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MKKitana
05/01/2005 01:35 PM (UTC)
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What exactly does it say about about Khameleon in nitara's konquest?
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~Crow~
05/01/2005 05:28 PM (UTC)
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MKKitana Wrote:
What exactly does it say about about Khameleon in nitara's konquest?


You have to fail her Kama mission to get this phrase, I believe.

"You must successfully learn the Kama. Khameleon would have mastered it with ease had her culture not been clubbed by Shao Kahn ages ago."
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MKKitana
05/01/2005 05:31 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
MKKitana Wrote:
What exactly does it say about about Khameleon in nitara's konquest?


You have to fail her Kama mission to get this phrase, I believe.

"You must successfully learn the Kama. Khameleon would have mastered it with ease had her culture not been clubbed by Shao Kahn ages ago."


Ah, Ok. Thanks ~Crow~ I done her Konquest twice and thought I was going insane lol.

Interesting that she's mentioned like that.
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~Crow~
05/01/2005 05:54 PM (UTC)
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I assume that if Khameleon returns, that may be her weapon style/weapon, depending on what the engine is using whenever that is. I really wouldn't be a fan of this... even though the Kama are probably one of my favourite weapons in the MK games. I hate how most of the new MK:D characters (and the returning classics) rehashed MK:DA's styles that other characters used.

Simply put, no two individuals will fight exactly the same... even if they happen to use the same style. This needs to be represented in Mortal Kombat a bit more than it has been...

Anyhow, if Khameleon was to use a Kama-type weapon, I would like to see the version of the Kama that connects two of them by a link chain. This sort of weapon would be much different than anything seen in MK so far.
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MKKitana
05/01/2005 05:58 PM (UTC)
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I agree with you Crow. I hate that MKD newbies got other styles. Like i said in a post somewhere else, I would like for each character to have their own styles. Im sure it's possible, although there are the problems with putting them into a computer engine etc.

I don't think the Kama would particularly suit Khameleon. But then again I'm not sure what would. I defintely don't see her with a sword tho.

But I think each character needs their own styles, or like u say ~Crow~, their own take on the style. For one thing, having their own styles individualises them. No matter how different tow characters stories are, giving one a style which someone lese previously had associates them both. This shouldn't happen IMO.
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MKKitana
05/01/2005 08:40 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
MKKitana Wrote:
What exactly does it say about about Khameleon in nitara's konquest?


You have to fail her Kama mission to get this phrase, I believe.

"You must successfully learn the Kama. Khameleon would have mastered it with ease had her culture not been clubbed by Shao Kahn ages ago."


Does this somehow hint at a rivalry with Khameleon and Nitara? It is said in a way that makes me think perhaps there will be a rivalry.

That phrase only appears if you dont learn the Kama attacks. Its as if whoever is speaking Konquest, is saying to Nitara....na na na na na Khameleon could have done this in a flash....spurring her on learn it because Khameleon would find it easy. See what I mean?
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~Crow~
05/01/2005 10:58 PM (UTC)
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MKKitana Wrote:

Does this somehow hint at a rivalry with Khameleon and Nitara? It is said in a way that makes me think perhaps there will be a rivalry.

That phrase only appears if you dont learn the Kama attacks. Its as if whoever is speaking Konquest, is saying to Nitara....na na na na na Khameleon could have done this in a flash....spurring her on learn it because Khameleon would find it easy. See what I mean?


I hadn't thought of that... but it is a possibility. I do find it a bit strange Khameleon's name would appear that way for no good reason, considering MK:DA's Konquest mode was not about inconsistencies at all. Most information stated is very canon and rich in character development, unlike the majority of MK:D's Konquest mode.

A second example of this is Kano's Konquest mode. Jarek's name is mentioned, but only if you fail a mission against Hsu Hao. It says the following: "Smab him in the pesina! Do it for Jarek!". Now, this would imply Jarek is either dead or captured by the Red Dragon, would it not. In any event, this line is used to drive Kano forward... so perhaps the same can be said for the Nitara/Khameleon connection.

