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DistraughtOverlord
08/29/2013 12:53 PM (UTC)
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I want Matt Groening to come work as a designer for MK. Since he designed Homer Simpson. Since Homer drinks a lot and ain't so bright, he's been popular for more than 20 years and still is. He is so much better than many other cartoon chars since it was not nerdy designed.

And Seth McFarlane's family guy characters would be great too. Or at least Seth should be hired by NRS since Stewie's a baby but so vulgar and wants to kill his mother and dominate the world. He's so much more badass than those nerds video game characters.

Since Homer is so popular and Stewie really that vulgar, my opinions are kind of facts, so this would make MK much better. But wait a second, i'm now wondering what parts of what i'm really saying are facts and which ones are just my 2 cents. Nevermind, i just plain don't get it sometimes.
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Icebaby
08/29/2013 02:26 PM (UTC)
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Like Mileena needs fashion statements from Gucci, please. What a joke.
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hankypanky1
08/29/2013 07:10 PM (UTC)
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08/29/2013 07:17 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Real fashion designers don't get it right on the first go. They take many attempts to perfect the costume for runway. The costumes are similar to mileenas and kitana primary costumes but better as its not nerds designing costume.


I think what I was trying to say went clear the fuck over your head. These talented people you feel like insulting by calling nerds (you're making requests for a video game on a fan made website, welcome to nerdom idiot) have to put these costumes on 3d models made of polygon's, not anorexic women. Even if they came to Netherrealm with a design and Netherrealm used it, it would not be translated 100% into the game.

IceBaby and DistraughtOverlord also made some extremely valid points. Which even without me weighing in deflated your argument immediately (Haven't read their posts yet, I suggest you do, they're well worth the read). Fan's want continuity, they want the culture of the Intellectual Properties they enjoy to stay intact. Mortal Kombat is a game made by over a 100 highly creative people at this point. People who have a right to say what goes into the game and each has something to bring to the table.

And besides, I could never see in a thousand years Ed Boon wasting any part of his budget on outside help that knows nothing about what it takes to bring one of these video games to life. These video games cost more to produce then a major summer blockbuster. Netherrealm strives to make designs that resonate with gamers and will stand the test of time. Fashions come and go, and those fashion designers do not work cheap.
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DistraughtOverlord
08/29/2013 07:39 PM (UTC)
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As i like some Mangas, screw the Professional fashion designers. I'd prefer having the guys who used to work on the Sailor Moon series to inspire stuff for MK in terms of look.

Sailor Moon was a striking little blonde, Sonya is the only one at the moment, with lots of powers. And the violence and outfits for that series were all really flashy but classy. And the sailor scouts are all dressed up like school girls in uniform but there's nothing too nerdy with designing a cartoon compared to a video game. Nothing trashy at all. NRS should really think about hiring some of them guys.
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legoslayer10
08/30/2013 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Yan know, hanky, I've come to think that you don't even read 80% of posts directed at you unless they sound good from the beginning. Well, that's your problem ere.

We sit and give you hundreds of reasons why you ideas are bad. And yet, you just keep enforcing them like they work well with MK.

Well, even though you won't read it, I'll give you the reasons why top fashion designers would never, E-E-E-E-E-E-E-EVER, be good in MK.


1. MK has no relation to fashion.
Fashion is a set of trends that only last so long. It's inconsistent to what it was 20 years ago. MK has had a pretty consistent, ORIENTAL, look for 20 years and is still going strong.

2. The look relating to character models.
See, if you put Kitana in a long, flowing dress, there's much less movement allowed and it would get too much in the way during kombat. No woman in the right mind would purposely wear that to battle when you could be in form-fitting spandex, whether it adds sexuality or not, it works well to the character.

3. Hair styles SUCK TO ANIMATE.
Ask any animator. OR any sprite artist. They can tell you that hair is the worst thing in designing anything digitally. It's so hard to get hair to flow evenly. Every single strand of hair has to be set evenly. Every one of the thousands. And what is big in fashion? Hairstyles. The hair has to compliment the outfit. What happens when you get a crazy hairstyle that has to be placed into a game? It sucks to develop.

4. Opposites don't always attract.
Fashion designers make outfits that are supposed to look good at awards shows and runways. NRS designs costumes to look battle-ready and epic for a good fight. Those don't correlate well in any way.

End-of-story.
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Icebaby
08/30/2013 06:03 AM (UTC)
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Ignorance leaves you nowhere, Noobsmoke_Mk... I mean Muhammad... I mean Hankypanky... whatever the hell your user name is. Your trolling behavior isn't cute anymore on this or the other site you're apart of, and to be honest... it's really start to aggravate me a lot more than usual and for some reason I don't know why internet crap like this is bugging me. But what the heck, since I'm half awake, might as well let the real bitchiness come out.

