*Updated: Story idea* - My opinion about Jade in Mortal Kombat (2011) // General Jade debate...
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(Warning!: Long post ahead.)
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*makes an Alex the Lion impression from the movie Madagascar*
ROOOOOOOAAAAAARR!!!
I warned you guys. ;P

After having seen the higher quaity scans I can honestly say that Jade looks absolutely gorgous. She has elements from Kitana and Mileena, yet in a way that makes her appear unique from the two.

Like Mileena, Jade wears a leotard which resembles her UMK3 outfit with the black string crossing her chest three times, forming three X's, and she has a loincloth/sash hanging from her waist in front, somewhat like Kitana, however, it appears to be somewhat shorter. It is a bit unclear on the scans as it isn't properly shown. The golden chains add to her costume and the golden lines that run along the black edges along her outfit is a neat touch as well. Her neck appears to be bare which I think is a shame. I would like it if she had gotten a choker of sorts, maybe something alike Tanya's in MKD. The mask looks very cool though, much cooler than Kitana and Mileena's in my opinion. Jade's boots and gloves are mainly black, but with some green and golden design on them. They appear to be made from leather while her mask and leotard is made from cloth/spandex. She appears to have some armbands as well, but like the loincloth, it is unclear how they look like as they aren't properly shown.

Her hair looks absolutely gorgous too! Very sophisticated and sexy. Her hair is all black and runs down over her right eye and is tied into what appears like a low ponytail that ends mid-back. Her skin colour could have been darker, but I've noticed that Jax has a lighter skin tone as well and I think it's because the scenery in most stages is rather dark and therefore they made Jax and Jade's skin colour lighter so they won't melt in with the scenery... though I could see the cool in the fact that Jade would use her dark skin colour to melt in with the shadows, as the assassin she is. ;)

Her Razor-Rang appears to be triple bladed like in MKD unlike her two-bladed boomerang in UMK3, and I prefer it like that. It looks somewhat like an oversized shuriken ala those from the Naruto animé, but that's alright. Also, the Razor-Rang leaves a green trail which I find a bit odd, considering that in UMK3, her conjured weapons (her staff and the boomerangs) left a purple trail and also had a purple glow to them. I realize her Razor-Rang had a green trail in MKD as well, and her staff was just some ordinary bo, however, I think they should have stayed true to the first three games and kept the purple trail.

Jade's colour is green, I know, but too much of one colour can be... well, too much. Ermac's telekinetic power wasn't represented in red in MKD either, though his colour is red. I can't wait to see how her gamplay will be like. I hope she utilizes her staff in her combos and that her fighting stance looks fierce. I would love to see her stand like she does in MK: Shaolin Monks (ala Cammy from SSF4) or like she does in MKT (see my sig).

And of course I hope she's kept all her special moves. From the screenshot scan, it looks like her Razor-Rang goes downwards, so hopefully she can throw it in several directions (straightforward, upwards, downwards) and maybe even have it return to her if it misses, giving her a second chance of hitting her opponent, like in UMK3. I want her Blazing Nitro Kick to look different from Cage's Shadow Kick, but not sure how. Her Dodging Shadows should have a new, cool animation to it instead of her simply flashing or glowing green. And her Vanishing Winds teleport should be fast and I wouldn't mind if she utilizes it like Kitana did in MKvsDCU where she did an Axe Heel Kick after having teleported behind the opponent.

So far, I am pleased with how Jade looks like.
What is your opinion? Do you want anything changed from her current looks? What are your hopes of an alternate costume for her? And how would you like to see her gameplay be like?

Edited update: I've noticed some say that Jade appears just as naked as Kitana and Mileena... I don't think she does. She is just as "naked" as she was in UMK3. And her bust size is very moderate, looking a bit smaller than the twins'.

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*Update*
Storyline ideas.
I've thought about some kind of story for Jade, inspired from some fanfiction I read ages ago. Since Jade has no confirmed past, she has so much potential. Some of you might think I give Jade too much credit in this storyline, but remember, these are just theories and ideas on how it could be. I've written it in MKD-style bio, so it is supposed to be seen from Jade's point of view.

