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posted11/11/2010 02:53 AM (UTC)by
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Dragonkeeper1982
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08/25/2010 07:56 PM (UTC)
If you could only pick one Shokan to be playable in this game, who would you pick and how would you like them to play as? In my opinion, Sheeva is in serious need of some new moves if she returns, because she is just a toned-down female version of Goro/Kintaro. I'd like to see Goro and Motoro as a sub-bosses that are not playable, and Kintaro I could care less about. As for one being playable, I think Sheeva should return but be revamped and a lot quicker than her brother and a lot smaller in comparison to Goro, giving her a non-boss feel. In MK3 she seemed like a sub-boss, that could keep teleport stomping which needs to be fixed for online play. Overall, I want to see her Skin Rip Fatality Revamped, I think it could be the best one in the game, if done right!!!!!!!

Here's a possible movelist for her including super versions of each:

Spark Fireball - Shadow Spark (the shadow after the fireball does multiple hits
Teleport Stomp - Shadow Stampede (stomps more violently)
Ground Stomp - Jumping Jacks (juggles opponent with multiple stomps)
Cartwheel Kick - Pinwheel Attack (multiple hits with her multiple limbs)
Whirlwind Toss - Whirlwind Toss Upward (sets up for a good air juggle)
Lariat Lounge Attack - Diving Lariat Helicopter
X-Ray - She Grabs opponent similar to Goro and multiple punches them in stomach then jaw, tosses them up in the air and multiple-teleport stomps on their stomach showing damage to it
Fatality 1 - Hammer Into Ground and Teleport Stomp Smashes Head
Fatality 2 - Karate Chops Torso In Half and slams both halves down shaking the screen
Fatality 3/3D - Skin Ripper - Each of her arms rips off a portion of skin and it's a lot slower and realistic than MK3
Hari-Kari - She rips her own torso off
Animality - Octopus Tenticle Mutilation
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Milaana
11/09/2010 04:40 PM (UTC)
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I would gladly destroy every sign of Goro in the game, give Kintaro more credit.

Goro is such bleh! His name sounds like puke, his appearance is plain and simple and Kintaro is better in every single way.

I would give Sheeva (the playable shokan) more special moves and give her a new thema, maybe something with destruction, as she is called after the goddess of destruction.
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baraka17
11/09/2010 06:40 PM (UTC)
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Im pretty certain Sheeva is not Goro's brother.
But anyway, I agree with the previous post in that Kintaro should be given more of a limelight. He is more bad-ass than Goro in every way, and including him would have no quams with the story. Perhaps give him more of an animalistic fighting stance and move -set ( Fights on 4 limbs, uses his teeth more), and I think he could be one of the most impressive characters in the game.smile

I personally dont give a shit about Sheeva.
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RazorsEdge701
11/09/2010 06:45 PM (UTC)
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Canonically, Goro and Sheeva have never been related. People used to speculate when MK3 first came out that maybe she was one of his wives, because according to his MK1 bio, he has a harem of 7 of 'em. But Boon and Tobias confirmed they're not connected in any way other than being the same species. Neither of them are related to Kintaro either.
Razor had a good idea in that maybe Kintaro could be the boss of MK2 events while Shao Khan is busy with his Earthrealm invasion/Resurrecting Sindel. I think that could work. The magical clone thing felt like such a cop-out anyway. And of course I'd pick Sheeva. Goro and Kintaro are better as powerful sub-boss characters.
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Milaana
11/09/2010 06:54 PM (UTC)
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I always thought that Kintaro was another sub-species of shokan, or magically altered by Shang Tsung.

If its not done before they could do it this time around tho, because Kintaro's story is kinda short and vague, they can copy and paste a lot with his storyline in this new MK game, goro had his chance already, I hope they kill him off in the beginning movie so that only Kintaro will be in the game, Goro and Kintaro look too much alike to be both in the game as sub-bosses.
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RazorsEdge701
11/09/2010 07:12 PM (UTC)
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Milaana Wrote:
I always thought that Kintaro was another sub-species of shokan, or magically altered by Shang Tsung.


I'm pretty sure "brown with green spots" and "tiger striped" are just their ethnicities. Humans come in all different colors, why not Shokans? Maybe they have more we haven't even seen yet.
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11/09/2010 07:26 PM (UTC)
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Come to think of it, the shokan are pretty close to cat breeds. Goro is to as Kintaro is to.

Goro’s a furless Shokan lol.
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GreenJester7
11/09/2010 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Never understood why people want NRS wasting their precious time putting characters in the game and not even be able to play as them, but whatever I guess.

I'd love to see Goro and Sheeva back, at least through DLC. Kintaro I could care less about. He always felt like a lamer Goro to me. Maybe if they retconned back into his original design of being a humanoid tiger instead of just tiger-stripe Goro I'd find him more interesting.
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11/09/2010 08:25 PM (UTC)
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Why do people like Kintaro? He looks like a damn big 4 armed kitten.

Goro is nostalgic. He is big, he is mean, he is bad ass and you had to jump kick the shit out of him to win. Kintaro is the rip-off. Goro is the OG. Now if characters die and stay dead and Goro gets killed I won't mind seeing Sheeva or kintaro take his place.
Is it so wrong to hope for all 3 shokans and Motaro to be in this game?smile
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Milaana
11/09/2010 08:30 PM (UTC)
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Kintaro is from 1993, why wouldn't he be nostalgic, and besides MK2 was much better than MK1 in many reviews of that time and also in my personal book.

