You're contradicting yourself. If you want to call MK8 based on the Mortal Kombat games that are canon to the storyline then based one what you just said then you can't fucking count.
Special Forces was canon.
Mythologies was canon.
And so was Shaolin Monks.

So under you logic this game is in fact MK 11.

But who gives a shit anyway. Stop being a fucking dick to people and let them call it whatever they fucking want. If they want to call it MK 2011/ MK 8/ MK 9/ MK IX/ MK Who gives a rats ass. Then so be it. Is it in your nature to tell someone they're wrong based on your opinion?

And I don't see why you call Ed Boon irresponsible because he talked about it (unofficially I might add) as MK9. What's exactly going to happen? The whole world is going to explode because he called it MK9? It's quite perfectly reasonable to call it that considering that many people refer to MKvsDC as MK8 despite it not being canon. It simply avoids confusion.

Not to mention the official title of the game is Mortal Kombat so this whole thread is completely moot.

MKvsDC, while not canon, was the 8th final version of a Mortal Kombat fighter, making it MK8. Mortal Kombat 2011 is the 9th fighter, sooooo it should be called?... *You say: "MK9."* That's correct. You get a gold star.

It is called MK9 because it is the 9th main fighting game that is not a spin-off or an update. The games are numbered by main fighting release. Ed Boon himself has said that MKvsDC is MK8 for those who are counting. If you don't believe me, look up interviews about MKvsDC.

MK1
MK2
MK3
MK4
MKDA
MKD
MKA
MKvsDC
MK9

Yeh, I'm with ya. Screw it, We dont count SM, SF or Mytholgies so why should vs. DC be any different.

MK8 it is!!! EDIT: Also, I'm amazed at how quick a response I got from this forum. hahaha.

'Cause Vs DCU was a fighting game, where SM, SF, and MKM: SZ were not.

But it should be said that this is all moot, as the new MK doesn't have a number anyway.

Ninth Tournament based Mortal Kombat game.

Nuff said.

... we never had to deal with this bullshit from Tekken

This post is pure gold! Haha! xD



Also, I agree with those who says that this is MK8.
I don't care if MKvsDCU is a 1vs.1 fighting game as any other, it is NOT cannon.
To me, what we can call as the "MK8" is that Mortal Kombat which is a classic 1vs1 fighting game AND cannon, not only one or another, just like any other previous MK game.


Marvel Supeheroes vs. Street Fighter wasn't SF4, so I don't know why we should say MKvsDCU is MK8. I don't know what the heck was going through Boon's mind when he said "if you're counting, this is Mortal Kombat 8", seriously.

No one wants to call this MK5 and ignore everything between MK4 and this game?

Wouldn't that make X-Men vs. Street Fighter SF3?


That's not really what I meant. Yes, canonicity is ONE requirement of being an official installment, but just because something occurred doesn't immediately make it a part of the main story.

I said only sequels of the story should be deemed official installments, but general events that occur within the MK universe outside of the linear saga aren't considered "the story" even if they are genuinely canon. With that logic, Kurt Gödel's biography would be a sequel to Albert Einstein's biography because they both were friends who worked at Princeton.

And MKSM and Special forces weren't canon, FYI.


I hate reading things like this, because I honestly make a conscious effort not to attack or criticize other users personally. I may curse for emphasis, and if I feel like my point isn't being communicated, I'll speak more directly. I'm not saying people can't call this game MK9; I'm saying the game is MK8, and I have given my reasons.


This isn't BASED on my opinion. This is based on facts. Opinions get their value from the extent which they're correct. The opinion, "the world is round" has more value than the opinion, "Biodome was a good movie."

The contrary. This is the game that's going to bring back fans that who've been absent for more than ten years. These are the poor souls who aren't going to know any better when it comes to the validity of MKvsDC's events. I love Boon, but yes, labeling this game MK9 was irresponsible on his part.

I'm actually a supporter of MK vs. DC and thought it was pretty fun, but it's clear that that is an entirely separate thing. This really should be considered MK8, but they've done away with the numbers in the titles anyway so it's not too big of deal for me.

If the title of the next game was MK9, I'd be quite peeved, but it's likely going to be Mortal Kombat: ______. I'm not the biggest fan of just calling this Mortal Kombat. I guess you could start calling the first MK, MK1, but this is an entirely different topic.

You know it's just a working title, right? Were calling it MK9 through the pre-release cycle. Once it's out, it's just Mortal Kombat. A fresh start.

