Ha. You completel skipped over me to try to avoid an uncomfortable situation. Perfect to prove you could not think of a way to kombat my rebuttle, you just took somebody else's comment and ran with that. Not gonna work. Here's where I'll start;

Skarlet, Kitana, Jade, and Mileena being ninjas. What in the world do you think a ninja is? A ninja is somebody who stealthily sneaks up on a vistim and kills them silently and tries not to be noticed, and prefers darkness. I what way does Kitana try to be stealthy in her fights? The only time Jade could ever be close to a ninja is in Deception, where she was specifically trying to be sneaky. Apparently, you have ninja and Final Fantasy's berserker mixed up.

Tifa is an iconic female from the Final Fantasy franchise. Princess Toadstool/Peach is an iconic female. Ivy Valentine is an iconic female. So I guess they'd all be great Mortal Kombat characters, right? No. Absolutely wrong. Noobsmoke, just because a character is supposedly "iconic", doesn't mean they'd fit well in every video game. And, Red Sonja is not that iconic. She gets a movie deal. Well, so does Ant Man from Marvel. Apparently, Ant Man is iconic. And on top of that, you think because she's hot, she would be a good MK character Big wrong. I have not met 1 person in my lifetime that thought a character's hot-ness made them more likely to be played. For instance; in MK;2011, I hae never played against anyone using a female character. Ever. Not a single time. And with the massive fanserice, that's just backing up my point more.

Really, I feel your logic is awful in this situation. Yo're clouded by thoughts of bobs in chainmail bikinis. Apparently, you have a chain fetish. Have fun with that, but your opinions aren't instant fact.

Now, on to other matters...
Red Sonja in MK would not fit. She isn't as popular as Freddy Kreuger, she isn't as violent as Kratos, and she has no rlevance to Mk at all. On top of this, You think her looks and status are capable of getting her into MK as a guest. Wih that said, I feel I should refer to wise word one of my best friends told me when I requested he create a Street-Figter sprite of me-


You would benefit wfrom Red Sonja in MK. Not many other people do. If you want her so bad, make a Skarlet texture for MK:2011 on the PC, it doesn't really matter, and you'll be happier, and you alone. Good for you. Enjoy fapping to that chainmail bikini. Hell, wear yourself out, make a hospital trip from dehydration if you want. Even imagine it's Ice. Nobody else will know. Ice might care. She'll get over it. ;) Really, instead of just going on about why YOU like her as an MK character, give me a reason to want her as an MK character, and I'll gladly support you.

Yeah, the point of my post was that I thought guest characters were a good idea. The only objection I would have to Red Sonja specifically would be that she's redundant. We already have, in the form of Kira, a redheaded, large breasted lady who exists solely for those purposes. Kira is basically Sonja except she's part of a franchise that's not horrible.

I know it may not be what you want to hear but red Sonja is getting the writer of batgirl to do some comics for red Sonja. It's same person who did birds of prey. Red Sonja hasn't been getting the attention she deserves but that's changing for the better. Red Sonja has new movie coming soon, new comics, being voted the sexiest female in comics. She's now getting the publicity she deserves.

How does red Sonja fit in Mk? I don't have the faintest of idea. Red Sonja is mostly killings dragons and monsters and a few bad men here and there. She wouldn't have a story that fits unless she's one of dead souls which Kahn consumed. Or she could be a warrior which ermac consume.

they asked several female artists to do covers for new red Sonja and this is what best artists came up with
www.comicsalliance.com/red-sonja-1-cover-art-simone-dynamite/

This could e her arena. Northern lights. Seeing as she's a sorcerer kind of. So a different coloured sky would go well.
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Ermac doesn't consume souls. He's not Slender Man. Ermac is a being comprised of many souls Shao Kahn had slain in his period before MK1. And you just said this yourself;

Red Sonja doesn't really have a place in MK.
You just counteracted your own logic.

