08:39 AM (UTC)
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AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
ApathyWolfe Wrote:
well have fun playing against the cpu with krados you're a real credit to this community man,,and this tournament scene comprises of people who actually give a shit about the game..unlike you who just posts here to troll people cause you have nothing better to do...


I'm not trolling anyone. I just have an opinion you guys don't like. I'm sorry about that.

I really give a shit about the game, too. I've been playing Mortal Kombat since I was 5 years old and I'm very much looking forward to this game.

I'm not the one bashing it for a special guest character.

*shrug*


I am not bashing Kratos I own a PS3..if i wanted to play as him i could do so and honestly i can tolerate this shit...but I'm urging people to think what this means for this game's goals(as mentioned by Ed Boon) to make it to Evo and such tournaments..
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12/08/2010 08:41 AM (UTC)
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ApathyWolfe Wrote:
AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
ApathyWolfe Wrote:
well have fun playing against the cpu with krados you're a real credit to this community man,,and this tournament scene comprises of people who actually give a shit about the game..unlike you who just posts here to troll people cause you have nothing better to do...


I'm not trolling anyone. I just have an opinion you guys don't like. I'm sorry about that.

I really give a shit about the game, too. I've been playing Mortal Kombat since I was 5 years old and I'm very much looking forward to this game.

I'm not the one bashing it for a special guest character.

*shrug*


I am not bashing Kratos I own a PS3..if i wanted to play as him i could do so and honestly i can tolerate this shit...but I'm urging people to think what this means for this game's goals(as mentioned by Ed Boon) to make it to Evo and such tournaments..


I'm not even defending Kratos. I could take him or leave him. I just don't think its something people should consider not buying the game over.
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12/08/2010 08:41 AM (UTC)
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Listen to me. I'm not trying to insult you, but you have no knowledge of the background of this iteration of Mortal Kombat, or the goals that the developers have in mind. You're not even comprehending the point of my statements. The only thing you can offer to a discussion of what Kratos will bring to Mortal Kombat is money. We all know Kratos will bring in some extra cash, okay?

What can Kratos offer other than cash, some new fans? I guarantee Kratos can not hold a candle to the amount of publicity Mortal Kombat will receive if it is properly represented at high end tournaments.

Kratos goes against the very foundation of this game, which is to revive the old, vintage Mortal Kombat we've grown to love and miss. The game was titled "Mortal Kombat", and that's a huge statement within itself.

There are many negatives to Kratos being in this game, and being exclusive, whether you acknowledge them or not.

But in my sincerest of words, you seriously need to stop speaking about things you don't know about. It makes you look bad, it makes the community look bad.
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12/08/2010 08:45 AM (UTC)
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Anyway, I'm going to bed.

I apologize to anyone who has been offended by anything I've said, bar those who took a shot at me first.

No guests for 360 please. Peace out.
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12/08/2010 08:45 AM (UTC)
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LucaTurilli Wrote:
Listen to me. I'm not trying to insult you, but you have no knowledge of the background of this iteration of Mortal Kombat, or the goals that the developers have in mind. You're not even comprehending the point of my statements. The only thing you can offer to a discussion of what Kratos will bring to Mortal Kombat is money. We all know Kratos will bring in some extra cash, okay?

What can Kratos offer other than cash, some new fans? I guarantee Kratos can not hold a candle to the amount of publicity Mortal Kombat will receive if it is properly represented at high end tournaments.

Kratos goes against the very foundation of this game, which is to revive the old, vintage Mortal Kombat we've grown to love and miss. The game was titled "Mortal Kombat", and that's a huge statement within itself.

There are many negatives to Kratos being in this game, and being exclusive, whether you acknowledge them or not.

But in my sincerest of words, you seriously need to stop speaking about things you don't know about. It makes you look bad, it makes the community look bad.


Get off your high horse. Every post I've made you've tried to nitpick or criticize. You're stuck up and pretentious. It really pisses me off that some people have the nerve to call me a troll when everything you've said to me since I got here is overflowing with disdain.
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12/08/2010 08:51 AM (UTC)
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AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Listen to me. I'm not trying to insult you, but you have no knowledge of the background of this iteration of Mortal Kombat, or the goals that the developers have in mind. You're not even comprehending the point of my statements. The only thing you can offer to a discussion of what Kratos will bring to Mortal Kombat is money. We all know Kratos will bring in some extra cash, okay?

What can Kratos offer other than cash, some new fans? I guarantee Kratos can not hold a candle to the amount of publicity Mortal Kombat will receive if it is properly represented at high end tournaments.

Kratos goes against the very foundation of this game, which is to revive the old, vintage Mortal Kombat we've grown to love and miss. The game was titled "Mortal Kombat", and that's a huge statement within itself.

There are many negatives to Kratos being in this game, and being exclusive, whether you acknowledge them or not.

But in my sincerest of words, you seriously need to stop speaking about things you don't know about. It makes you look bad, it makes the community look bad.


Get off your high horse. Every post I've made you've tried to nitpick or criticize. You're stuck up and pretentious. It really pisses me off that some people have the nerve to call me a troll when everything you've said to me since I got here is overflowing with disdain.


I think the problem is that we both want different things..Luca and I are interested in tournament level play and exposure for this game and obviously you are not..you play..against the cpu or w.e....the point is youre quick to dismiss our points of view simply because you "don't care" about the scene and it makes you looks somewhat ignorant..that being said I agree that this slight insult should not affect wether you buy this game or not..and the gameplay should still be solid..honestly we just expect different things out of this game and i'm sorry if some of these posts sound hostile or that I called you a troll..
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12/08/2010 08:55 AM (UTC)
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So this Kratos guy.... What kind of specials will this Spartan have?
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12/08/2010 08:55 AM (UTC)
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ApathyWolfe Wrote:
AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
LucaTurilli Wrote:
Listen to me. I'm not trying to insult you, but you have no knowledge of the background of this iteration of Mortal Kombat, or the goals that the developers have in mind. You're not even comprehending the point of my statements. The only thing you can offer to a discussion of what Kratos will bring to Mortal Kombat is money. We all know Kratos will bring in some extra cash, okay?

What can Kratos offer other than cash, some new fans? I guarantee Kratos can not hold a candle to the amount of publicity Mortal Kombat will receive if it is properly represented at high end tournaments.

Kratos goes against the very foundation of this game, which is to revive the old, vintage Mortal Kombat we've grown to love and miss. The game was titled "Mortal Kombat", and that's a huge statement within itself.

There are many negatives to Kratos being in this game, and being exclusive, whether you acknowledge them or not.

But in my sincerest of words, you seriously need to stop speaking about things you don't know about. It makes you look bad, it makes the community look bad.


Get off your high horse. Every post I've made you've tried to nitpick or criticize. You're stuck up and pretentious. It really pisses me off that some people have the nerve to call me a troll when everything you've said to me since I got here is overflowing with disdain.


I think the problem is that we both want different things..Luca and I are interested in tournament level play and exposure for this game and obviously you are not..you play..against the cpu or w.e....the point is youre quick to dismiss our points of view simply because you "don't care" about the scene and it makes you looks somewhat ignorant..that being said I agree that this slight insult should not affect wether you buy this game or not..and the gameplay should still be solid..honestly we just expect different things out of this game and i'm sorry if some of these posts sound hostile or that I called you a troll..


Like I said I don't even know what tournaments are. I don't see how I could be faulted for not caring about them, in that context. And it's cool.
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