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Dermeister
05/02/2011 02:47 PM (UTC)
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I'm all in for Li Mei in MKDA primary costume.
Her MKD primary could be the alternate.
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breakingdishesz
05/02/2011 03:49 PM (UTC)
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jagro Wrote:
except that li mei is an incredibly bland, generic, terrible character. believe me, she will be very, VERY low on nrs' list of priorities for dlc.


Ermac is all that and still made it in the game.
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05/02/2011 03:51 PM (UTC)
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breakingdishesz Wrote:
jagro Wrote:
except that li mei is an incredibly bland, generic, terrible character. believe me, she will be very, VERY low on nrs' list of priorities for dlc.


Ermac is all that and still made it in the game.

Umm Ermac and Li Mei are equally awesome grin
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05/02/2011 04:04 PM (UTC)
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Stryk-mac Wrote:
breakingdishesz Wrote:
jagro Wrote:
except that li mei is an incredibly bland, generic, terrible character. believe me, she will be very, VERY low on nrs' list of priorities for dlc.


Ermac is all that and still made it in the game.

Umm Ermac and Li Mei are equally awesome grin


Ermac: I'm evil, i work for Shao Kahn blah blah blah... fucking kidding me. He sucks ass.
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05/02/2011 04:06 PM (UTC)
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Stryk-mac Wrote:
breakingdishesz Wrote:
jagro Wrote:
except that li mei is an incredibly bland, generic, terrible character. believe me, she will be very, VERY low on nrs' list of priorities for dlc.


Ermac is all that and still made it in the game.

Umm Ermac and Li Mei are equally awesome grin


ermac has several very significant, defining characteristics:

- he uses telekinetic powers (had them before kenshi, so he's irrelevant)
- he is made of the souls of fallen warriors, fused together. as such, he refers to himself as "we", "our", etc.
- he has a totally unique appearance

see? he's unique, individual and overall a great character. calling ermac bland and/or terrible is a matter of opinion i guess, but "generic"? he certainly isnt.

li mei however, has the following characteristics:

- special moves consisting of a purple projectile and acrobatic kicks and punches.
- generic purple/pink coloured clothes
- a slave who rebelled against the deadly alliance.

li mei is clearly not a good character. she has just about as generic a moveset as is possible, a bland outfit and appearance and an uninteresting storyline. yes, she could be improved. but that would basically require a total overhaul of her entire character in order to make her unique, in which case nrs might as well just make a brand new character. and there are other (many other) characters who arent in this game who would require MUCH less work done to make them unique.

comparing li mei with ermac is just a bit redundant, imo.
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05/02/2011 04:10 PM (UTC)
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I want to see this costume in either MK9 or MK10:


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breakingdishesz
05/02/2011 04:37 PM (UTC)
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Let's see:

Shitmac's storyline: He is evil and works for Shao Kahn... it's been done to death, he's just another Kano/Baraka, and they were created before him so he's irrelevant.
Oh, and he became good in the original storyline... TOO BAD we already saw that (with Sindel). He's just recycled trash.

Shitmac's moves: OK, he had telekinesis BEFORE Kenshi, but in this game he has Kenshi's moves like tele-push. LMAO a fucking joke, not that i ever expected Shitmac to be good though.

Shitmac's look: DEATH @ you thinking Ermac has a unique look. He's just another ninja. A red ninja... like we didn't have enough with FIVE ninjas. All 5 were created before Shitmac, so he's irrelevant.

There you have it... Ermac is just a shitty, bland, generic character all around, and there's a reason as to why he has NEVER been relevant.

At least Li Mei had an interesting twist when she became corrupted by Onaga.
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05/02/2011 05:03 PM (UTC)
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I onlyu said that because they're both in my fav characters, and are awesome to me, my opinion
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05/02/2011 05:06 PM (UTC)
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breakingdishesz Wrote:
Let's see:

Shitmac's storyline: He is evil and works for Shao Kahn... it's been done to death, he's just another Kano/Baraka, and they were created before him so he's irrelevant.


saying somebody is evil doesnt exactly make them generic. mk has always had a kind of straight black/white, good/evil alignment. everybody is either evil or good. the fact that he is many souls fused together, added to his ending from this game which states that his dominant soul is king jerrod, all make his story far more interesting than those of kano or baraka. can shao kahn only have one henchman?

breakingdishesz Wrote:
Oh, and he became good in the original storyline... TOO BAD we already saw that (with Sindel). He's just recycled trash.


again, you're simplifying his story to the extreme just for the sake of comparing him with another character. you can do that with anybody: SHAO KAHN AND SHINNOK ARE BOTH EVIL, SO THEY'RE THE SAME, HERP DERP.