Now, Red Sonja's popularity is increasing. To what avail? I had no idea that she would be getting a movie of her own. When I did, I didn't care in the slightest. I won't ever care, even. Ant Man from Marvel is getting his own movie. Slender Man is getting his own movie. Spider Man 2099 never got his own movie. Aquaman has never gotten his own movie. By that logic, Ant Man and Slender man are more popular and iconic than Aquaman and Miguel O'hara (Spider-Man 2099), which is a downright lie. Just because she's got a comic book's spot as hottest woman and she's getting her own movie, does NOT mean she should be in MK. There is nothing refuteable to support why she would fit in MK. You can't give me any reason to believe why she would be a good MK character. If everybody who got a movie was considered iconic and popular enough to make a playable appearance in other genres, than you basically just stated that Barbie would be a goodMK character. BARBIE.

That's like saying Bidoof is a decent Pokemon.

Guest characters is a publicity stunt. Kratos trailer got millions of views. It attracts a wider audience and it reaches out to fans of other franchises. Red Sonja is brutal and she's far from a role model. She drinks, she's lusty. Still she remains brutal and super sexy at same time. She's got dark side because she's the she-devil with a sword. She fought Spiderman.

You basically just made your Red Sonja sound like she doesn't belong because of this whole post:



Still doesn't make her seem like a guest character based on her getting a little more popularity. I can think of seven other characters that are even better than Red Sonja that could make a good guest for this game, and no Patrick Bateman is not one of those seven.



You're going to ask this question despite that you're a huge, obsessed fan of hers? I would have figured that you would have at least some kind of idea for a story for...



... Eh never mind.



Oh, so she does nothing that special.



Kahn doesn't consume souls though, you are thinking of Shang Tsung.



I believe the word you're looking for is "composed." As in, Ermac is composed of dead warrior souls.


Like I said, I would have expected you to have a story for her since you're so obsessed... How very disappointed I am.

Who are seven other characters that you think is better than Red Sonja. They have to be females only.

Red Sonja fought Dracula and he made her into a vampire for a while. Her story could be based around vampires. Red Sonja is being reimagined right now. The new writer is Gail Simone the writer for Batgirl. Only released #1 episode of the comics, which has sold out.

Red Sonja has been touched by two Gods, blessed in spirit and flesh.

Marrow
Cat Woman
Storm
Silk Spectre
Emma Frost
Wonder Woman
Raven.

These are seven characters I feel the community would at least respect for a consideration. Not that I am right that they would accept her, however, at least these guys have been well-known in their series, are very popular in some ways, and have been in games before. Granted that I do have Marvel characters on the list, and I doubt they would team up... but then again, the world works in mysterious ways. And they can have some sort of story to tie in with Mortal Kombat, such as Marrow, she could tie in with Baraka and the Tarkatans...

I saw this Boris Vallejo pinup many years ago, and immediately thought she would make a great MK character

@icebaby from your list i only see catwoman as being malicious but she's got a playful side. Red Sonja is much more ruthless and brutal than them all. She's constantly pictured with blood on her body. Wonder Woman is a clean fighter. Storm is powerful, but would Marvel give rights to their character considering the outcome of their character actually being a bad representation of it. Guests have so much more to prove. I still think Red Sonja is better fit, she has no superpowers but she's only been beaten by Wolverine. Conan could not best her Also if we are including Marvel characters I would've thought Phoenix is best pick because she has dark side and becomes Dark Phoenix.

I had a feeling that no matter who I'd pick, you'd nitpick and say Red Sonja has more of a chance when I certainly have not seen any point you have made to even make her be a considered character. The only excuses you have is that she's listed on a list based on appearance, you think she is original, and that she is obviously your favorite fictional character.

