Why MK9?
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posted07/01/2010 03:18 PM (UTC)by
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I keep getting confused as to why this game is being reffered to as MK9. Surely the chronological order of the games is (excluding spinoffs and expansions.

1- MK1
2- MK2
3- MK3
4- MK4
5- MK:DA
6- MK:D
7- MK:A
8- Mortal Kombat Reboot.

Since this game is following on straight after Armageddon, would'nt this make this game the 8th not 9th. Surely MK vs. DC does not count as MK8. I always thought it was set after MK3. And not even sure if it canon.

Someone please clear this up for me.
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SubMan799
06/29/2010 11:19 PM (UTC)
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MKDC is a spinoff and should not be put into the main series of fighting games. I love the game, but it is a spinoff. MK9 just caught on with the fans, so thats why we call it MK9. Calling it MK8 would confuse people who think MKDC is MK8
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06/29/2010 11:20 PM (UTC)
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MK1
MK2
MK3
MK4
MKDA
MKD
MKA

MK vs DC

MK9

they count MK vs DC as a part of the chronological order of the "Main" games they have worked on. MK vs DC is MK8


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EDIT: damn! Subman beat me to it. I personally Do not think that they actually consider it part of the series, Yes it was a spinoff, but it was their main game of 1v1 fighting and focus for wuite sometime and was developed by them the same as any other MK game. I can see MKSM being cut out as its kind of something really different AND just an andventure game, not really a fighter. I understand MK8 being MKDC 100% and I agree with it
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06/29/2010 11:24 PM (UTC)
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well ed boon never said it was 8 or 9 he just said its called mortal kombat. The publishers and audiance said it was 9 and included the spinoff, so it was kinda our fault calling it mk9.
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MyQueenSindel
06/29/2010 11:25 PM (UTC)
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Didn't someone say that it was just going to be called "Mortal Kombat"?
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Kamionero
06/29/2010 11:25 PM (UTC)
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Although in games like Street fighter the VS. games dont count in numbering, i think MKvsDC should, why? No reason really, but because MK story is not all there to begin with, and the gameplay is fairly different from the previos installments I personally count it...
Also, why is MK Armageddon counted as 7 while trilogy is not 4?
the numbering system doesnt make much sense to begin with... so it ́s a do as you will kind of deal...

I prefer to go w 9 cause it sounds and sorta looks cooler i guess

And when the hell is Shaolin Monks 2 coming out?
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06/29/2010 11:30 PM (UTC)
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Look at boons twitter, this is treated as the 9TH main installment in the fighting franchise. This is form Boon. This IS NOT an official title, jsut the number of this particular game in a line of 9 MAIN fighting games.
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06/29/2010 11:36 PM (UTC)
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As others have said, MK vs DCU has been counted as the 8th game in the series. I personally think it shouldn't be as it does nothing to continue the story in any way as we know the new game will. It's just a side game or spinoff, nothing more.
Kamionero Wrote:
Although in games like Street fighter the VS. games dont count in numbering, i think MKvsDC should, why? No reason really, but because MK story is not all there to begin with, and the gameplay is fairly different from the previos installments I personally count it...
Also, why is MK Armageddon counted as 7 while trilogy is not 4?
the numbering system doesnt make much sense to begin with... so it ́s a do as you will kind of deal...

I agree that the versus games shouldn't be counted in the chronology. It just doesn't make sense unless the story behind them actually furthers the main story of the games that have been fused.
In answer to your last question, basically, you have to view some of the games as upgrades to the previous and in some cases, ignore certain characters and stories. As such, you get the following chronological order:
MK1
MK2
MK Trilogy
MK Gold
MKDA
MKD
MKA
MK 2011 / MK8 / MK9 / Mortal Kombat or whatever it's getting called.
Basically, MK Trilogy is MK3 as it combined MK3 and UMK3 and became the full package for that chapter as it were. With MK Trilogy however, you have to ignore the inclusion of the likes of Classic Sub-Zero and the MK1 versions of Raiden and Kano and MK2 Kung Lao and Jax.
MK Gold is the full episode of MK4. It has the same story and gave us 6 more characters and stories to expand on MK4.
MKA is MK7 but given that we never got full bios for everyone on that, again like with Trilogy you could choose to ignore certain characters given the canon of their stories from previous games. It is however the complete episode as it has no upgrade and had it's own story where as Trilogy and Gold expanded on the stories of the games previous to them.
I hope that helps.
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06/29/2010 11:47 PM (UTC)
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Since this game is the eight installment in the canonical series, I am calling it MK8. There's plenty of room on my bandwagon if anyone wants to jump on.
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06/29/2010 11:50 PM (UTC)
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I disagree. Who is to say that everone in Armageddon wasn't "canon"? In fact part of it's story is that hell opened up and let all the past fighters come back. I just don't think anyone here is in the position to say what should or shouldnt be overlooked. People who don't want to call this game mk9 are silly and are living in a fantasy world. (but i guess we all are, arent we?)
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06/29/2010 11:57 PM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:
I disagree. Who is to say that everone in Armageddon wasn't "canon"?

