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RazorsEdge701
02/26/2012 03:27 PM (UTC)
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McHotcakes Wrote:
but I'm willing to bet NRS purposely left it ambiguous so they could decide on what they wanted to do with Liu in MK10.


Pointing the camera right at his non-moving chest for an extended shot is not ambiguous.
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kamikaze-dragon1
02/27/2012 04:16 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Don't post vague thread titles, it's really annoying. I'm going to have to edit it, and because I have no clue what you're even talking about, I imagine it'll be fairly inaccurate.


I apologize.
I just like vague titles...
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IceDragon248
02/29/2012 09:23 PM (UTC)
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Would be cool if Kang became a villain. After surviving he is left horribly scared and wants to avenge his friends by killing Raiden. Have him join Shinnok because of their common goal of stopping Raiden. It would be a nice twist imo.
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MortalMushroom
02/29/2012 10:56 PM (UTC)
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I wouldn't want him to be a villan. I think I'd rather see him really be dead than join Shinnok; Just because he's not on Raiden's side doesn't mean he wants his own realm invaded. Besides, he lost faith in Raiden because Raiden went to the NetherRealm to bargain with Quan Chi (Shinnok's assistant at the time).

I think Liu Kang should still fight for his realm, but not alongside Raiden. Maybe he could even form his own forces with different values then Raiden; maybe Raiden will protect EarthRealm at all costs while Liu Kang will refuse to side with the bad guys (which Raiden apparently has no problem with) even if he has a slim chance of winning without help. So basically Raiden would be saying "I'd rather go against my beliefs to save my realm." and Liu Kang would say "I'd rather go down while staying true to my beliefs then side with the enemy." Liu Kang seems like he's a strong enough character in this game to lead his own group, it's not like Shaolin Monks where he did nothing but what Raiden says.
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Icebaby
02/29/2012 11:14 PM (UTC)
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johnny1up Wrote:
I wouldn't want him to be a villan. I think I'd rather see him really be dead than join Shinnok; Just because he's not on Raiden's side doesn't mean he wants his own realm invaded. Besides, he lost faith in Raiden because Raiden went to the NetherRealm to bargain with Quan Chi (Shinnok's assistant at the time).

I think Liu Kang should still fight for his realm, but not alongside Raiden. Maybe he could even form his own forces with different values then Raiden; maybe Raiden will protect EarthRealm at all costs while Liu Kang will refuse to side with the bad guys (which Raiden apparently has no problem with) even if he has a slim chance of winning without help. So basically Raiden would be saying "I'd rather go against my beliefs to save my realm." and Liu Kang would say "I'd rather go down while staying true to my beliefs then side with the enemy." Liu Kang seems like he's a strong enough character in this game to lead his own group, it's not like Shaolin Monks where he did nothing but what Raiden says.


I can see that happening.

Although, a nice little fight between Liu and Raiden wouldn't hurt, but neither would kill the other. It's like, Liu succeeds in defeating Raiden and has the chance to either kill him or let him be. He let's him be, but basically claims to Raiden something like, "I no longer look up to you." Or some nifty little one liner. Basically letting him know that Raiden fucked up big time and needs to literally, gain the trust back within the people that he lost...

Or something like that.
Take that one step further Ice. What IF The Elder Gods seeing how misreably Raiden failed decide his worthiness of Earthrealm protector AND his worth as a God is questionable. Thus Liu Kang challenges him and wins becoming the new Godly Earthrealm protector than that would also tie into Liu's MK9 solo ending
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RazorsEdge701
03/02/2012 01:39 PM (UTC)
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The problem with pitting Raiden against Liu Kang over who's more worthy to protect the Earth is...one of them has to be wrong, somebody has to be "the bad guy".

But here's the thing:

Sure, we can all see Raiden is potentially unfit because he panicked and got desperate in the face of a crisis, got almost every single one of his allies killed, was willing to trade souls to the rulers of Hell, and for all we know could continue spiraling into madness and become Dark Raiden again.