Which the characters I've listed, they've been in video game crossovers, they've been in movies, more than how many Red Sonja movies that are out there. They would have tie-ins with characters, such as Storm being a tie-in with the Elder Gods, you can easily make a story between her, Raiden, Fujin, and any other elemental Elder God there is. With Marrow, because she has the ability to manipulate her own bone structure and such, I'd figured she would be best to work with the Tarkatans. Cat Woman could easily be an anti-hero, so you could have her be associated with the Sonya/Jax/Kano rivalry. Same with Silk Spectre. Raven could have her father side in with any character from the Netherrealm. Emma Frost can also be like a Tanya character. Wonder Woman could work with Raiden and the surviving heroes to save Earthrealm.

You haven't even mentioned how Red Sonja could tie in with Mortal Kombat, and I just gave you a whole list out of two minutes in just thinking on how they could tie in. Just face it, Red Sonja isn't remotely powerful enough to be a consideration of a guest character. She brings nothing to the series. With the ones I've mentioned, they could bring something. Red Sonja could not fit in because she doesn't have anything special about her. Despite Freddy was a total outcast, at least they gave him something to tie-in with Mortal Kombat, same with Kratos and to be perfectly honest, they fucking worked.

This is why I can't stand it when people beg for some random character to make an appearance in the series because they think that just because they'll be a guest, they have nothing else to give out to the fans other than being in some popular fighting game. They have to have at least some sort of reason to be brought to the game. And all the games that features a crossover clearly shows that. With you, all you're asking is for your obsession to be present in a game you play because you think she'll just fit right in because she fights and has gore featured throughout her series and because you think she's really hot. Those aren't even good reasons to convince Boon or anyone on the team to put her in.

Well, as long as we're counteracting Red Sonja; here's a SMALL list of female characters who would fair better in MK than Red Sonja;

Tifa Lockheart of Final Fantasy VII
Master Aqua from the Kingdom Hearts series
Samus Aran of Metroid
Wonder Woman of DC Comics
Sakura Haruno of Naruto
Ivy Valentine of SC
The Pyro from TF2
Judy Nails from Guitar Hero
Roll from Mega Man
Icebaby
Princess Zelda
The female Villager from animal Crossing
Princess Leia
Tira of SC fame
Jynx
Nidoran (female)
the pink Ice Climber
Android 18 from DBZ
Wii Fit Trainer.

Yes, even the Wii Fit Trainer would prove better than Red Sonja. All of the characters above would have so many possible thing to bring to the table in MK, and, they're all female.

Red Sonja; swordswoman who gets really angry. Been touched by gods to be blessed.

Well, let's see, Wonder Woman was created to be able to battle gods, Master Aqua was able to seal away an entire world to oblivion, Judy Nails saved the God of Rock, and Tifa helped in the battle against the god Chaos in Dissidia 012: Final Fantasy.

In swords and other melee weaponry; Wonder Woman is trained to use the swords against Ares; God of War, Master Aqua is one of the few warriors able to wield a Keyblade, Tifa can punch down walls, and on top of that, Sakura Haruno can punch down multiple building and even create earthquakes with a single punch, the female Villager can chop down a tree with 3 swings of an axe, the female Ice Climber swings around a giant hammer like it's nothing, the Pyro can wield a basic Hatchet like no other, Tira swings around a ginormous bladed hula-hoop as a weapon at the age of 14, and Ivy Valentine created her own variation of whip-sword.

In terms of anger;
Master Aqua was able to destroy the x-blade (which coexists with Kingdom Hearts itself), Sakura has been known to punch trees down by accident while enraged, the Pyro is legitimately insane to the point of thinking her enemies are fairies and she's blasting them with bubbles and lollipops (Yeah, thats what she thinks shes doing when in reality, she's burning them alive, shooting them in the face with firework guns, and splattering their brains with an axe.), Icebaby has been known to enter phases of extreme defensiveness and ramble on to the point of eyes popping out of people's heads, Tira, at the age of 14, was going about the world and fighting people who had some of the strongest weapons EVER, and if youve seen anything about the villager from Animal Crossing in SSB4, you'd know what a beast it could be.

