Story Mode Raiden is a dumbass
Story Mode Raiden is a dumbass
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posted04/27/2011 05:28 AM (UTC)byAbout Me
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so he saves Smoke within 10 seconds.....BUT can't save Sub Zero in 29 seconds??????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm accepting almost everything else within this storyline even if it isn't within the real line.....but come on!!!!
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm accepting almost everything else within this storyline even if it isn't within the real line.....but come on!!!!
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Locusta Wrote:
I felt like Sub zero basically had god-back turned to him. Pretty rude.
Raiden didn't think it through, he seemed distracted the whole time. Too removed, as a god should kind of be in this kind of story. Shao Kahn was just trollan anyway
I felt like Sub zero basically had god-back turned to him. Pretty rude.
Raiden didn't think it through, he seemed distracted the whole time. Too removed, as a god should kind of be in this kind of story. Shao Kahn was just trollan anyway
Exactly...I have felt this version of Raiden was the Raiden we have had all along...an inexperienced moron that has NO idea how to BE a god!
I have never liked Raiden and was SO excited (stupidly) to think that Fugin was going to get a chance to take over the role. The way it looks now, Fugin may never even be in the storyline.
Raiden is an idiot.......HOWEVER................to back him up VIA THIS STORY LINE............the visions are a bitch (thanks old/Future Raiden for not saying a FUCKING NAME should WIN...........NNNNOOOO Just say HE MUST WIN........that is SO CLEAR to your earlier self when there was like 5 girls in the tournament..............M O R O N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First Character I would like to see NOT RETURN.............Raiden!
Nah, don't worry man. I'm pretty sure that with Raiden's Shenanigans almost destroying Earth Realm... Fujin may just come along and pull rank on Raiden for the good of the Realm. And as bad as Raiden feels for what happened...I really don't think he'd fight him on the subject. We'll see what happens next game.
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NS922 Wrote:
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
EXACTLY!!!!
Raiden seemed older and INTO the role
Fugin seemed like he KNEW what to do and appreciated it

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You'd think he'd get Fujin and the other possible normal gods to help him out.
and why did subzero not turning cyborg mess up the future? Bi Han has never did anything serious storywise besides teach Frost then freeze her.
and why did subzero not turning cyborg mess up the future? Bi Han has never did anything serious storywise besides teach Frost then freeze her.
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iHeartXenomorphs Wrote:
You'd think he'd get Fujin and the other possible normal gods to help him out.
and why did subzero not turning cyborg mess up the future? Bi Han has never did anything serious storywise besides teach Frost then freeze her.
You'd think he'd get Fujin and the other possible normal gods to help him out.
and why did subzero not turning cyborg mess up the future? Bi Han has never did anything serious storywise besides teach Frost then freeze her.
I played all as human and Cyber in Story
But OMG they are all easier and better as Human
Cyber BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Human Cyrax is awesome and badass and unique, human sektor is gay and is better as a cyborg. Cyrax actually felt Ninja-like when you use him, he had smoke bombs and chemical explosive chi bombs and a chi net and.... I'm really gonna miss him.

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Raiden is definitely a dumbass in this game and this is probably the first game in which I practically hate everything about him.
In the story, he makes many mistakes and has little self-confidence (especially for a God). He gets so desperate and dumb at times that he relies on mortals into telling him what actions to take. And he is supposed to be a God with eons of fuckin wisdom.
One of the most disappointing characters in this game, design-wise and story-wise.
In the story, he makes many mistakes and has little self-confidence (especially for a God). He gets so desperate and dumb at times that he relies on mortals into telling him what actions to take. And he is supposed to be a God with eons of fuckin wisdom.
One of the most disappointing characters in this game, design-wise and story-wise.
NS922 Wrote:
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
Fujin never had to deal with the type of shit Raiden dealt with for thousands of years.
And it's a good thing he didn't. Fujin's not cut out to be the protector of anything. He doesn't know how to deal with mortals.
Then again, neither does Raiden...
WOW! That explains why Shao Kahn won Armageddon!
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Riyakou Wrote:
Fujin never had to deal with the type of shit Raiden dealt with for thousands of years.
And it's a good thing he didn't. Fujin's not cut out to be the protector of anything. He doesn't know how to deal with mortals.
Then again, neither does Raiden...
WOW! That explains why Shao Kahn won Armageddon!
NS922 Wrote:
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
I always saw Raiden as a stubborn fool who thought he was in charge of everything. Fujin always seemed more wise and smooth-like.
Fujin never had to deal with the type of shit Raiden dealt with for thousands of years.
And it's a good thing he didn't. Fujin's not cut out to be the protector of anything. He doesn't know how to deal with mortals.
Then again, neither does Raiden...
WOW! That explains why Shao Kahn won Armageddon!
How do we know Fugin isn't cut out....he was given A game to do his thang before KNOW IT ALL (AND FUCKED IT UP ROYALLY) Raiden took over...........Fugin needs to be given his time...........Raiden needs to be put to bed..............period.
MK needs to LOSE characters for 3+games......let them be dead for a good LONG time...............before your try to bring them back (3rd repeat mister game writer...getting old)
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Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?

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Broken plot devices. This is honestly what the MK story was founded on. The whole point was to get Subby to be a Cyborg. This was the only way they could build some sort of logic to it.