Liu Kang, on the other hand...how do we know he'd be any better now, after what's happened to him? He's coming from a mentally unhealthy place now. He's driven by bitterness and disillusionment, and being dead and let's not forget being "rewarded" for all his heroism with his soul probably undeservedly going to Hell like all his friends did and who knows how he'll feel about that and what'll happen in the next game. Shang's MK9 ending suggested he'd go mad with power if he did overthrow Raiden and become a god.

Maybe so much damage has been done to both of them by MK9 that neither is sane enough to protect Earthrealm.
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Zmoke
03/02/2012 02:26 PM (UTC)
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IceDragon248 Wrote:
Would be cool if Kang became a villain. After surviving he is left horribly scared and wants to avenge his friends by killing Raiden. Have him join Shinnok because of their common goal of stopping Raiden. It would be a nice twist imo.

Liu Kang in the style of Devil Jin?
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kamikaze-dragon1
03/02/2012 09:24 PM (UTC)
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Liu should come back as a ninja...
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Noobsmoke92
03/03/2012 08:45 AM (UTC)
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kamikaze-dragon1 Wrote:
Liu should come back as a ninja...


...not.
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MortalMushroom
03/06/2012 09:06 PM (UTC)
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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
kamikaze-dragon1 Wrote:
Liu should come back as a ninja...


...not.


But maybe he could have bandegas wrapped around his body like a mummy. Maybe he could actually be a mummy if he's actually dead because come on, zombies are so 2008.

The story could go like this; Raiden feels bad for killing Liu Kang so he has him mummified so he's more well preserved (seeing the vision of the half-rotted walking corpse he resurrected in MK Deception). Then Raiden offers the souls of Johnny Cage, Sonya, and himself to Quan Chi if they die for Liu Kang's soul back (if Quan Chi even has Liu Kang's soul). Then he goes through the same process as MK Deception.

And if they ever need to reboot the story again, there's still a chance that we can see skeleton Liu Kang, wraith Liu Kang, Revenant Liu Kang (although we've alread got Noob for that), and possibly even vampire Liu Kang.
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Immortal_Kanji
03/06/2012 10:25 PM (UTC)
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Liu is out cold. So I bet he'll be waken up again, but being manipulated by false memories. He should be scarred and wears a cloak.

There's no way I want Liu undead again.
I don't necessarily think Liu turning on Raiden would make him a villain. An anti-hero perhaps but let's be honest. Raiden REALLY screwed the pooch this time, and god or not he probably has to answer for that. I'm sure The Elder Gods may put him on trial or at least relieve him of his duty.
I personally would LIKE to see Liu resurrected in some way and make Raiden answer for his screw ups. As far as I can tell The Elder Gods or Fujin COULD bring Liu back by turning him into a god. Bo Rai Cho could also play a vital role in Liu's awakening. As we saw in Liu's arcade mode ending he does become a god, and I for one would LOVE to see what that version of Liu Kang could do.

I know this is very far fetched but it is canon that Liu Kang was adopted by the Shaolin as an orphan right? An orphan from where though?Nobody ever mentioned that hmmm? He may have been raised as an Earthrealmer but who's to say he wasn't BORN in Edenia?Depending upon IF he was born when Sindel was still alive prior to Shao Khan's invasion what if she found out or forsaw that Liu had a special destiny and used her sorcery to send him to Earthrealm in what would be Edenia's far off future to live and age as an Earthrealm human with no memory of his Edenian past? In which case he would have that god-tainted blood which could lead to a rebirth as a god.And it would explain his enhanced fighting and superhuman abilities as well as his natural attraction to Kitana. Maybe Sindel knew of her daughter and Liu's destiny.
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Ninja_Mime
03/11/2012 07:20 PM (UTC)
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Dying and becoming a zombie was the best thing to happen to Liu Kang. I'd really rather not see Liu Kang at all anymore, but if he must return it should be something as drastically different as before. The game doesn't need such a generic hero when there are many other possible "leads" who could be far more interesting.

