vanishing winds......
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posted01/20/2011 01:07 AM (UTC)by
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As we all know Jade had this in MKD and MKA, but it was given to Kitana in MKvsDC now named "Pixie Dust Teleport"

And Kitana remains to keep it as seen in her X-ray move..

Do you think Jade will be given all her old MKT moves back like invincible to projectilies for 5 seconds, The pole throw, or do you think the MK Team will give her some new unique moves?

I don't think the vanishing winds suits Kitana, and as i don't really like teleport moves i think it should be given back to Jade, as Kitana already has square wave move that moves her from one side of the screen to the other.
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Osu16Bit
01/18/2011 02:41 PM (UTC)
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It's in her X-Ray but Kitana doesn't have it as a regular special move so maybe Jade still will.
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 02:41 PM (UTC)
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So far we haven't seen Kitana using a teleportation move other than in her X-Ray move. Hopefully, Jade will have an updated version of it. It needs to be faster and utilized differently than in MKD. I liked how Kitana could make an axe heel kick as she reappears after the teleport and I would like for Jade to have that or something similar.

And hopefully Kitana won't have it as one of her regular special moves. I don't mind her using it in her X-Ray move, but Jade should be able to have it as her special move. Jade needs more special moves and Kitana has quite enough already.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 03:42 PM (UTC)
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MK/DC utilized the situation of having roughly ten combatants in by "stealing" special moves from characters that didn't make it to those who did. For example, Sub-Zero had the teleporter move in MK/DC from Smoke but he doesn't apparently have it in this game.

What comes to Vanishing Winds, I don't see there a problem with giving it back to Jade.
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queve
01/18/2011 03:51 PM (UTC)
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Well, I'm not a fan of teleports, but, this is a Jade move (and amazing special moves is something she really lacks). If Kitana still has Jade's teleport, I hope they give Jade a new different version of it.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 03:58 PM (UTC)
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Jade should possibly have plant moves. She is a green ninja debuting in the Living Forest, so plant special moves would fit her. So far she has only got that petal dust around her in some of her moves (e.g. Vanishing Winds).
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 04:14 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Jade should possibly have plant moves. She is a green ninja debuting in the Living Forest, so plant special moves would fit her. So far she has only got that petal dust around her in some of her moves (e.g. Vanishing Winds).


... I sincerely hope you aren't serious. She's an assassin, not Poison Ivy from Batman! Her powers include speed and kinetic energy, not geomancy.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 04:17 PM (UTC)
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No, somebody just brought this symbiosis thing around Jade and Smoke towards the Living Forest. But it's probably better to stick with the kinetic moves she has so far, maybe having a bit more with weapons now. It could be awkward to change the theme of a character afterwards.
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 04:21 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
No, somebody just brought this symbiosis thing around Jade and Smoke towards the Living Forest. But it's probably better to stick with the kinetic moves she has so far, maybe having a bit more with weapons now. It could be awkward to change the theme of a character afterwards.


Then that would mean that Reptile's powers should be all about spiky pits, since that is where he was hiding in MK1. I don't get the point of such theories, honestly.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 04:24 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
No, somebody just brought this symbiosis thing around Jade and Smoke towards the Living Forest. But it's probably better to stick with the kinetic moves she has so far, maybe having a bit more with weapons now. It could be awkward to change the theme of a character afterwards.


Then that would mean that Reptile's powers should be all about spiky pits, since that is where he was hiding in MK1. I don't get the point of such theories, honestly.
Yeah I'd suppose. Reptile had this name already though, indicating ro his true persona.
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 04:30 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Then that would mean that Reptile's powers should be all about spiky pits, since that is where he was hiding in MK1. I don't get the point of such theories, honestly.
Yeah I'd suppose. Reptile had this name already though, indicating ro his true persona.


Well, yes, but so do Smoke. Jade is named after the colour of the jewel by the same name and she wears green there of. Nothing in her name indicates she can control plants. So there you go.

Scorpion got his name because of his skills with his spear. None of his powers have anything to do with actual scorpions though (other than his MK4 fatality). And only in recent games, his appearance has taken inspiration from the scorpion. If he should get a name befitting his powers, it would probably be Hellspawn or Flameskull... you get the idea. ;)
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 05:01 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Well, yes, but so do Smoke. Jade is named after the colour of the jewel by the same name and she wears green there of. Nothing in her name indicates she can control plants. So there you go.

