Features from the CLASSIC MKs that should return for MK7...

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04/13/2004 02:29 PM (UTC)

I've seen lots of mentions in posts about how the current MK's don't resemble the classic MK's enough, that although they have some nostalgia, there really should be more...

Well I'm wondering what kind of minor things you guys miss from the classic games that you would like to see return in MK7?

Here is my list:

- Have the two fighter's bow to each other before the fight (MK4)

I thought that was awesome in MK4/MKG. I think a bow or some sort of show of repsect to the opponent would be great after the camera zooms into the begining of the fight. Perhaps honourable fighter's (Kung Lao, Scorpion etc) would bow, and fighter's like Shang would insult the opponent...(like Shao Kahn in MK2)

- Have the Pit Death 'continue screen' (MK4)

I just think it was cool

- The announcer says BOTH "Flawless Victory" AND "FATALITY" after both are achieved. (MK1, 2, 3/umk3/mkt)

The last game where it announced both those phrases if you achieved both was MKT. I dunno why from MK4 on if you got a Flawless Victory and Fatality it only announces "Fatality". I know when I played online after I'd got a Flawless Victory against my opponent in Rd 2 or 3, sometimes I wouldn't Fatality on purpose just to hear "Flawless Victory"

But the Fatality adds insult to injury, so I wanna hear both phrases at the end of the match again!
Oh and "Double Flawless Victory" (MK1, 2) would be nice too...

- Stage Fatalities (MK1, 2, 3, 4)

Death Traps are great, but some match-ending specific deaths would be cool to go along with the regular in-game traps. I think the Kombat Tomb / MK4 Goro's Lair and perhaps the Prison Fan would be best, along with plenty of new ones.

- Mercies (MK3/umk3/mkt)

These were cool imo. Would be fun for online and like they were in MK3, great to pull against your friends...so you can kill em some more, and then tell 'em how much they suck

- Leg / Arm / Bone breakers (MK4)

Should replace those awfuly abused throws in MKD. Plus they were funny, but sickening at the same time. Definitely something good that should return.

- The ability to be able to pick up your opponents weapon and use it against them (MK4)

Well, it's something that kinda annoys me in MKDA and MKD, that ur character will never drop their weapon. But then again it was too easy to get knocked out of ur hands in MK4. So perhaps if you stay in weapon stance too long (ala Kenshi and his sword in MKD) after a certain amount of damage is inflicted, they drop their weapon. Then the opponent can grab it, opening up a whole new set of combo possibilities fo the opponent that picked up the dropped weapon. This would also benefit those who are good with many character's...

- Things around the arena that can be thrown (MK4)

I'm not sure about this, but if done correctly (not like MK4/MKG) then I suppose it could be ok. But perhaps logical things, unlike giant boulders etc. I haven't really thought about this feature returning, but if considerable thought went into it, it has the potential to be good.

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So those are some of the things I miss from the classics and would like to see return... What would you like to see return?

DeathScepter

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•03/03/2005 01:18 AM (UTC) •

good points you do have.

~Crow~

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•03/03/2005 01:33 AM (UTC) •

Death Traps are okay, but I really prefer Stage Fatalities. Too many of the Death Traps have the "explosion" effect I don't really care for anyhow...

I think stage objects should return as well... but of course, realistic things. Here are a few ideas I have:

Bottom of the Pit

-Severed heads
-Dismembered limbs
-Loose floor spikes which can be pulled out of the ground and weilded as a stage weapon

Lin Kuei Temple/other Ice Stage

-Snow can be thrown in clumps or kicked into the opponents' faces
-Ice
-Icicles could be broken off and weilded as weapons, but are breakable after several hits

Slaughterhouse

-Bones (femurs could be used in as a weapon stance)
-Meat (not the character :> )
-Sawdust should be present on the floors in some areas - could be kicked into eyes for a temporary blinding effect
-Blood (same as above, also can reduce traction)

Lung Hai Temple

-Fishing equipment (Rods, Anchors - Hooks could be weilded as weapons)

Dead Pool

-Chains that hang from ceiling could be push and pulled
-Acid could be handled and thrown (Would hurt the player, but have a blinding effect on the opponent if it connected - giving P1 a chance for free hits)

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•03/03/2005 07:09 PM (UTC) •

Thanks DeathScepter.

I like your ideas Crow.

Pit Bottom:
think being able to throw severed heads of dead warriors at your opponent would be both awesome and grim. This is the kind of humour MK should return to, not Bo Rai Cho farting...The loose spikes as weapons is a cool idea too, definitely something I'd like to see.

Same goes for your Ice stage ideas, using broken ice as a weapon. After reading that, I thought they could use the Kombat Tomb / Goro's Lair (mk4) stage fatality in a future ice stage. Icicles could hang from the ceiling as stalagtites and the opponent could be impaled onto them after the match. That way they could make a stage out of the "Ice Caves" Frost goes on about in MKD's konquest...

The sawdust to incapacitate the enemy is a nice touch too, same with the acid in the Deadpool. I'd love to pull the old acid in the eye against my enemy

Plus you get injured a little bit, but imobolize your opponent at the same time - so it's worth the damage. Boon has said how he always liked setting up for a free hit, so incapactiating moves using the arena would be a worthwhile addition.

Oh and for the Lung Hai Temple, if my fighter were close enough I'd like to be able to kick one of the rowers into the water and steal his paddle to use against my enemy. Then in the background we could see the rower floundering in the water for a bit, then get eaten by the water dragon

The more rowers that are kicked / knocked off, the slower the platform revolves and if they all get knocked into the water, it stops rotating. I think it'd be possible on the PS3...