P.S. Haha, you love a man.

Working name perhaps, but based off the forum reaction, it doesn't look like it's ever going away.

That's okay, though. That's why I'm here.


You can only stare at those eye brows for so many years before sparks start flying.

Mein gott. We are arguing over a game having a number it will never support...

We are arguing over canon which is now truly fucked and technology which ig getting better.

The developers are no doubt calling it MK9 and the story writers are calling it...ummm....Mortal Kombat 3?

I'm just gonna call it Super Mortal Kombat and hope for the best.

This is how I see it:

1 - Mortal Kombat.
The first game in the series, also known as MK1. This is where it all started, Shang Tsung's tournament on his island and lost to Liu Kang and the rest of the Earthrealm fighters.

2 - Mortal Kombat 2.
Second game in the series, this time the tournament takes place in Outworld and happens just after MK1. The Earthrealmers go to Outworld and beat the crap out of Shao Kahn's minions.

3 - Mortal Kombat 3/Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3/Mortal Kombat Trilogy/Mortal Kombat: Advance.
I see all these three to happen at the same time, but are updated versions of eachother. The storyline goes, Shao Kahn is on his way to melt Earthrealm together with Outworld and the Earthrealm fighters defeat Shao Kahn which prevents the realms to melt together.

4 - Mortal Kombat 4/Mortal Kombat Gold.
Shinnok and Quan Chi picks up where Shao Kahn failed, took over Edenia and attempts to do so with Earthrealm. They fail and are thrown back into the Netherrealm.

5 - Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance/Mortal Kombat: Tournament Edition.
Quan Chi flees the Netherrealm and joins up with Shang Tsung where they assassinate Liu Kang. They make the Soulnado and creates a "fake" tournament to lure great fighters to their temple and put their souls into the ancient Dragon King Army's immobile bodies. They are close to winning, but then...

6 - Mortal Kombat: Deception/Mortal Kombat: Unchained.
As Raiden fights off Quan Chi and Shang Tsung in their temple, Onaga, the Dragon King, appears and goes after Quan Chi's medallion. Raiden attempts to blast him off by sacrificing himself in a storming explosion, but Onaga survives and gets his medallion. Fighters from every realm gather to stop him from melting all the realms together.

7 - Mortal Kombat Armageddon.
Though Onaga is prevented, something draws all the fighters to Edenia in one final battle. Argus and Delia expected this day and in an attempt to stop it all, they had Blaze be the trigger to either the death of all fighters or have them lose all their powers. Their sons, Taven and Daegon are the one who are to fight the elemental, but Daegon is awakened from his long slumber too early and goes insane, killing his parents. Taven wakes up near Armageddon and kills both his brother and the elemental Blaze.

Not knowing what happened by Taven killing Blaze, we do know that Shao Kahn and Raiden fought eachother in the Armageddon and Raiden was close to death as he sends off a warning to his past self from before the first Mortal Kombat which results in...

8 - Mortal Kombat (2011).

...
I do not see MKvsDCU as canon. I follow the main storyline and sees that as more important than in what row the game is produced, and I have always done so with every game-series. No matter what Boon says, I see this upcoming MK to be the 8th installment of the main storyline.

Mortal Kombat: Special Forces happens before MK: Mythologies.
Mortal Kombat: Mythologies happen before the first MK game.
Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks happens in between MK1 and MK2.
Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe appears to happen post-MK2, however, the storyline is non-canonical with the main storyline of the MK-series.

This is the most sensible way to see the series in my opinion.

Why people, after DEADLY ALLIANCE, DECEPTION & ARMAGEDDON, and now MORTAL KOMBAT, still cares about number series? Geez...

I always love the Samurai Shodown example:

Samurai Shodown Zero - 1786 (Released date: 2003)
Samurai Shodown - 1788(early summer) (Released date: 1993)
Samurai Shodown 3 - 1788(early fall) (Released date: 1995)
Samurai Spirits 4 - 1789(early winter) (Released date: 1996)
Samurai Shodown 2 - 1789 (Released date: 1994)
Samurai Shodown64 - 1790 (Released date: 1997)
Samurai Shodown64 2 - 1791(Released date: 1998)
Samurai Shodown Warriors Rage - 1810 (Released date: 1999)

Probably something like that in that forum will blow some brains lol

Another example: Star Trek (2009) isn't Star Trek XI, is just Star Trek. Period. This isn't MK8 or MK9 (but it's MK9), it's simply Mortal Kombat. Maybe that game doesn't erase the previous canon games, but they no longer cared about them (and we still don't know 2/3 parts of Armageddon...)