"This is the truth about my realm. When I was but a child, we heard rumours about the Dragon King's fall. The throne of Outworld had been taken by his once trusted advisor, Shao Kahn, a powerful sorcerer who started a conquest on merging lesser realms to Outworld to make it even greater. Edenia and Outworld were once allies, but Shao Kahn was determined on conquering our realm as well. At first he attempted to invade our lands by pure force, but the Edenian army were able to push Kahn's forces back. Shao Kahn did not give up though and quickly regained strength and struck yet another time. We lost many men in the first war and were not able to withstand yet another attack, so our king went to the Elder Gods for guidance. They offered King Jerrod a way to prevent Shao Kahn merging Edenia with Outworld: the Mortal Kombat tournament.

If Shao Kahn's forces would win ten Mortal Kombat tournaments against Edenia, he would be allowed passage to our realm and be able to merge it with his own. However, should we win, we would be free from Kahn's tyranny... forever. Though Edenia had some fine knights, our strength lied in the excel of magic and sorcery, so our greatest sorcerers prepared for the tournament and entered with the goal of stopping Kahn's regime. However, Kahn's warriors were too strong and brutal, murdering our representants one by one.

The first few tournaments were won by Shao Kahn's forces, and so many Edenians sought help outside. A man of Outworld known as Bo'Rai Cho was against Kahn's tyranny and thus offered King Jerrod to train his men in martial arts, an offer our king could not refuse. I was one of the fighters who was trained by him, along with the queen herself who wanted a chance to defend her people. And at the next tournament, we surprised Shao Kahn and were now able to beat some of his warriors in the arena, however, it was not enough.

At the tenth tournament, I was now old enough and had enough training to join in and fight against the Outworld warriors. Queen Sindel fought as well and we were able to defeat many of Kahn's combatants. My queen faced Shao Kahn himself, but he was too much for her. King Jerrod interrupted the tournament before Kahn could finish off the queen and attacked him out of desperation. Shao Kahn ended the king's life in a brutal manner. Finding himself the winner of the tournament, Shao Kahn started the merging.

Instead of ending Queen Sindel's life as well, Kahn forcibly made her marry him and he then adopted the infant princess as his own. Impressed with my skills, Shao Kahn offered me to join his side or die by his hand. I chose to join him in order to protect the princess. Shortly after, Queen Sindel comitted suicide, having been driven into madness from the events. And thus Edenia was no more...

Princess Kitana and I were raised and trained as personal assassins for the emperor. However, when Kitana was old enough, I told her of Edenia and her true origins. It was a dangerous task, as spies lurked around every corner, keeping an eye on us at all times. She soon enough found out more on her own which convinced her I was telling the truth. Since then she was determined to find a way to free Edenia from Outworld, though I saw it as a lost cause.

A few millenia after, Shao Kahn had set his eyes on a new realm to conquer... the Earthrealm. The Elder Gods had made the rules of Mortal Kombat for that realm as well, and thus we fought and won. Kitana wanted to seek aid in the Earthrealm fighters to free Edenia, but her suspicious acts caught the emperors eye. Amongst the warriors of the first tournament, Shao Kahn found a potential sorcerer known as Shang Tsung who offered to aid the emperor in taking over Earthrealm. The emperor was intruiged and made the sorcerer his personal advisor and taught him to expand his magics.

For this betrayal, the Elder Gods cursed the sorcerer, having him age significantly faster than others from Earthrealm, however, the emperor taught him to steal the souls of others to maintain his youth and grant him immortal life. In return, Shang Tsung first made Mileena, a failed experiment in cloning Kitana, who was then introduced to others as Kitana's twin sister, though we knew better. He also made sure that if Kahn should fail in winning the tournaments, Queen Sindel would awake from the dead on Earthrealm grounds, allowing Kahn to merge the realms so he could claim his bride once again.

And as predicted, Shao Kahn failed at winning the tenth tournament. Queen Sindel was resurrected and Kahn started the merging. That was when Kitana told me she had gotten contact with one of the Earthrealm warriors who was determined to aid her in freeing Edenia. Mileena overheard our conversation, always having a watchful eye over Kitana, and striked at us. Kitana ended up killing her 'sister' and fled. Back then I had little trust in the Earthrealm warriors, so I found it right to report to the emperor. I along with the saurian warrior, Reptile, were ordered to have Kitana return to us. I now face an important decision. Should I defy the emperor and aid Kitana in following an almost impossible dream in freeing Edenia, or should I betray my best friend and force her to return home..."


