I meant Scorpion won't kill older Zero ?

Oh. Well MK9 is all about Raiden screwing history up, so he might save Older Subby from dying this time, sure. Obviously, we just don't know yet.

Scorpion is neutral.

That being said, I can't see him making any alliances.

retconned.

Are you fucking with me? I just proved that it wasn't. Watch, I will quote word-for-word:
MK2 - "I have entered Shao Kahn's tournament seeking to destroy Sub-Zero... but something happened. I have witnessed Sub-Zero spare his opponent's life. This can not be the same Lin-Kuei who ruthlessly murdered me so many years ago.
My shame for exacting my revenge compels me to watch over this new Sub-Zero in hopes he does not follow the path of his older brother."
MK3 - "I have escaped damnation. However, I have been approached by Shao Kahn to aide in the destruction of the Chosen Warriors from Earthrealm.
When I discovered Sub-Zero was among these warriors I defied my agreement with Shao Kahn. Even if it means giving up my new freedom, I gladly return to the depths of hell to keep my vow."
MK4 - "Sub-Zero was not the killer I have made him out to be. I have been deceived by the sorcerer Quan Chi. In his attempt to cast me to the Netherrealm I was able to pull him with me."
Those blogs written from Scorpion's perspective were released by Midway in 2006 to promote Armageddon. They prove that Scorpion DID make peace with the younger Sub-Zero and didn't go after him again until two games later because Quan Chi lied to him in MK4 and not before.
You can't just ignore concrete evidence. Unless of course you're trolling on purpose.

But will Scorpion be after older Zero if he knows that Quan is responsible for the death of his family or even better: he prevents the death of his family with that time travelling shit and we see his kid in the next MK.

As far as we know, Raiden will be the only character in MK9 who knows the future, so Scorpion won't have any idea Quan Chi is the one who killed his family. He'll just be out to get his original revenge on Older Sub-Zero again.
Besides, Scorp wasn't just out to avenge his clan and family, he was out to avenge himSELF too. And Older Sub-Zero really did do that. So that particular target is justified.

Go to MK warehouse they have scans and movies of ever game in series.. to help you get a better undertsanding of the series history

MK Warehouse only has bios and endings.

To know the story as well as someone like me, you also need to read the full backstory to Mythologies, play all the Konquest modes (and talk to EVERY damn NPC in Deception's, including looking up what the ones who talk backwards are really saying), and read the text on every picture in the Krypts, lol.
As an alternative to all that work though, Wikipedia isn't actually all that bad. Just make sure you don't take it word for word, and double-check with someone here like myself.

And just to say if there is a rivalry between the two its going to be epic

I've done all of this too. That said, I can recognize a retcon when it happens. There's a saying on a lot of comic book boards; if something isn't mentioned it's retconned.

In an issue of Avengers, Kang the conqueror blew up washington D.C.; this happened really close to 9-11 so marvel chose to disregard the story afterwards out of respect. They never came out and said "This never happened" but it was never referenced again...Whenever Kang showed up, no one mentioned how he was the man who killed the entire population of the capital of the world's most powerful country; the lack of mention rendered this story arc irrelevant, and it's gradually been taken out of continuity.

Scorpion made no mention of his oath to guard sub-zero in their MK4 meetings. He also seemed to have little to be oblivious to the fact that he was dealing with a new Sub-Zero. there was also no mention in any of their bios or Konquest texts in MKDA-A. Nor has their been any evidence that Scorpion is aware that there are multiple Sub-Zeros; in fact, Scorpion fought beside Noob Saibot without incident in MK4.

As for the myspace bios, are you serious...Unless you believe Scorpion, an undead Japanese ninja listens to heavy metal, those are non-canon.

Nobody has ever said that on any comic book board I go to. That attitude is wrong and goddamned irresponsible. The only time something is retconned in a comic is when it's contradicted by a newer story.
And not only has Scorpion's MK2 and 3 story NOT ever been contradicted, Midway flat out said it's still canon. You don't get to pick and choose where you THINK there's been a retcon when you have zero actual proof. This isn't like that Kang story at all. This is more like saying "Cap and Iron Man hated each other in Civil War, that erases every story where they were friends before!" It's ridiculous and makes no sense.
Now, if you WANT to be wrong, fine, I can't force you to be logical. But how dare you post lies here for other people to read when I'm trying to teach them the storyline, answer their questions, and clear up their confusions. That's what really pisses me off. I try to be helpful and teach others the canon all the time, and then someone like you always comes along and tells them incorrect information, and just makes them more confused.
And just for the record, Scorpion didn't mention the difference between the two Sub-Zeroes in MK4 because it wasn't relevant to anything. He thought he had a legitimate beef with the younger one for a change because of Quan Chi's lies so why would he bother chatting about the other brother? And almost nobody knows Noob is the Elder Sub-Zero. His own brother didn't find out until Deception. So of course Scorpion wouldn't have minded working with him back then, he hasn't found out who he was yet.

besides saying you got caged to the other guy lol i put some proof here

You need a PhD to know this game... Thank God there is Razor

Sweet levitating baby Jesus why do people keep saying that?

It's been proven time and time again that his name is still Noob Saibot, and Tobias' leaving had nothing to do with the character at all.

You want a source? Try the games themselves where they still reference him as such!

Because Noob Saibot was the last names of Ed Boon and John Tobias. Boon Tobias is Noob Saibot backwards. John left the MK awhile back but still has contact boon every couple of days. Boon decided since John left they just name Noob Saibot Noob, since Tobias left.