Kintaro was actually scary to fight, he was much more difficult than that easy joke Goro. I remember playing MKII for the second-or-so time and finally reaching Kintaro... that was a very scary fight!

Tigers are scary, think about the Rakshasa from Dungeons and dragons, they aren't kittens.
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11/09/2010 08:38 PM (UTC)
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It would be cool to see all Shokans return since we go back to the era of MK1-3. However, if I had to pick one I would say Goro by far. He is the most relevant shokan storywise. Not to mention he is badass.

The only thing I never liked about the Goro/Kintaro thing is that in MK2 it is stated that Kintaro is superior to Goro. This makes no sence to me as Goro is the prince of all Shokans and should have been the strongest among the Shokans by default.

And I would gladly see Sheeva return. Not sure why so many people dislike her. I prefer her over Jade and Sonya anyday.
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MortalMushroom
11/09/2010 08:42 PM (UTC)
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Would if the sub-boss wasn't even a shokan, maybe it'll be the monster in the background. I do wanna see Goro or Kintaro, but I also want to fight that monster.
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11/09/2010 10:54 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Milaana Wrote:
I always thought that Kintaro was another sub-species of shokan, or magically altered by Shang Tsung.


I'm pretty sure "brown with green spots" and "tiger striped" are just their ethnicities. Humans come in all different colors, why not Shokans? Maybe they have more we haven't even seen yet.


Agreed. His MKA card mentions he is a member of the Shokan race like Goro, but he is descends from a unique lineage.
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Onaga
11/09/2010 11:22 PM (UTC)
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Playable: Sheeva.
Keep Goro as a boss.
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Linkdarkside
11/09/2010 11:48 PM (UTC)
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both Sheeva and Goro should be playable if two handed people use different moves so can a four ams.
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11/10/2010 12:04 AM (UTC)
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I like them all for this game. But for different reasons.

Sheeva - A great chance to make her a loved character. She has potential
Goro - Memories and MK just wouldnt be MK without Goro
Kintaro - Easily my favourate.

I always looked at it like this (which I know is kinda wacked but I cant help it)

MK1 we had shang and his buddy goro. So in MK2, we get Shangs superior Kahna nd to my perception at least, goro's superior Kintaro.

canon story may not agree. But ive always thought Kintaro would beat goro's ass in a fight.

If I had to pick one, Id say Goro. Just because it fits right. Id LOVE to see Motaro as an unpalyabel sub-boss in the MK3 portion. They were gonna try and do him in MKA but couldnt get the mechanics right, combined with time restraints. Or so I heard.

I wouldnt be upset if he was excluded, But it would be something really special if he was there.
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11/10/2010 01:07 AM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
I like them all for this game. But for different reasons.

Sheeva - A great chance to make her a loved character. She has potential
Goro - Memories and MK just wouldnt be MK without Goro
Kintaro - Easily my favourate.

I always looked at it like this (which I know is kinda wacked but I cant help it)

MK1 we had shang and his buddy goro. So in MK2, we get Shangs superior Kahna nd to my perception at least, goro's superior Kintaro.

canon story may not agree. But ive always thought Kintaro would beat goro's ass in a fight.

If I had to pick one, Id say Goro. Just because it fits right. Id LOVE to see Motaro as an unpalyabel sub-boss in the MK3 portion. They were gonna try and do him in MKA but couldnt get the mechanics right, combined with time restraints. Or so I heard.

I wouldnt be upset if he was excluded, But it would be something really special if he was there.


Pretty much what I was thinking. Goro may be a prince, but does that necessarily make him the strongest? It always seemed to me that Kintaro was more mature and battle-hardened than Goro. I mean, in MKSM you fought Goro, then you went and did a bunch more stuff, and then you faced Kintaro right before Shao Kahn. Kinda makes it seem like he's higher up in rank ya'know? And then there's Sheeva...

So maybe have Sheeva as a playable character, and then have either Goro or Kintaro randomly switch as first sub-bosses on the ladder. And then Motaro as the main sub-boss. I gotta love Motaro, even though thay kinda butchered him in MKA. furious
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11/10/2010 11:06 PM (UTC)
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Sheeva is a must have, since she's awesome.

Shokans are the best part about MK imho. Too bad they get such little gametime. This should really be remedied. Goro or Kintaro could be made playable... I mean SF has giants too and they aren't broken(just lame). MK's giants AREN'T lame and have a lot of potential!



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11/11/2010 02:45 AM (UTC)
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If Goro is playable, he should maintain his regular moveset, be deceptively fast, all that. Balanced by taking more damage than everybody else.

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11/11/2010 02:53 AM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
I like them all for this game. But for different reasons.

Sheeva - A great chance to make her a loved character. She has potential
Goro - Memories and MK just wouldnt be MK without Goro
Kintaro - Easily my favourate.

I always looked at it like this (which I know is kinda wacked but I cant help it)

MK1 we had shang and his buddy goro. So in MK2, we get Shangs superior Kahna nd to my perception at least, goro's superior Kintaro.

canon story may not agree. But ive always thought Kintaro would beat goro's ass in a fight.

If I had to pick one, Id say Goro. Just because it fits right. Id LOVE to see Motaro as an unpalyabel sub-boss in the MK3 portion. They were gonna try and do him in MKA but couldnt get the mechanics right, combined with time restraints. Or so I heard.

I wouldnt be upset if he was excluded, But it would be something really special if he was there.


same here bro Goro all the way i understand why kintaro because hes the favorite.But right now i like to go back old school where you had to fight goro as the sub boss
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