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mkwhopper
04/11/2011 05:29 AM (UTC)
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Liu Kang fights Ermac, then Kitana (Those are the fighters in the ? marks)
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jbthrash
04/11/2011 05:40 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
Tons of people entered. The playable characters in MK1 are the ones that managed to make it to the finals alive. Kang, Kano, Scorp, Sub, Sonya, and Johnathon kick a bunch of no name ass to get to the finals. Then this happens

Kang beats Goro
Tsung challenges Kang
Tsung sends Goro to kill Cage, Kano and Sonya for some reason
Cage + Sonya + Kano vs. Goro
Kang beats Tsung
Island collapses
Sonya, Kano and Goro fall to their apparent deaths when the Pit collapses. Cage is saved by Raiden
Scorp kills Sub. I don't think this was an official matchup. I think Scorpion just found Sub-Zero on the island and killed him


More or less correct, though you have the Tsung vs. Liu part backwards.

Liu is the one who challenged Shang, because Shang was never actually supposed to compete and at that point, the tournament was already over and there wasn't a damn thing Shang could do about it except be pissed and order Goro and his guards to try and kill everyone out of spite. But Liu wanted a piece of him personally because his whole reason for attending the tournament was to take it away from Shang's control and return the host/grandmaster role to the Shaolin temple.

Anyway, years ago in XD's analysis topic, this topic came up before. And in that thread, I speculated a possible bracket that made sense to me, based on the character dynamics introduced in the series and the MK1 and 2 comics. Obviously, this isn't canon at all, just my own ideas, but it's fun to think about.

Here's what I came up with.

Scorpion and Sub-Zero had to be eliminated before they could face each other, because Scorpion doesn't kill Sub-Zero until after the tournament ends, while the guards are attacking and Liu is fighting Shang.

I thought Kano should beat Sonya to make their rivalry actually worth a damn. Because they fight again in MK3 and Sonya wins that one. It would kinda suck if she got the best of him twice in a row. Plus Sonya's whole reason for fighting in the tournament is if she loses, her men in Shang's dungeon will be executed. Having Kano be the one to cost those men their lives seemed appropriate to me. The alternative is that they never fought during the tournament at all, which is just anticlimactic.

I thought Johnny Cage should face Kano at some point to settle the grudge they started on the boat. I also tend to think of Johnny as being the next best thing to Liu out of the MK1 roster and deserving to make it to the semifinals.

Raiden had to be in there because he did compete, but I wanted him to be fighting solely to test the mortals and find out which one most deserves to be defender of Earth. So I had him fight Sub-Zero, who showed potential to change his ways in Mythologies, but ultimately fails, then he fights Liu and bows out to him because Liu is the guy.

I also think the Mirror Match should be canon 'cause it'd be a neat trick of Shang's magic, the idea that "everyone is their own worst enemy" in some way, and before you can win the tournament, you must face and overcome yourself.

(I also think Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, or both would have to face Reptile at some point since he's Shang's bodyguard and they're both out to get Shang...but obviously that wouldn't be a tournament fight, so it's not on the bracket.)


Well its about time some one cleared that up. If you have any more of the brackets for the other games can you please post them somewhere or Pm them to me. That would be awesome.smile
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Trini_Bwoi
04/11/2011 05:40 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
I am saying that it's canon the last official fight of MK1 is Liu vs. Goro.

Therefore, your "what if Goro was eliminated earlier?" idea is impossible.


A 'what if' is impossible, really?

I'm saying it wouldn't make sense for the champion of Mortal Kombat to participate in earlier rounds (so Goro can't be the 8th fighter) because what if they were eliminated. There would be a new champ mid-tournament.
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Gorozilla
04/11/2011 05:41 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
Tons of people entered. The playable characters in MK1 are the ones that managed to make it to the finals alive. Kang, Kano, Scorp, Sub, Sonya, and Johnathon kick a bunch of no name ass to get to the finals. Then this happens

Kang beats Goro
Tsung challenges Kang
Tsung sends Goro to kill Cage, Kano and Sonya for some reason
Cage + Sonya + Kano vs. Goro
Kang beats Tsung
Island collapses
Sonya, Kano and Goro fall to their apparent deaths when the Pit collapses. Cage is saved by Raiden
Scorp kills Sub. I don't think this was an official matchup. I think Scorpion just found Sub-Zero on the island and killed him


More or less correct, though you have the Tsung vs. Liu part backwards.

Liu is the one who challenged Shang, because Shang was never actually supposed to compete and at that point, the tournament was already over and there wasn't a damn thing Shang could do about it except be pissed and order Goro and his guards to try and kill everyone out of spite. But Liu wanted a piece of him personally because his whole reason for attending the tournament was to take it away from Shang's control and return the host/grandmaster role to the Shaolin temple.

Anyway, years ago in XD's analysis topic, this topic came up before. And in that thread, I speculated a possible bracket that made sense to me, based on the character dynamics introduced in the series and the MK1 and 2 comics. Obviously, this isn't canon at all, just my own ideas, but it's fun to think about.

Here's what I came up with.