What I want to do with this story is to give Jade more depth. I find the idea of Jade knowing about Edenia from before Kahn's conquest quite interesting, and it gives Kitana a plausible explanation on how she learns about her heritage.

What do you think of it?
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Kamionero
01/12/2011 11:10 AM (UTC)
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I think Jade is the one that looks the best of the 3 ninja girls... by far actually.
I really hope her moves dont suck, and that they add something special rather than just be regular projectile, dash, and teleport move. She does have the advantage of that dodging move that is pretty unique.

That was the problem w most special moves in Armageddon... they where too generic and repeated themselves. Teleport, Dash/Rush attack, Projectile. Granted the animation changed, but it was still pretty damn boring. I hope they come up w some ingenious moves for the characters this time around, considering that if the characters only keep their mk1-3 moves there are gonna b a LOT of repeats. Maybe more trap moves, grab moves or IDK... stuff that will blow our minds like Reptile's invisibility did back in MK2!!!
Considering Jade has a very special mystique to her thanks to her secret character origins, and being the only female one of the generation, it shouldnt be too hard to come up w some cool tricks for the green lady.
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01/12/2011 11:13 AM (UTC)
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If you are talking about the Youtube video, then I must commend you on your eyesight. I got more detail from the blurry cellphone images than I got from that thing. tongue

So basically, I still have no clear image of what she looks like.
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Noobsmoke92
01/12/2011 11:34 AM (UTC)
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Well,Jade by far is my favorite from the Trinity.The only thing I dislike about her design is she is a lil bit lighter that she is supposed to be.

...It is storywise what she can give I am looking forward most.

I want her to show her struggles with this Kitana mission in MK3 alongside Reptile...Her choosing Kitana and etc. But I also want to see her background silent missions on Earth warriors during MK2 and her POSSIBLE confrontation with Human Smoke in the Living Forest.
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01/12/2011 11:35 AM (UTC)
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Haven't seen any other pics other than the not-so-good ones. Still need better pics to judge.
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 11:35 AM (UTC)
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Siroj Wrote:
If you are talking about the Youtube video, then I must commend you on your eyesight. I got more detail from the blurry cellphone images than I got from that thing. tongue

So basically, I still have no clear image of what she looks like.


Clearer scan images have been leaked. As it is aganst the forum rules, I cannot lead you to them, but if you google for them I am sure you will be able to find them.

Good luck. ^^
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MKBooted
01/12/2011 12:02 PM (UTC)
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Don't like this version of Jade much, she reminds me of Kitana.

Her MKD look was better.
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 12:08 PM (UTC)
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MKBooted Wrote:
Don't like this version of Jade much, she reminds me of Kitana.

Her MKD look was better.


Well, you have to remember, we are back at when the three girls all worked for Shao Kahn as his assassins. Their outfits are like uniforms and are supposed to appear alike. I think they did a good job, without making them appear like palette swaps this time around.

I do like her MKD look as well, but I see that look as Jade's Edenian Freedom Fighter outfit, as in post MKT. It's the same reason they didn't make use of Mileena's MKD outfit, I believe. However, perhaps their alternate outfits will reflect those.
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01/12/2011 12:49 PM (UTC)
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Im really happy with jades hair it looks great!! Im a bit on the fence about her outfit i feel like shes showing more than Mileena but i do feel the gold chains add a nice touch im glad shes wearing a mask and i hope her staff or spear is more like mk3 or the mk2 movie i HATED the spear in deception it looked chunky and heavy i hope to never see that again!!!
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Bi-on-iC
01/12/2011 01:20 PM (UTC)
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Where're the HQ pics??? I can't find them confused
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 02:04 PM (UTC)
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Bi-on-iC Wrote:
Where're the HQ pics??? I can't find them confused


It is against forum rules to ask for and post scans or links to scans. But search on google and I'm sure you'll find them.
ive never been huge jade fan nor have i disliked her, but i will say out of the three ninja girls she certainly looks the best, there just seems to be a bit more design elements to her opposed to Kitanas yawn halter top and sash number
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 03:01 PM (UTC)
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Sindel18 Wrote:
i hope her staff or spear is more like mk3 or the mk2 movie i HATED the spear in deception it looked chunky and heavy i hope to never see that again!!!