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ermacsdshit Wrote:
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
You know. I actually agree with what youre saying.
Its not like Raiden had a lot to work with. And nobody else was giving him better suggestions.
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ermacsdshit Wrote:
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
Current Raiden...NO..........he is a dumb bitch for not KNOWING any better,...........Raiden overall........who would send a message saying "HE MUST WIN" in an ALMOST ALL MALE COMPETITION............FUCKIN MORON.............Current raiden was destined to fail based on Past Raiden's retarded message.............Raiden GO AWAY....Let Fugin try.
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if you didn't notice raiden didn't have much time to say anything before his head got smashed in the beginning, right after he got done saying his magic words or whatever Kahns hammer was coming down on his head.
I don't think he had time to say, Hey past self gues what! Turns out Shao Kahn end up causing Armageddon and everyone dies, so you should let him merge the realms then the Elder Gods will Kill him, ok gotta go i'm about to die. No his message ended up saving Earth. Everyone who died, died because they sucked
I don't think he had time to say, Hey past self gues what! Turns out Shao Kahn end up causing Armageddon and everyone dies, so you should let him merge the realms then the Elder Gods will Kill him, ok gotta go i'm about to die. No his message ended up saving Earth. Everyone who died, died because they sucked
yep, brilliant idea. raiden should have, in the presence of shao kahn and all his minions, including kitana, baraka, reptile, sektor and cyrax, run up and zapped the cyborgs, hoping against hope that EVERYBODY stood back and let him.
to the OP, frankly, YOU'RE the only dumbass here.
to the OP, frankly, YOU'RE the only dumbass here.
Greenroom Wrote:
so he saves Smoke within 10 seconds.....BUT can't save Sub Zero in 29 seconds??????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm accepting almost everything else within this storyline even if it isn't within the real line.....but come on!!!!
so he saves Smoke within 10 seconds.....BUT can't save Sub Zero in 29 seconds??????????????????????????????????????????
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm accepting almost everything else within this storyline even if it isn't within the real line.....but come on!!!!
Okay, you need to really limit yourself to one punctuation mark per sentence.
ermacsdshit Wrote:
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
Wow! I picked a good day to join. Everyones saying Raidens a dumb ass. How? What did he do? From what I remember all he did was try to figure out how to stop armageddon from a shitty message he must win. The guy doesn't know what the hell that means. But lui kang defeated shang and everyones fine. Then Sub Zero gets turned into a cyborg because he couldn't fight his way out. Subby is a big boy. Why should raiden have to save his ass? Then Kung Lao dies because he's stupid and turnes his back to Kahn and gets his neck snapped, Not Raidens fault. Then Lui Kang defeats Shao Kahn, but the amulet is still broke. Then shao kahn releases outworld on earth, because Lui Kang was retarded and let Shao Kahn be carried away instead of ripping his head off, seems kinda dumb to me. And when raiden asks for the elder gods help because earth sucks and can't handle its own, they say they can't do shit. Then everyone dies because they can't hold there own against Sindel even though it was like 7 against 1. Maybe they should learn to fight and not hope raidens there to save them everytime their in trouble. So with all hope dead for Earth Raiden sucks up his pride and asks Quan Chi for help eventually realising Kahn must win. But hey dumb shit Lui Kang tries to kill the God of Thunder and got what he deserved, a slow painfull death. Seems Lui isn't such a bad ass afterall. Finally Raiden kills Kahn, preventing armageddon. So how is this Raidens Fault?
And you need to stick some paragraphs up in there.
Makin' mah damn eyes hurt.
I was sympathetic to Raiden because you see amd feel his frustration throughout the story mode as events got changed because of his own doing. Raiden himself took full responsibility for all the altercations in the time line such as Sub-Zero's transformation, Kung Lao's death, and such of the like.
I agree with others who mention that Raiden had only so much to work with, all he had were jumbled visions of the future and a message saying "He must win" to connect everything together.
You saw that Raiden reached out to the mortals and had a concern for their well being but as the story progressed and all the different events unfolded you saw Raiden react and take desperate measures especially when the Elder Gods refused to act on Raiden's plea of interferring with Shao Kahn's attempts.
You can't really blame Raiden for what he tried doing because his primary concern was protecting Earth and all the lives in it. He did make a lot of errors when acting on his visions but given the option of having complete and utter armageddon I think anybody in Raiden's situation would choose a different option than that.
I agree with others who mention that Raiden had only so much to work with, all he had were jumbled visions of the future and a message saying "He must win" to connect everything together.
You saw that Raiden reached out to the mortals and had a concern for their well being but as the story progressed and all the different events unfolded you saw Raiden react and take desperate measures especially when the Elder Gods refused to act on Raiden's plea of interferring with Shao Kahn's attempts.
You can't really blame Raiden for what he tried doing because his primary concern was protecting Earth and all the lives in it. He did make a lot of errors when acting on his visions but given the option of having complete and utter armageddon I think anybody in Raiden's situation would choose a different option than that.
I just went through Story mode for the first time. Just finished it.
I threw up a little in my mouth when he went to the Netherealm, tried to make a deal with Quan Chi, and offered up his own warriors' goddamn souls to strike a deal.
Raiden was written extremely poorly in this game.
I threw up a little in my mouth when he went to the Netherealm, tried to make a deal with Quan Chi, and offered up his own warriors' goddamn souls to strike a deal.
Raiden was written extremely poorly in this game.
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