No one is saying MKA wasn't canon. We're referring to MKvsDC, which the creators CONFIRMED wasn't canon.

krac_poe Wrote:
People who don't want to call this game mk9 are silly and are living in a fantasy world. (but i guess we all are, arent we?)

People who don't want to call this game MK9 are able to count.
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krac_poe
06/30/2010 12:01 AM (UTC)
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Count, sir.

MK
MK2
MK3
MK4
MK5 DA
MK Deception
MK Armageddon
MKvs.DC
MK (9)


These are the mk fighting games that the chicago team has made.
Thats prolly why Ed has MK9 on his twitter and MK9 items around the office. (Twitter pics) Stop being in denial. Start swimming.
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06/30/2010 12:04 AM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:

MKvs.DC

Which is still not canon.

If you want to call it MK9 simply because it's another MK game, I suggest you call it MK10, since Shaolin Monks was MK8 under your logic.
EDIT: Forgot Mythologies and Special Forces. Make that MK12.
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krac_poe
06/30/2010 12:05 AM (UTC)
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why are you ignoring parts of my posts? Why are you still in denial?

"MK Fighting games that the Chicago team has made."
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06/30/2010 12:07 AM (UTC)
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I go in chronological order of fighting games. MK3, UMK3 and MKT are all considered the same to me. This is MK9 to me. Despite MK vs DC not being cannon as far as the storyline goes, it is still a fighting game with the name Mortal Kombat in it, made by the Mortal Kombat team.
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06/30/2010 12:07 AM (UTC)
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I personally prefer Mortal Kombat 5 the most. Just how GTA series ignored SA and VC and went ahead and called GTA IV GTA IV.
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06/30/2010 12:09 AM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:
why are you ignoring parts of my posts? Why are you still in denial?

"MK Fighting games that the Chicago team has made."

Allow me to clarify: The number in a movie/game title does not refer to the number of movies/games made. It refers to the number of continuations in the story. That's why Metal Gear Solid Subsistence is not considered a genuine MGS sequel, and therefore is not numbered as such.

MKvsDC was not a continuation of MKA as it is not canon. Therefore, it is not MK8. Since MK8 does not technically exist prior to this game, we cannot call MK(2011) MK9. It's as simple as that.
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krac_poe
06/30/2010 12:11 AM (UTC)
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Its as simple as the people MAKING THE FRIGGIN GAME calling it MK9.

http://twitter.com/NOOBDE
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06/30/2010 12:12 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Since this game is the eight installment in the canonical series, I am calling it MK8. There's plenty of room on my bandwagon if anyone wants to jump on.
I call shotgun.
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06/30/2010 12:12 AM (UTC)
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krac_poe Wrote:
Its as simple as the people MAKING THE FRIGGIN GAME calling it MK9.

http://twitter.com/NOOBDE

I am aware of this, and as I said in another thread, labeling this game as MK9 was irresponsible on Boon's part.
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06/30/2010 12:29 AM (UTC)
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I don't care what Boon Calls it, this is the guy who couldn't deliver since DA, and arguably since 2 or 3. sure D and A were rush jobs but 4 and DA were not, anyone who thinks MK couldn't be done well in 3D with a proper team are missing the point as well.

DC was not part of the story, 8 it is.
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krac_poe
06/30/2010 12:30 AM (UTC)
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What Ed says goes however, since he is a co-creator. We play Ed's game, figuratively and litterally. All this crap is born out of Ed and Tobias' ass. Thats all there is to it.
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06/30/2010 12:39 AM (UTC)
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FlamingTP Wrote:
I call shotgun.

Excellent. That means we'll have all the cake and pie necessary.

krac_poe Wrote:
What Ed says goes however, since he is a co-creator. We play Ed's game, figuratively and litterally.

All this crap is born out of Ed and Tobias' ass. Thats all there is to it.

There isn't an exact agreement on what extent an author has authority on his/her fiction, but surely there's a drawing line somewhere. Things get complicated with so many installments, but travel back to 1997 and imagine if Boon tried this maneuver with MK4. Wouldn't we be in the right to call foul?
well.. I personally would rather not call MKvDCU an official MK game, so.. let's just say MKSM was MK7
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krac_poe
06/30/2010 12:50 AM (UTC)
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Not really. We could disagree or just not like it, but we cant say that its something it isnt. That would be like someone telling George Washington that the 1700's doesnt count as history.

Arguably the only other party that could determine something about MK is WB since they own the name MORTAL KOMBAT.
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