Indeed, I was quite disappointed with the staff she had in MKD-MKA. It was not a good design for it. I want her staff to look much more simple and not as chunky. It's a staff she conjures through kinetic energy, from what I understand, so it should appear more ethereal, and hopefully it will have it's purple trail when she uses it.
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01/12/2011 03:14 PM (UTC)
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I want Staff based normal moves like in UMK3.
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01/12/2011 03:58 PM (UTC)
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I would like to see Jade incorporate her staff into combos and attacks, like Kitana does with her fans. As for her costume, its perfect, no complaints here. Kitana looks awesome, Mileena looks awesome, and Jade completes the trio and she looks awesome also. Jade's hair is okay, I would have preferred the pig tail look from MKD, I really liked that look, or some other variation of that. I cant really tell what her hair looks like except its partly over her face, but I think Jade should have long hair like Kitana, maybe not as long, but similar.
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01/12/2011 04:07 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
(NOTE!: Do NOT ask for the scans or links to them. It is against the forum rules!)

*makes an Alex the Lion impression from the movie Madagascar*
ROOOOOOOAAAAAARR!!!
I warned you guys. ;P

After having seen the higher quaity scans I can honestly say that Jade looks absolutely gorgous. She has elements from Kitana and Mileena, yet in a way that makes her appear unique from the two.

Like Mileena, Jade wears a leotard which resembles her UMK3 outfit with the black string crossing her chest three times, forming three X's, and she has a loincloth/sash hanging from her waist in front, somewhat like Kitana, however, it appears to be somewhat shorter. It is a bit unclear on the scans as it isn't properly shown. The golden chains add to her costume and the golden lines that run along the black edges along her outfit is a neat touch as well. Her neck appears to be bare which I think is a shame. I would like it if she had gotten a choker of sorts, maybe something alike Tanya's in MKD. The mask looks very cool though, much cooler than Kitana and Mileena's in my opinion. Jade's boots and gloves are mainly black, but with some green and golden design on them. They appear to be made from leather while her mask and leotard is made from cloth/spandex. She appears to have some armbands as well, but like the loincloth, it is unclear how they look like as they aren't properly shown.

Her hair looks absolutely gorgous too! Very sophisticated and sexy. Her hair is all black and runs down over her right eye and is tied into what appears like a low ponytail that ends mid-back. Her skin colour could have been darker, but I've noticed that Jax has a lighter skin tone as well and I think it's because the scenery in most stages is rather dark and therefore they made Jax and Jade's skin colour lighter so they won't melt in with the scenery... though I could see the cool in the fact that Jade would use her dark skin colour to melt in with the shadows, as the assassin she is. ;)

Her Razor-Rang appears to be triple bladed like in MKD unlike her two-bladed boomerang in UMK3, and I prefer it like that. It looks somewhat like an oversized shuriken ala those from the Naruto animé, but that's alright. Also, the Razor-Rang leaves a green trail which I find a bit odd, considering that in UMK3, her conjured weapons (her staff and the boomerangs) left a purple trail and also had a purple glow to them. I realize her Razor-Rang had a green trail in MKD as well, and her staff was just some ordinary bo, however, I think they should have stayed true to the first three games and kept the purple trail.

Jade's colour is green, I know, but too much of one colour can be... well, too much. Ermac's telekinetic power wasn't represented in red in MKD either, though his colour is red. I can't wait to see how her gamplay will be like. I hope she utilizes her staff in her combos and that her fighting stance looks fierce. I would love to see her stand like she does in MK: Shaolin Monks (ala Cammy from SSF4) or like she does in MKT (see my sig).

And of course I hope she's kept all her special moves. From the screenshot scan, it looks like her Razor-Rang goes downwards, so hopefully she can throw it in several directions (straightforward, upwards, downwards) and maybe even have it return to her if it misses, giving her a second chance of hitting her opponent, like in UMK3. I want her Blazing Nitro Kick to look different from Cage's Shadow Kick, but not sure how. Her Dodging Shadows should have a new, cool animation to it instead of her simply flashing or glowing green. And her Vanishing Winds teleport should be fast and I wouldn't mind if she utilizes it like Kitana did in MKvsDCU where she did an Axe Heel Kick after having teleported behind the opponent.

So far, I am pleased with how Jade looks like.
What is your opinion? Do you want anything changed from her current looks? What are your hopes of an alternate costume for her? And how would you like to see her gameplay be like?