breakingdishesz Wrote:
Shitmac's moves: OK, he had telekinesis BEFORE Kenshi, but in this game he has Kenshi's moves like tele-push. LMAO a fucking joke, not that i ever expected Shitmac to be good though.


ermac has totally unique moves, specials, combos, fatalities, etc, in this game. he is one of the most well-rounded, individual characters in this game. because kenshi isnt in this game yet, it is pointless comparing their moves. kenshi will most likely have a brand new moveset, and dya know why? ermac had telekinesis FIRST, it is HIS defining characteristic, and thus he should have all the best telekinesis moves. kenshi is the one who will have to surrender telekinesis and change his style.

oh and btw, i think many people would agree that in this game, ermac is easily one of the best characters gameplay-wise, has some of the best combos, will almost certainly be high-tier and is one of the coolest characters in story mode.

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Shitmac's look: DEATH @ you thinking Ermac has a unique look. He's just another ninja. A red ninja... like we didn't have enough with FIVE ninjas. All 5 were created before Shitmac, so he's irrelevant.


Observe: a ninja:



and another:



and now let's look at ermac:



yeah, ermac's not a ninja anymore. not in any way, shape or fashion. when i say his look is unique, i actually mean from this game? not from the original, pixelated games when he was a palette swap of the other ninjas. his look was not original THEN , but it quite clearly is NOW. you see?

breakingdishesz Wrote:
There you have it... Ermac is just a shitty, bland, generic character all around, and there's a reason as to why he has NEVER been relevant.


never been relevant, eh? in deception, he single-handedly defeated jax, johnny cage, sonya, kitana AND kung lao, thus freeing them onaga's control. pretty important if you ask me. and that's CANON. without him, there wouldnt have been any of those 5 characters in armageddon.

breakingdishesz Wrote:
At least Li Mei had an interesting twist when she became corrupted by Onaga.


...yep, very interesting. after reading this last part, i can only assume you must be trolling? i'll go along with it anyway.

just read through the deception ending you're referring to, and guess what? it's not even fucking canon. yep, interesting twist. so interesting midway decided to ignore it in the next game.

there's just no point in comparing these two characters. ermac has her well and truly beat in every respect: appearance, story, gameplay, uniqueness.
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05/02/2011 05:10 PM (UTC)
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Midey Wrote:
I want to see this costume in either MK9 or MK10:


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Me too, if shes in they probably will have that one because look at all the other girls, they are all showing alot of skin lol
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05/02/2011 05:13 PM (UTC)
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Oh, shut up people! This topic is named 'The Li Mei Thread' not 'Li Mei is better than Ermac. Let's troll in this topic'...
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05/02/2011 05:18 PM (UTC)
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1. Ermac IS generic though. He doesn't even have own goles or aspirations like Kano does. He's just Shao Kahn's bitch, as shown in story mode. And don't come at me with that "fused souls" shit, everyone have backstories.

2. Funny how you ignored the fact that Shitmac has moves that Kenshi had in MKD and MKA. Unique? yeah right. And there is no way to prove that EVERYONE THINKS ERMAC IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME. I think he's shit just like he was in MKD and the official MK site has Shitmac as one of the least used characters. There you have it.

3. I meant masked, don't play dumb. If you want to go literally, Sub-Zero is not a ninja either so you fail. Ermac is just a fucking generic design and people dig it because they think a ninja (or masked character) is cool, despite him looking retarded and like shit.

4. Ed Boon NEVER confirmed that Ermac freed the earthrealm warrior's souls from Onaga's spell. Stop making stuff up. You either come at me with FACTS not lies and try again or hold it right there.

I just can't at the fact that you say you like Ermac so much yet you don't know shit about him. It was never confirmed that he freed Jax, Kung, Sonya, Kitana and Cage's souls from Onaga's spell, it was just assumed by delusional people who think Ermac is so badass.



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05/02/2011 05:30 PM (UTC)
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breakingdishesz Wrote:
1. Ermac IS generic though. He doesn't even have own goles or aspirations like Kano does. He's just Shao Kahn's bitch, as shown in story mode. And don't come at me with that "fused souls" shit, everyone have backstories.

2. Funny how you ignored the fact that Shitmac has moves that Kenshi had in MKD and MKA. Unique? yeah right. And there is no way to prove that EVERYONE THINKS ERMAC IS ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERS IN THE GAME. I think he's shit just like he was in MKD and the official MK site has Shitmac as one of the least used characters. There you have it.

3. I meant masked, don't play dumb. If you want to go literally, Sub-Zero is not a ninja either so you fail. Ermac is just a fucking generic design and people dig it because they think a ninja (or masked character) is cool, despite him looking retarded and like shit.

4. Ed Boon NEVER confirmed that Ermac freed the earthrealm warrior's souls from Onaga's spell. Stop making stuff up. You either come at me with FACTS not lies and try again or hold it right there.