Was he ever actually anyone's favourite character?
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Icebaby
03/11/2012 07:51 PM (UTC)
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Liu was never a favorite of mine. Not because he's somewhat a very bland character, but I just thought he was getting very annoying of being the champion of every game, and Deception couldn't have made him more of an annoyance than before.

I would prefer if the next game, that is if he really does show in the next game, will be his last for a while and give someone else a chance.

Despite that I never liked him as well, Boon said himself that Shujinko was the next one in line, so where's his rise? Even though, I kinda don't want that.
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MortalMushroom
03/11/2012 11:54 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:

Was he ever actually anyone's favourite character?


He was always my favorite character; well at least since I got into the story and started playing as him.

I didn't really like zombie Liu Kang (although it didn't completely kill it for me), but I think spirit Liu was pretty cool.

I liked him because he was a normal mortal human (sure, he can control fire, but that's just part of the game), which is actually pretty rare in Mortal Kombat, I mean now even Johnny Cage is a decendant of some freaky super-powered warriors for the gods.

And he was really the only character who wanted to win just because it was the right thing to do; most of the other characters were just there for their own personal reasons.

I do think he was the perfect hero, but it seems like he's never had a chance to do anything else; If he's not fighting the big boss, he's dying and becoming a mindless slave. Now they can give Liu Kang a chance to not be the main character and there can be a new protagonist. Considering what happened, I could see a living Liu Kang in the next game without being the central character again.
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Immortal_Kanji
03/12/2012 03:11 AM (UTC)
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Either Johnny or Kai can be the new protagonist, but Liu is stayin' alive.

Kai deserves to be the next champion of MK. Johnny can help him out especially trying to get Liu to come back to their side, even though Liu still cares but needs to be at his distance.
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Icebaby
03/12/2012 04:09 PM (UTC)
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Why should Kai suddenly jump into the main spotlight when you have Cage supposedly being this great warrior even though he doesn't know it yet and could most likely build something great off of that for the next story?

This game pretty much made me appreciate Cage more than I used to because of the attention they brought onto him, and just because Kai seemed like he was going to be the "next" Liu Kang, they should just drop the focus they had on Cage and give it to him? He was gone after MK4 and didn't return until Armageddon, shows how much we really need to appreciate Kai a lot.

That would be utterly stupid on the writer's part if they suddenly just drop this whole Cage thing and focused more on a character that wasn't so great during the previous timeline. Because if Kai was great, he would have been in Deadly Alliance, having some critical part to play in the story, but no. We get nothing from him and won't be until Armageddon, and even then, he didn't do anything.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
03/12/2012 04:16 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Why should Kai suddenly jump into the main spotlight when you have Cage supposedly being this great warrior even though he doesn't know it yet and could most likely build something great off of that for the next story?

This game pretty much made me appreciate Cage more than I used to because of the attention they brought onto him, and just because Kai seemed like he was going to be the "next" Liu Kang, they should just drop the focus they had on Cage and give it to him? He was gone after MK4 and didn't return until Armageddon, shows how much we really need to appreciate Kai a lot.

That would be utterly stupid on the writer's part if they suddenly just drop this whole Cage thing and focused more on a character that wasn't so great during the previous timeline. Because if Kai was great, he would have been in Deadly Alliance, having some critical part to play in the story, but no. We get nothing from him and won't be until Armageddon, and even then, he didn't do anything.


I think JC will play a huge role in MK10. No doubt about that. But I feel like Kai should be very important as well. Kai is a bit indecisive about what he wants to do. But hopefully in MK10 he will finally make up his mind and play a more promnient role in future MK games.
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Tazer_Gunshot
03/26/2012 02:18 AM (UTC)
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The thing that I would like to see happen is what we saw in his or Shang's MK 2011 ending. Liu and Shang reverses their roles. This would be seriously extatic.
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DistraughtOverlord
03/28/2012 01:38 AM (UTC)
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I would really like to see liu become a bad guy. As for now, i really think he's dead. Something will be done to bring him back zombie or not. Now, for whenever he comes back. Trying to avenge his own death, and his comrades death could be interesting.
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