And you say how has it has been proven its still Noob Saibot? and to check the games themselves?

It not Noob Saibot anymore. Want proof?

Here we go:
Noob Saibot was once the original Sub-Zero. The Sub-Zero found in the original Mortal Kombat and Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero. Noob Saibot made his first appearance in Mortal Kombat 2. The only way to fight him is by winning 25 consecutive times in the Sega Genesis version, 50 consecutive in the others.
The first time Noob is available to play as isn't until Mortal Kombat Trilogy. After his appearance in Trilogy he's playable in Mortal Kombat Gold the Mortal Kombat 4 remake for the Sega Dreamcast.
Later he is available in Mortal Kombat Deception as a unique combo character called "Noob/Smoke"; hitting the stance change button while playing as Noob/Smoke switches between the characters. Noob and Smoke met when Noob discovered Smokes broken cyborg shell in Shao Kahn's torture chambers. Noobs most recent appearance is in Mortal Kombat Armageddon.

Noob's name comes from the co-creators of Mortal Kombat Ed Boon and John Tobias whose last names spelled backwards give you Noob Saibot. After Tobias left Midway, the games began referring to the character simply as "Noob".

The release date for MK4 was July 1, 1998
The release date for MK Tournament Edition for GBA ONLY was 08/27/03
For MKD, it was 10/4/2004
And finally the realse date for MKA was October 09, 2006.
The release date for MKA was October 09, 2006.

So what does this all mean, you say?

Noob Saibot made his first apperance in MK2 which was around the date of 1994 of August 2nd. (playstation version) at that time, Ed and Tobias have both worked together giving the name NOOB SAIBOT. Noob Saibot was orginal name all the way up to about 2003-2004, because at time, John Tobias left. Ed created MKD created in 10/4/2004, which mean with John leaving, there could be no Noob Saibot. Just Noob. Then joining with smoke making him Noob-Smoke. In MKA Tobias wasnt there either,( but did help somewhat) so Ed decide once again to make Noob Saibot just Noob again.

Please don't make a false accusations unless you have proof to go back on.

Check and Mate!

Why do some people find MK's storyline so confusing? I mean the bios are all right there.Even MKOnline provides bios from past MK games. Its long but not complex. The storylines in MK1, Mk2, ,MK3, and MK4 are perfect.

The endings have always been "what if", until the next MK roles out , then at that point the MK team may take bits and parts and incorpate some of it into the storyline or character bios.

Ashrah's Deception bio.

And her ending:
Noob Saibot was not originally a demon, which might explain why Ashrah sensed such great evil in him: He had to earn his place in the Netherrealm. He actually desired to remain there. His companion, however, seemed to be having a problem adjusting. Perhaps there was some good left in the cyborg. Whatever the case, Noob would have to face Ashrah alone. Ashrah defeated Noob Saibot and finally earned her ascension from the Netherrealm. But the sword that made her escape possible did not travel with her. I suspect it still remains in the Netherrealm, waiting to release another of its denizens from damnation.


Noob-Smoke's Deception bio.

And ending:
With Smoke as his template, Noob Saibot planned to return to the Netherrealm and use Smoke's nanotechnology to create an army of cyborg demons. He was unaware that they were followed by someone Noob had not seen since before he became a wraith. Smoke instantly recognized their visitor. He was an echo of their past. He was Sub-Zero, Noob Saibot's brother. Noob Saibot was surprised to see how much stronger his brother had become. If he were still Lin Kuei, still human, he would probably have shown some degree of pride. But, as Raiden had revealed during the ordeal with Shinnok's Amulet, his soul had been tainted when he died at the hand of Scorpion. Noob Saibot, the original Sub-Zero, had descended into the Netherrealm free from compassion. He ordered Smoke to assist him in slaying his brother - his first act as ruler of the Netherrealm.


And Noob's Armageddon ending:
With a flash, Blaze was defeated, and Noob Saibot found he was no longer standing atop the ancient pyramid, but in the center of a darkened arena. From the shadows, a figure slowly emerged. It was Sub-Zero, the warrior Noob had been before being slain by Scorpion. Sub-Zero had come to regain control of their divided soul. The two clashed, but neither could best the other. In the end, what emerged was a being that was neither Noob Saibot nor Sub-Zero, but something new....


Note how many times he's still referred to as Noob Saibot.

Ah...good points indeed. I forgot to check MKD bios, thank you. But then my question is this? why do the still refer to him as noob then?

Look, this is really, really simple:

In Deception, he was tag-teamed with Smoke, right?

Well "Noob Saibot and Smoke" is too long, it'd look awkward in the lifebar or possibly not even fit. So they shortened their names to "Noob-Smoke".

In Armageddon, they were lazy with the programming. So when they separated Noob and Smoke, they did not recode or re-record Noob's name to have a Saibot on the end because that would've taken time.

It's sorta the same reason lifebars say just "Cage" in some games and his full name in others.

Just because they don't say his last name doesn't mean he doesn't fucking have one anymore, that'd just be retarded. His full name is still clearly stated in other places in the games.

actualy kung lao gave sub zero the scar remeber in shoulin monks...

That game was not canon, though, so it can be ignored as an origin for the scar.
Anyway, this thread was finished a while ago, so I'm going to close it now before someone tries to revive it again with off-topic discussion.