Scorpion got his name because of his skills with his spear. None of his powers have anything to do with actual scorpions though (other than his MK4 fatality). And only in recent games, his appearance has taken inspiration from the scorpion. If he should get a name befitting his powers, it would probably be Hellspawn or Flameskull... you get the idea. ;)
You shouldn't instruct me about Mortal Kombat name backgrounds because I've studied them quite a little. :) Scorpion resembles a real scorpion with his spear throw referring to a scorpion's sting. The reason I brought the plant connection with Jade is because she debuted in the Living Forest (connection to both Smoke and Jade - mist and woods) and the jade jewel doesn't really suggest what moves she could have, it only tells she is green and that she might be royal. I brought an optional source of special moves for Jade in case NRS would be struggling with creating them; plants haven't been utilized so far. The speed and kinetic she has are OK to me but she may need new moves along with them.
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Thibideau
01/18/2011 05:07 PM (UTC)
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Ya know I'm glad that Jade is in the game as much as the next Jade fan, but there's already two other topics about Jade, did we really need a third for her moves discussion?
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 05:09 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Well, yes, but so do Smoke. Jade is named after the colour of the jewel by the same name and she wears green there of. Nothing in her name indicates she can control plants. So there you go.

Scorpion got his name because of his skills with his spear. None of his powers have anything to do with actual scorpions though (other than his MK4 fatality). And only in recent games, his appearance has taken inspiration from the scorpion. If he should get a name befitting his powers, it would probably be Hellspawn or Flameskull... you get the idea. ;)
You shouldn't instruct me about Mortal Kombat name backgrounds because I've studied them quite a little. :) Scorpion resembles a real scorpion with his spear throw which refers to a scorpion's sting. The reason I brought the plant connection with Jade is because she debuted in the Living Forest (connection to both Smoke and Jade - mist and woods) and the jade jewel doesn't really suggest what moves she could have, it only tells she is green and that she might be royal.


What I am trying to point out is that the name does not always have to do with their powers! Scorpion did not look anything like a scorpion in past games, that's a recent theme he's gotten. The spear throw is why he got the name Scorpion in the first place, but his powers has nothing to do with actual scorpions.

Jade's debut in the Living Forest has nothing to do with her powers and it shouldn't either.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 05:18 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Well, yes, but so do Smoke. Jade is named after the colour of the jewel by the same name and she wears green there of. Nothing in her name indicates she can control plants. So there you go.

Scorpion got his name because of his skills with his spear. None of his powers have anything to do with actual scorpions though (other than his MK4 fatality). And only in recent games, his appearance has taken inspiration from the scorpion. If he should get a name befitting his powers, it would probably be Hellspawn or Flameskull... you get the idea. ;)
You shouldn't instruct me about Mortal Kombat name backgrounds because I've studied them quite a little. :) Scorpion resembles a real scorpion with his spear throw which refers to a scorpion's sting. The reason I brought the plant connection with Jade is because she debuted in the Living Forest (connection to both Smoke and Jade - mist and woods) and the jade jewel doesn't really suggest what moves she could have, it only tells she is green and that she might be royal.


What I am trying to point out is that the name does not always have to do with their powers! Scorpion did not look anything like a scorpion in past games, that's a recent theme he's gotten. The spear throw is why he got the name Scorpion in the first place, but his powers has nothing to do with actual scorpions.

Jade's debut in the Living Forest has nothing to do with her powers and it shouldn't either.
Whew. I am aware of that, did I state else? The name does not always have a connection to a character's special moves, yes. Why did you bring that? This seriously isn't new info to me. All I did was that I threw an idea of Jade having additional plant-related special moves. You could think the green dust that is around her as a petal dust so they could practically expand that.
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01/18/2011 05:18 PM (UTC)
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Kitana actually got the pixie dust teleport in MKA, I definitely think both Jade and Kitana should have their teleports. I really hope Kitana has her teleport as a regular special move and not just part of her xray. The teleport fits both of them nicely, I mean they're both edenian and they both grew up and trained together so it makes sense that they would have some similar moves. I hope they both have a teleport, Sindel should have one too.




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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 05:21 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Well, yes, but so do Smoke. Jade is named after the colour of the jewel by the same name and she wears green there of. Nothing in her name indicates she can control plants. So there you go.

Scorpion got his name because of his skills with his spear. None of his powers have anything to do with actual scorpions though (other than his MK4 fatality). And only in recent games, his appearance has taken inspiration from the scorpion. If he should get a name befitting his powers, it would probably be Hellspawn or Flameskull... you get the idea. ;)
You shouldn't instruct me about Mortal Kombat name backgrounds because I've studied them quite a little. :) Scorpion resembles a real scorpion with his spear throw which refers to a scorpion's sting. The reason I brought the plant connection with Jade is because she debuted in the Living Forest (connection to both Smoke and Jade - mist and woods) and the jade jewel doesn't really suggest what moves she could have, it only tells she is green and that she might be royal.