Scorpion and Sub-Zero had to be eliminated before they could face each other, because Scorpion doesn't kill Sub-Zero until after the tournament ends, while the guards are attacking and Liu is fighting Shang.

I thought Kano should beat Sonya to make their rivalry actually worth a damn. Because they fight again in MK3 and Sonya wins that one. It would kinda suck if she got the best of him twice in a row. Plus Sonya's whole reason for fighting in the tournament is if she loses, her men in Shang's dungeon will be executed. Having Kano be the one to cost those men their lives seemed appropriate to me. The alternative is that they never fought during the tournament at all, which is just anticlimactic.

I thought Johnny Cage should face Kano at some point to settle the grudge they started on the boat. I also tend to think of Johnny as being the next best thing to Liu out of the MK1 roster and deserving to make it to the semifinals.

Raiden had to be in there because he did compete, but I wanted him to be fighting solely to test the mortals and find out which one most deserves to be defender of Earth. So I had him fight Sub-Zero, who showed potential to change his ways in Mythologies, but ultimately fails, then he fights Liu and bows out to him because Liu is the guy.

I also think the Mirror Match should be canon 'cause it'd be a neat trick of Shang's magic, the idea that "everyone is their own worst enemy" in some way, and before you can win the tournament, you must face and overcome yourself.

(I also think Sub-Zero, Liu Kang, or both would have to face Reptile at some point since he's Shang's bodyguard and they're both out to get Shang...but obviously that wouldn't be a tournament fight, so it's not on the bracket.)


Great analysis. It's a shame that their just adding in combatants from the later games in the new storyline, I would have liked to see it unfold this way.
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SubMan799
04/11/2011 05:41 AM (UTC)
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mkwhopper Wrote:
I got all info. from this site http://pastehtml.com/view/1dkw1yp.rtxt


Is that what I think it is? 0_o
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mkwhopper
04/11/2011 05:55 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
mkwhopper Wrote:
I got all info. from this site http://pastehtml.com/view/1dkw1yp.rtxt


Is that what I think it is? 0_o


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RazorsEdge701
04/11/2011 05:56 AM (UTC)
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jbthrash Wrote:
Well its about time some one cleared that up. If you have any more of the brackets for the other games can you please post them somewhere or Pm them to me. That would be awesome.smile


The only other game that had a tournament bracket would be MK2. And I haven't put much thought into that one because there's so many more characters to consider.

All I would be able to guess at for certain, based on continuity and rumors, is that Sub-Zero fought someone and spared him, afterward Scorpion fights Sub-Zero and wins but lets him live because Scorp realized he wasn't the same dude he killed in the previous tourney, and Kintaro fought Jax and Raiden, beating the first and being killed by the second. And those last two might not even have been bracket fights, but rather just Kintaro guarding Sonya and Kano's chains. And outside the bracket, Mileena catches Kitana talking to the good guys, so Kitana kills Mileena. It's just too little information.

Oh, and Liu fought Kahn and successfully defended his championship, but how do we even know it was the real Kahn? I always thought it'd be better for the story of Kahn was like "I'm too busy dealing with the real plan, resurrecting Sindel, to deal with distracting these stupid mortals. I'll just animate a statue to pretend to be me." and that's why he turns to stone and explodes when he dies in MK2, and that would also make MK3 a lot more dramatic, if it was actually the first time Liu had ever fought the "real" Kahn, rather than having a record of beating him before, which kinda sucks the wind out of it. I mean even if he is more powerful in MK3 'cause he's got all of Earth's souls, there's still a feeling of "how hard can it be if I've already done it, and this time me and Kung Lao are double-teaming him?"
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SubMan799
04/11/2011 06:01 AM (UTC)
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Well I never saw MK2 as a tournament. I saw it more like a "Our team vs. your team," with whichever side getting the most wins winning the thing.
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RazorsEdge701
04/11/2011 06:04 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
Well I never saw MK2 as a tournament. I saw it more like a "Our team vs. your team," with whichever side getting the most wins winning the thing.


Well that's not really what the info in the games suggests. It always made it sound more like there was an actual structure to it and even Kahn's own guys could make it to the end and fight him if they wanted and were able, not that anyone was able because Liu and Kahn definitely had a championship round 1 on 1.
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04/11/2011 06:34 AM (UTC)
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T-rex Wrote:

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WHAT THE FUCK IS QUAN CHI DOING THERE!?




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He's Scorpion's handler and an ally to Shang Tsung and Outworld. He may have personally wanted to see the end of Sub-Zero given their previous history. Also he could simply be aiding Outworld in the event of their takeover, it would make it easier for him to retrieve Shinnok's amulet


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04/11/2011 12:31 PM (UTC)
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I don't think Raiden Participated in MK1 Tournament, I think he just led and advised Earthrealms Warriors.
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RazorsEdge701
04/12/2011 12:18 AM (UTC)
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raidenthefridge Wrote:
I don't think Raiden Participated in MK1 Tournament, I think he just led and advised Earthrealms Warriors.


In the original timeline, he was personally invited to compete and took a mortal form to do so.

In the new timeline, he's just standing around, giving the heroes advice during the tournaments.
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