I could go further into detail, but feel I've made my point. Red Sonja has nothing interesting to add to MK, she's something you want, not the kommunity. As I stated previously, if you want, put her into MK with the PC version's mods. That's what mods are for. You're happy, and you don't force it unto other people.

@icebaby & legoslayer
Go make a thread about why your characters should be guests and then we'll see the reaction from Mk kommunity.

First off, let me explain to you that I don't care for guest characters in Mortal Kombat. I prefer if there wasn't any for the next game, that is if there is one.

Secondly, I'm not going to get into a huge debate about seven random characters I pulled out of my ass to show you who I thought would make a better candidate for a guest character in this game. I've been trying to tell you that if you want a character to be a guest, have something that could tie in. You really didn't give a reason why you want this character you're oh-so obsessed about why she should other than she's hot, and you're throwing that in so many threads. Red Sonja this, Red Sonja that, you're really making me dislike the color red for some reason. But you mainly just asked me who were my seven characters and I gave you who seven of them were. I don't need others to agree/disagree because that was not my point I was trying to make with you. I don't need others to make my point stronger when I am capable of doing that myself, thank you very much.

Yeah, like I said, the whole hotness is such a good reason to put her in... what an awesome reason to put her in. I want Patrick Bateman because I want one perfect naked ass of Christian Bale to make its presence in Mortal Kombat... Just sayin'.

If I did, I'd at least be careful to put it in either the FanSub or Future MK Games Category of the forums, not one about a agame that came out 2 years ago.

And if I did, I'd make sure to explain why the character would actually benefit Mortal Kombat, not myself. And not jus because the character is hot.

Fanservice has become more of a disservice to most MK fans.



This is the reason I changed my MKO background style from Ermac to Noob Saibot.

Ok then to both of you go do it. And we'll see what Mk kommunity has to say. What's with the excuses. It sounds as though you're having second thoughts.

I don't need other people telling me my choices are good or bad, as I really didn't put that much thought into them. You asked for my opinion, I gave you them. I don't need to make the 500th guest characters thread for this site to see if the others would agree with me that my choices are much better to have in this game than Red Sonja. And it's not because I'm scared I'll be wrong or having a second thought, it's just I really don't care about my choices, however, you asked for them, I gave you them. That should be enough to realize not everyone agrees with your choice of a guest character.

I don't need others to agree with my choices, as I'm not that into guest characters, as I've stated multiple times already. That should tell you something.

I won't do it, not because I'm scared, but because I DON'T PUT EVERY LITTLE IDEA THAT POPS INTO MY HEAD ON MKO. (Sorry if that hurt anyone's eyes.) I leave my ideas away from MKO because I'm fine abiding by MKO's FAQ Guidelines when it comes to active threads, and because I don't want MK to be MY game, I want it to be A game. If you wanna design your own fighting game and put Red Sonja in, be my guest. I'll even help make the game. Voice acting, mocap, artwork, merch, whatever ya need. Just make it so that not every single idea you have doesn't make it to MKo. That would be Tremendous!

So it goes to show you're not confident on your guest characters.

Or people can say their opinions in here rather than making another guest character thread since there's so many of them,

No thanks I want this thread to be about Red Sonja. Stop being rude and go make your own thread about your character suggestions.

Wow. Sound so on topic for an MK Forum


Stop being rude, and you tell us what to do. That's so hyocritical, it's
Tremendous!

See, I'm fine not making my own thread because there is LITERALLY HUNDREDS of others, and they don't matter to the actual game creations ahead of us. I'm fine with my ideas being as they are- in my mind. I don't need to share my ideas because

1. They aren't that special. Everybody has them.

2. They won't matter to the full game.

For instance, I thought it would be great to add a mechanic in the next game where X-Rays would actually stop the opponent from using a certain limb. I didn't make a thread about it because it's not that big, and it's not going to matter.

Maybe you should stop being such a hypocrit and being mor e respectful to other users That would be
Tremendous!

The thread clearly went off topic since you keep trying to get me and Lego to make a thread that's already open on another forum.

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