Edited update: I've noticed some say that Jade appears just as naked as Kitana and Mileena... I don't think she does. She is just as "naked" as she was in UMK3. And her bust size is very moderate, looking a bit smaller than the twins'.


Sombody loves them some Jade lol!
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01/12/2011 04:13 PM (UTC)
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I hope she somehow gets captured and turned into a fembot somewhere along the line so that next game we have cyber jade.

Edit: you know what, screw that, everyone's a friggin cyborg next game.
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01/12/2011 04:22 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Clearer scan images have been leaked. As it is aganst the forum rules, I cannot lead you to them, but if you google for them I am sure you will be able to find them.

Good luck. ^^


Okay, I saw them. So we got 2 pictures, one of them is too small to see any real detail. The other one is the close-up.

I like the green/gold combination. I also like the chains and the way her hair covers her eye. That's about it for now. All in all, I find the design pretty bland to be honest. Maybe once I see her in action...

... but at the moment I'll just shrug and say 'meh'.
Edit: Edited update: I've noticed some say that Jade appears just as naked as Kitana and Mileena... I don't think she does. She is just as "naked" as she was in UMK3. And her bust size is very moderate, looking a bit smaller than the twins'.

Her boobs looking a 'bit smaller' don't mean they're moderate. tongue
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 04:24 PM (UTC)
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TheHidden Wrote:

Sombody loves them some Jade lol!


Ayup ^^

looktolaluna Wrote:
I hope she somehow gets captured and turned into a fembot somewhere along the line so that next game we have cyber jade.

Edit: you know what, screw that, everyone's a friggin cyborg next game.


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*kicks in the face*
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Devan
01/12/2011 04:25 PM (UTC)
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Well Jaded you pretty much took the words right out of my mind and what I think lol But yes she does look gorgeous and does stand out amongst Kitana and Mileena!!! And she will clearly have her moves from UMK 3 with some updated ones I'm sure :)
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01/12/2011 05:27 PM (UTC)
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I'm a little down about how closely she resembles Kitana. I understand the focus is the first three games, but I think that focus is starting to become a little exaggerated. In a game that prioritizes individuality, I think NRS should have stuck to her MKD look, which was gorgeous and very unique. I loved the skin tone, the unmasked face boasting her exotic features, the wavy hair flowing beside the green silks. Here she looks too much like green Kitana with a tan (her skin tone should've resembled Deception a lot more as well).

Of course, as Jaded has mentioned, in the beginning of this timeline, the trio are still assassins working together under Khan, and I'm pretty sure her alternate will be more MKD-inspired... so at this point I'm just hoping for some nice gameplay footage of Jade so we can focus on the rest of her character design.
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 06:07 PM (UTC)
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When you say Jade looks like Kitana, then what exactly do you mean? Is it the outift?

There are three things the three girls share in their outfits: The mask, the cleavage and the crossing strings. And even those three things are different from one another. They're supposed to share some similarities as they are Shao Kahn's assassins and their outfits are some kind of uniform of sorts.

Like Scorpion and Sub-Zero have similarities as well. They are hooded, they wear masks, their outfits are V-shaped and they have loincloths... And they are supposed to resemble eachother, at least somewhat, as the game takes place where they were all palette swaps of one another.

I am no fan of palette swaps, but I find their outfits different enough from one another to be their own Individual designs. They are not as individual from one another as they were in MKDA-MKA, no, but again, they are not supposed to.
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JADEdSCORPION
01/12/2011 06:24 PM (UTC)
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I love her new look! I think that render they have of her is lighter than her in-game model. Her in game model where she's fighting Kitana looks pretty dark to me. I love it. The only weird thing about her fighting in-game is that it doesn't show the sash in front? Or maybe the physics is making it move to the side?
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Jaded-Raven
01/12/2011 06:37 PM (UTC)
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JADEdSCORPION Wrote:
I love her new look! I think that render they have of her is lighter than her in-game model. Her in game model where she's fighting Kitana looks pretty dark to me. I love it. The only weird thing about her fighting in-game is that it doesn't show the sash in front? Or maybe the physics is making it move to the side?


Yeah, I haven't been able to get a proper look at that sash/loincloth either. I'm rather curious how it is attached to the rest of her costume and how it looks like overall. The same with her armbands. :P
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(Erik)
01/12/2011 06:53 PM (UTC)
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I wish she left a purple trail as well.
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