I kinda went off topic a bit...so here are some other things I'd like to see return:

Air fireballs, backwards somersaults, air throws and roundhouses. Defintely need some classic gameplay return, the addition of the uppercuts was a good one for MKD, so lets not stop there...

Hidden character's you can fight against. Reptile, Noob, Smoke (MK2 and 3) and Jade were awesome - imagine if you had done something specific (like double flawless + fatality with no blocking and on MAX difficulty) in the Portal Stage in MKDA and you were transported to the Lava Shrine - or even cooler, a 3D version of the Pit 2 - to fight Blaze, who was incredibly tough to beat! I think that would been awesome...

A feature of MKDA that should return is the escape flips. Frost, Shang, Cyrax - they all had such cool escapes. The taunts were nice too.

Friendships could be good if they returned, at least they were humorous - I wouldn't mind seeing 'em back at all. Same goes for the Brutalities if they were revamped and not so lame...

red_dragon

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•03/03/2005 08:01 PM (UTC) •

I would much rather see pit fatalities return than death traps. Knock them into the pit at the end. Imo, there's something really lame about coming close to beating someone, only to take one hit that kills as a result of the trap. Even lamer, since they take the impact of fatalities away, gory death in round 1, back to life in round 2.

The next MK badly needs some sort of dash. I wouldn't bring the run button back, but some sort of way to move faster is needed.

I loved little things like reversals, dodges, taunts and power ups that each character had in MKDA. These should come back, maybe with some new things, as they helped make each character that little bit more different.

Test Your Might, along with a couple of new bonus games.

Each character having their own, different win pose.

I might be alone here, but I quite liked Friendships. There were some great ones (Johnny's autograph) and unlike Babalities and Brutalities, every character had their own personal Friendship move.

Things best left forgotten are Animalities, Brutalities and the MK4/MKG method of taking a weapon out.

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•03/03/2005 08:21 PM (UTC) •

red_dragon Wrote:
I would much rather see pit fatalities return than death traps. Knock them into the pit at the end. Imo, there's something really lame about coming close to beating someone, only to take one hit that kills as a result of the trap. Even lamer, since they take the impact of fatalities away, gory death in round 1, back to life in round 2.

This is a good idea, but I like the Death Traps as well, so why not incorporate both into the game some how. Like some locals will have Pit Fatalities, while others will have Death Traps.

red_dragon Wrote:

The next MK badly needs some sort of dash. I wouldn't bring the run button back, but some sort of way to move faster is needed.

Agreed!

red_dragon Wrote:

I loved little things like reversals, dodges, taunts and power ups that each character had in MKDA. These should come back, maybe with some new things, as they helped make each character that little bit more different.

Cool idea!

red_dragon Wrote:

Test Your Might, along with a couple of new bonus games.

I want to see Test Your Might and Test Your Sight back again, those are fun, and I think they should keep Chess, and Puzzle Kombat from MK D, cause those were fun.

red_dragon Wrote:

Each character having their own, different win pose.

Yeah, this would be cool! But they'd have to go with whatever style you're in, for example, if you've got a weapon, include it into the pose some way! Kinda sounds lame I know, but you get the idea.

red_dragon Wrote:

I might be alone here, but I quite liked Friendships. There were some great ones (Johnny's autograph) and unlike Babalities and Brutalities, every character had their own personal Friendship move.

Yeah, I liked those also, but they could be a little better done than they were orginially done. Like keep Johny Cage's autograph, but chance some of the other ones, like Scorpion's.

red_dragon Wrote:

Things best left forgotten are Animalities, Brutalities and the MK4/MKG method of taking a weapon out.

I like the Brutalities, but I hope they don't put in the Animalities, or the Babailites, cause those were lame.

~Crow~

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•03/04/2005 01:10 AM (UTC) •

Personally, I miss the Asian-themed character select music. I don't think the recent games have as good of selection music as games such as MK2.

On the same topic, I miss the versus screens and the poses when you select your character. Not that the information displayed in MK:DA+MK:D is bad, but I would rather see the character in their fighting style and do a pose when you select them along with the information.

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•03/04/2005 04:20 AM (UTC) •

Good points red_dragon, I agree with everything you said with the exception of the part about Brutalities. Like MKGeek I think if they were redone properly they could be cool.

~Crow~ Wrote:
Personally, I miss the Asian-themed character select music. I don't think the recent games have as good of selection music as games such as MK2.

On the same topic, I miss the versus screens and the poses when you select your character. Not that the information displayed in MK:DA+MK:D is bad, but I would rather see the character in their fighting style and do a pose when you select them along with the information.

Man! Exactly, as I've been recording MK1 combos recently and the music really adds to the theme of the game. MKD's music, although good in specfic places, really doesn't have that 'ancient tournament / conflict' feel. It's too industrial, and not mystical enough. And the 2nd points are both things I really miss too. The verses screens were cool, imagine if on the next set of consoles we get the character's we selected doing a kata or something before we get to the fight! And I liked the winning pose when you select your character too. Scorpion's umk3 is just crazy, and each fighter would look hype if they had their own individual pose now after you select them or after they win...

TheMkGeek

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•03/05/2005 03:40 AM (UTC) •

~Crow~ Wrote:

On the same topic, I miss the versus screens and the poses when you select your character. Not that the information displayed in MK:DA+MK:D is bad, but I would rather see the character in their fighting style and do a pose when you select them along with the information.

How about when you're at the character select screen, you highlight a character, and information on that character (fighting styles, etc.) comes up on the side of the screen, and the character does a few poses. You select the character you want, and to take an idea from WWE Smackdown:HCTP, at the versus screen, your character and the cpu-controlled character do poses in front of the background you'll be fighting in, they freeze into a pose, then it moves to the match?!

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