Nitara's purpose in MK:DA was to free her realm from Outworld... what other realm do we know of that was consumed by Outworld ages ago? Zaterra, Khameleon's home realm, was taken by Shao Kahn many ages ago and all members of that race were destroyed, other than herself and Reptile. Now... could it be possible that Zaterra is actually the home realm to Nitara and Khameleon? Maybe the vampire race was able to evacuate before Shao Kahn's militia attacked, leaving behind the reptilian race to be slaughtered. Then again, the realms in Mortal Kombat seem to be inhabited by one race each, outside of Outworld which is nothing more than a land of former realms so two races inhabiting Zaterra may not be likely. This is the best I can think of that would tie the two characters together though, at least at the moment.
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MKKitana
05/01/2005 11:10 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
MKKitana Wrote:

Does this somehow hint at a rivalry with Khameleon and Nitara? It is said in a way that makes me think perhaps there will be a rivalry.

That phrase only appears if you dont learn the Kama attacks. Its as if whoever is speaking Konquest, is saying to Nitara....na na na na na Khameleon could have done this in a flash....spurring her on learn it because Khameleon would find it easy. See what I mean?


I hadn't thought of that... but it is a possibility. I do find it a bit strange Khameleon's name would appear that way for no good reason, considering MK:DA's Konquest mode was not about inconsistencies at all. Most information stated is very canon and rich in character development, unlike the majority of MK:D's Konquest mode.

A second example of this is Kano's Konquest mode. Jarek's name is mentioned, but only if you fail a mission against Hsu Hao. It says the following: "Smab him in the pesina! Do it for Jarek!". Now, this would imply Jarek is either dead or captured by the Red Dragon, would it not. In any event, this line is used to drive Kano forward... so perhaps the same can be said for the Nitara/Khameleon connection.

Nitara's purpose in MK:DA was to free her realm from Outworld... what other realm do we know of that was consumed by Outworld ages ago? Zaterra, Khameleon's home realm, was taken by Shao Kahn many ages ago and all members of that race were destroyed, other than herself and Reptile. Now... could it be possible that Zaterra is actually the home realm to Nitara and Khameleon? Maybe the vampire race was able to evacuate before Shao Kahn's militia attacked, leaving behind the reptilian race to be slaughtered. Then again, the realms in Mortal Kombat seem to be inhabited by one race each, outside of Outworld which is nothing more than a land of former realms so two races inhabiting Zaterra may not be likely. This is the best I can think of that would tie the two characters together though, at least at the moment.


Hmmmm I never knew that about the Kano-Jarek refernce either. Interesting.

Anyway about Nitara/Khameleon. Like u said, each realm seems to have one race only, with Outworld being a kind of wasteland and scatter ground linking the realms.

I was thinking more along the lines of Khameleon and Nitara being Rivals because:
Nitara wanted to use Reptile to do her dirty work. Reptile, although eager to do her work, has always been with a master. Khameleon, apperently being the Matriarch of Reptiles speices....although not his master as such, Nitara would realise that if she were to return, the two would be in competition for Reptiles services.

The reference was to spur Nitara on to Prove herself as a good warrior....and therefore, indirectly, a good master and ally for Reptile. The reference is kind of a bitchy comment to nitara.....comparing her to Khameleon in a way. This comment somehow to me indicates Nitara has knowledge of Khameleon and wants to prove herself better then Khameleon.

But perhaps yes, she may ahve knowledge because they are from the same realm. But Im not sure I like the idea of that.

Nitara did seem to have done her homework regarding Reptile and his species so maybe she just hates the thought of someone being a threat to her plans. (Plans we dont know about- perhaps she wants to use Reptile again if she put so much effort into getting him). She knew it was Reptile she wanted and done her homework on his race, personality etc in order to get him. Perhaps by studying him she came across Khameleon and hates the idea of someone ruining her plans.
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05/02/2005 02:13 AM (UTC)
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interesting with the khameleon/nitara connection. It futher applies that khameleon is a canon character for all those who doubt it. Not only could khameleon affect onaga who inhabits reptiles body but also could spark up a possible rivalry with nitara since the rumor of the raptors and vampires living together in the same realm was passed around. This would greatly give khameleon and nitara a very good purpose for a re-intro to the next MK.

But overall i think khameleon's re-intro would definately have an effect on onaga and his physical appearance and powers due to the fact that he is in reptiles body which responds to khameleons prescence which has been proven.
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