I just can't at the fact that you say you like Ermac so much yet you don't know shit about him. It was never confirmed that he freed Jax, Kung, Sonya, Kitana and Cage's souls from Onaga's spell, it was just assumed by delusional people who think Ermac is so badass.





1. no he's not. shao kahn is dead, so ermac has his own will now. if you saw his ending in this game, clearly he has his own goals. oh, and li mei doesnt have a backstory, so yeah.

2. every time you call him shitmac you make yourself look like a 9 year old idiot. kenshi isnt in this game, kenshi borrowed his entire moveset off ermac in the first place. ermac had telekinesis first, kenshi was copying HIM.

3. oh i see, so now MASKED characters all look the same? well i guess that's bad news for:

scorpion, reptile, sub-zero, rain, noob, smoke, cyrax, sektor, kabal, mileena, jade, kitana, shao kahn and DRAHMIN, who are all, according to your logic, "generic" characters, because they wear masks.

jeez, COME ON.

and i wasnt playing dumb. i was saying the whilst sub-zero and scorpion retain their "ninja" looks from the original games, ermac doesnt.

4. lies? wtf? that ending is canon. fact. how the hell do you think jax, sonya, etc were all fighting for the forces of light in armageddon? go to the mk wiki, ermac's deception ending is canon. that's the be all and end all of that point.

oh, and trying to insult somebody's intelligence whilst in fact being yourself wrong, again, makes you look like a twat.
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05/02/2011 05:34 PM (UTC)
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jagro Wrote:wiki


*blocked* lmao. I don't have time for this. Go back reading and beliving what wiki says sis.
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05/02/2011 05:38 PM (UTC)
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breakingdishesz Wrote:
jagro Wrote:wiki


*blocked*

lmao. I don't have time for this. Go back reading and beliving what wiki says sis.


okay, let's try another approach.

how do YOU think kung lao, sonya, kitana, jax and johnny were freed from onaga's control? i'd love to hear your wild theories, as opposed to the solid fact as stated in his deception ending.
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05/02/2011 05:39 PM (UTC)
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I liked the idea of Li Mei along with Kenshi and Drahmin because they were extremely unique characters and they fit the tone and atmosphere of Deadly Alliance perfectly. She was actually fun to play as in Deception and Deadly Alliance. i hope she appears in the next game, she's the only Outworld female that is a hero at present (the female Edenians are different).

Her Deception outfit with the armor was my favorite because she actually looked like a seasoned warrior and a deadly one at that. I'd also like to see her main from Deadly Alliance return, that costume was really nice.

I wouldn't mind seeing her flying punches, purple sparkler and her flip kick come back and some new moves added to her skill set.


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05/02/2011 07:11 PM (UTC)
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I made a Li Mei thread a while back with my idea of what she could look like in MK9. If Kenshi is being added to the roster, I don't see it being that far-fetched for Li Mei to be DLC.



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05/02/2011 09:12 PM (UTC)
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I don't know if I want to see Li Mei in Mk9.
After all she was basically the fanservice character back in DA, she never wore enough then. With the way things as they are now, with female costumes, she'd probably be in a purple g-string with tape over her nips.
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05/02/2011 09:19 PM (UTC)
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OMG FUCK Li Mei.She's pointless and stupid and just fuck her.FUCK HER.
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05/02/2011 09:27 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:


Thinking about characters like Li Mei makes me think about all the story potential that was wasted by doing this reboot. I had always imagined that she would go on to become a new staple, along with the likes of Kenshi and Bo' Rai Cho. Oh well.

So yeah, I definitely want more from Li Mei. Maybe put her in a DLC pack with Bo' Rai Cho.

Yeah I'd love to see Bo Rai Cho and Li Mei in the 2D plane... Though we might not get them as DLC because of their lack of popularity, I sure as well hope they make it to the next game...
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05/02/2011 10:22 PM (UTC)
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Why are people so afraid to like characters post MK3? I think she's great! Would love to see her again.
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05/02/2011 10:45 PM (UTC)
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I like almost every one post mk3 :)
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05/03/2011 10:18 AM (UTC)
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I think that Li Mei (or Kira) will appear in Kahn's Colosseum if Skarlet will be chosen.
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05/03/2011 12:20 PM (UTC)
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I wish I could find that one piece of art of her again. It was a concept for her outfit. If I'm not mistaken, she had long black hair, a bandana, her right arm was sleeved, Sais strapped to her legs. Damn, where did I see that one?


But yes, I'd love to see her back as well. smile
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05/03/2011 03:47 PM (UTC)
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Hold off on her until the sequel. We aren't going to get 10+ characters via dlc. So add the ones the fans are asking for first.

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