Btw, Special Forces & Shaolin Monks are canon

Oh Hell No! Now you just done pissed me off! Once a spin-off always a spin-off especially Special Forces lol!

I am positive that MKSM is not canon, as there are many things in the game that seems contrary to what happens in the main storyline. I am not sure about MK: Special Forces as I have never had the opportunity to play it. The only spin-off game that seems plausible to the main storyline is MK: Mythologies.

Except for the MK2 intro, Shaolin Monks doesn't change anything that we know for sure in this game (Kitana killing Mileena, Scorpion vows to protect younger Sub-Zero, and... that's all). Obviously we have to forget the BOSS fatalities, there are some explicit licences...



Sub-Zero mythologies is a spin-off too. MK vs DCU is a cross-over. Generally, cross-overs aren't canon, spin-offs are canon.

I'm gonna keep calling it what the developers are to distinguish the game from other mks.

For some reason I feel weird making up new names for things that already have names. I guess from now on I'm gonna start calling Burger King "Super Awesome Meat Sandwich Place." Yep, I like that better.

I do apologise for swearing but It really gets to me when people judge others intelligence, attack and criticise them, not based off of facts but pure opinion. It's just unnecessary.



Who's to say that to number a new entry of a series it has to be canon and a direct sequel instead of a prequel? Taking that view The Good, The Bad and the Ugly wouldn't be considered a part of the Dollars Trilogy. Considering it's a prequel and it not being a direct sequel then it is not the third Dollars film (despite it being canon) it's just simply a seperate thing altogether.
Your opinions are not facts. You believe that for it to be the next number in a series it has to be canon and a direct sequel being part of the linear storyline. Others believe that it just has to have the same qualities, themes etc and the same name. That sir is opinion, not facts.
If it wasn't then Grand Theft Auto IV is not Grand Theft Auto IV. Manhunt 2 is not Manhunt 2. Midnight Club 2 is not Midnight Club 2. You see where I'm going?



You seem to forget that those poor souls that have been absent for all those years will not be reading Ed Boons twitter pre-announcement. Most will not be trolling the MK forums and find the name MK9 and all of a sudden assume that MKvsDC was canon. As far as they are concerned they don't give a shit about Mortal Kombat until they've been proven it's worthy of returning to. And by that time, people will be naming it by it's real name. Mortal Kombat.

And besides do you really think that when the game is released and if people are still calling it MK9 that anyone that isn't an MK fan is going to give that much of a shit? This is the most likely reaction;

"Hey look at MK9, it's fucking awesome"
"Aw cool, so does this mean that MKvsDC was MK8?"
"Yeah"
"So all that shit really happened?"
"I dunno. Maybe? Yeah?"
"Cool."

And even then I can imagine a casual fan of MK won't even go into that much depth. And anyone who actually gives a shit about what is canon in the MK storyline will likely already know that it's not or atleast be intelligent enough to know it's not.

You're acting as if it's a huge deal.
People's brains will not collapse at the thought of it when they are told this is MK9.

I'll say it once again, it's all moot anyway considering the fact that there is no number in the title.

I had read on multiple sites and seen in multiple videos (I can't recall them and don't feel like looking, so you'll have to take my word) that the Mortal Kombat team had started working on Mortal Kombat 8 after they finished Deception, then when whoever decided to make MK vs DC had decided to do that, the "scrapped" all their MK8 ideas and created MK vs DC. Scrapped is in quotes, because I also recalling reading that the Mortal Kombat team was planning on doing a reboot of the series since after Deception (before MK vs DC). After deciding to not make a sequel to MK vs DC, the MK team, I'm assuming, picked up where they left off with what was then MK8. So in my opinion, MK2011 is being referred to as MK9, to not only avert any confusion for those who consider MK vs DC as MK8, but also because it is not the same EXACT Mortal Kombat game they had started before jumping to MK vs DC, thus, a new game, new number.

Since Ed Boon had gone public with stating that Mortal Kombat 8 was in the process of being started, and then jumping from what would have been Mortal Kombat 8 to MK vs DC, it's just easier to refer to the new game as either its title, Mortal Kombat, or as MK2011 or MK9.

But that is just my opinion.

Correction to my last post. It was after they finished Armageddon, not Deception.

Go to 2:41-2:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TOPPCSZR_U&feature;=related

MKvsDC is Mortal Kombat 8!!