What I am trying to point out is that the name does not always have to do with their powers! Scorpion did not look anything like a scorpion in past games, that's a recent theme he's gotten. The spear throw is why he got the name Scorpion in the first place, but his powers has nothing to do with actual scorpions.

Jade's debut in the Living Forest has nothing to do with her powers and it shouldn't either.
Whew. I am aware of that, did I state else? The name does not always have a connection to a character's special moves, yes. Why did you bring that? This seriously isn't new info to me. All I did was that I threw an idea of Jade having additional plant-related special moves. You could think the green dust that is around her as a petal dust so they could practically expand that.


*facedesk*
Jade does not have plant-related powers. Period.
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01/18/2011 05:23 PM (UTC)
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Thibideau Wrote:
Ya know I'm glad that Jade is in the game as much as the next Jade fan, but there's already two other topics about Jade, did we really need a third for her moves discussion?


Apparently...

As for the move, I could care less if it makes the cut. As long as Jade has her UMK3 projectile and Shadow Kick, I'll be happy. Although I do wish she'd get at least two new moves this time around.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 05:25 PM (UTC)
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Lol. She does not provenly (I've never stated she does) but as NRS hasn't told does the dust have any specific element, it could be petal dust. Got it?
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 05:26 PM (UTC)
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Thibideau Wrote:
Ya know I'm glad that Jade is in the game as much as the next Jade fan, but there's already two other topics about Jade, did we really need a third for her moves discussion?


I made a Jade thread to discuss these things last week, but I can't force people to write in it. If they want to make a thread of their own, then that is their choice.

Zmoke Wrote:
Lol. She does not provenly (I've never stated she does) but as NRS hasn't told does the dust have any specific element, it could be petal dust. Got it?


No, it could not. Why would petal dust fly around her as she twirls? It's magical smoke to obscure the fact she is disappearing, to confuse the enemy. In old Japan, ninjas used smoke bombs to distract the enemy as they ran into hiding or fled the scene. That's why Jade has the green smoke about her in her teleportation move. It has nothing to do with plants!
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 05:34 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Thibideau Wrote:
Ya know I'm glad that Jade is in the game as much as the next Jade fan, but there's already two other topics about Jade, did we really need a third for her moves discussion?


I made a Jade thread to discuss these things last week, but I can't force people to write in it. If they want to make a thread of their own, then that is their choice.

Zmoke Wrote:
Lol. She does not provenly (I've never stated she does) but as NRS hasn't told does the dust have any specific element, it could be petal dust. Got it?


No, it could not. Why would petal dust fly around her as she twirls? It's magical smoke to obscure the fact she is disappearing, to confuse the enemy. In old Japan, ninjas used smoke bombs to distract the enemy as they ran into hiding or fled the scene. That's why Jade has the green smoke about her in her teleportation move. It has nothing to do with plants!
"Why would petal dust fly around her as she twirls?...to obscure the fact she is disappearing, to confuse the enemy."

You just answered your own question...
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 06:19 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:


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*kicks in the face*
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 06:31 PM (UTC)
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Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea I threw there, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.
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Jaded-Raven
01/18/2011 06:40 PM (UTC)
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Zmoke Wrote:
Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.


They aren't about to come up with it. That is already part of Jade's powers and it has been since her first appearance. That is what I have tried to tell you! To say Jade should suddenly have plant powers, because she appeared in the Living Forest is one of the most ridiculous arguements I have ever heard.
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Zmoke
01/18/2011 07:09 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Zmoke Wrote:
Okay... thanks for the argument. As for why petal dust in particular; for the aforementioned reasons. It's just a special move idea, seriously. Like it or not. No need to raise a huge controversy on that. It doesn't necessarily have to happen if NRS is to come up with new speed and kinetic type moves which would eventually be more favorable.


They aren't about to come up with it. That is already part of Jade's powers and it has been since her first appearance. That is what I have tried to tell you! To say Jade should suddenly have plant powers, because she appeared in the Living Forest is one of the most ridiculous arguements I have ever heard.
Right. The Living Forest part is based on the theory somebody threw in about a possible symbiosis between Smoke and the Living Forest that could work with Jade as well. Along with that she has these green dust moves and a green color.

But I hope you understand my point by this because I'm not going to continue this much longer: [Scorpion] didn't have [fire] element special moves in the beginning. [He] has had small connections with [fire] throughout [his] story past the games [(e.g. Netherrealm)] so recently [he] has obtained a couple moves of the element to attain the generalized amount of special moves. Now try to input words fitting for Jade into the boxes. (In addition Scorpion had the flaming skull Fatality though but every character is a different situation aren't they?)
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