You go on two different fan sites posting the same shit, literally the same shit, with everyone saying the same thing to you. Does it kind of get to you that you're just seen as some internet troll who most think that you may not have a life outside of this? That you go on as many video game forums and do the same thing over and over again? I mean, don't you have other things to do rather than just... go on as many forums as you can and just post the same thing over and over again and hope to get a response like this from other people? Or is your ignorance that big to where you just ignore it and carry on like it's no big deal?

What is also sad is that some people really do have good ideas to post, that's what fan sites gives people a chance to offer, and yet people like you come in and just... take the damn fun away from people. Posting every single freaking idea like we really give a damn about it, but the problem is that no one does... when it comes to ideas from yours. Most of the time, people who are giving ideas in your threads, have literally thrown the topic off of yours and onto theirs, your topic serves no point other than just blatant annoyance. And when other people finally do have an idea to give out, their threads don't get seen a lot because you have like eight different threads going on, each with some random thought in your head. Okay Bill Engvall, we get it, you like to think random thoughts a lot.

There's always going to be internet trolls, there's always going to be that jerk that reminds people to not feed the trolls. You guys could do the favor and just stop wasting your life posting stupid shit like this and go out and... I don't know... I guess go get one of those perfect "platinum blondes" you keep bragging about.

Since we all know how much you love them platinum blondes. I need to go to bed now.
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Icebaby
08/30/2013 02:16 PM (UTC)
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Woo, look what I wrote while being half awake. Some things I tell you...
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hankypanky1
08/30/2013 02:58 PM (UTC)
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DistraughtOverlord
08/30/2013 03:11 PM (UTC)
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Hum, but it's a fact that blue eyes are way more striking and sexier than blonde hair Icebaby. And in all these fashion shows, the only thing that really stands out if you put nine blondes and a brunette, is the brunette. 10 blondes? Nothing particurlarly great, even though they might all be beautiful. 10 Brunettes? Immediately one always stands out, or 2 or3 to everyone watching even if they're not experts in the fashion clothes.

Europeans aren't all that great at fashion designing only because the media say so. They become big when they have the means 2. And pay the right people. It's not how many fans you have that makes you great, it's the quality of those people that are fans. I don't care 4 fans that would eat their model's shit if he/she asked them to do so. That is pathetic.

The Japanese have the most original, best ways of working and greatest costumes designing in the world imo. Even though i kind of think some of them are really weird.

And NRS should probably hire the guys who made the movie Avatar. Not my favorite movie but have you guys seen the look of this? This is crazy, now THIS IS creating in the multimedia.
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legoslayer10
08/30/2013 04:21 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
The costume designs showcases European fashion.

So what? That doesn't mean anything if it's European. And it's fashion, not fighting, those people work on. Last I checked, warriors, gods, and monks did not care what they looked like going into battle. Europeans WILL NOT be better at doing his than Americans, and fashion designers DEFINETELY will NOT do better than actual video game designers. Get that into your skull, PLEASE!

hankypanky1 Wrote:
And we all know European are better designers in the fashion world.

No, we don't. Because they aren't. There is absolutely NO proof supporting you here in a question PURELY ABOUT OPINION.

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That's a fact. Documented on many studies.

No, it isn't. IT IS NOT PROVEN. It's not a fact if it's a question all about opinions. Your opinions are not facts.

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Heck there's even some American fashion thrown in the document. The stuff here is not dressed.

Everything in this little section makes no sense. There is American Fashion thrown randomly into a document trying to prove that European fashion is superior? Wouldn't that possibly, oh, I don't know, SWAY THE RESULTS! The stuff there is not dressed? What does that even mean! Really, at least explain yourself!

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Take a look at yhe doc before u post ur opinion. Otherwise don't bother.
The document supports nothing. I only nother in hopes that you'll actually understand that you're being irrelevant and pointless, knowing I won't be able to sway your mindset because the stupid "facts"

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Don't judge a book by its cover. Look what's inside.

Says the person who thinks because somebody is blonde, blue-eyed, or Swedish is instantly more creative than anyone else.

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Low iq Americans.

At least we're using correct grammar.
Really, you're calling us low I.Q. when you're not even using correct capitalization OR spelling.
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DistraughtOverlord
08/30/2013 06:28 PM (UTC)
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Isn't the mission of all documents/documentaries or whatever they're called to inform? Not to prove or judge based on any pre-made objection? I've been schooled with documents, never taken them as any proof of anything though.
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08/30/2013 11:28 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby
08/31/2013 12:57 AM (UTC)
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Clubs are filled with Jersey Shore wannabes and creeps.
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08/31/2013 05:40 AM (UTC)
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Hankypanky, sorry but you're the only one that thinks putting fashion in MK is a good idea. We're on page two of telling you why your ideas simply won't work. Not only have you once insulted the developers of this game once by calling them nerds. But now you're insulting the intelligence of the country that most of them hail from.

MK for the first time in years is being recognized world wide as a serious contender in the fighting game genre. And while we appreciate all opinions from all people, your idea was too radical of a departure for the series and would alienate it's fans. All the things you want changed are some of the many things that we all love in this game.

This is all becoming horribly redundant. In fact I just deleted two whole paragraphs because myself and several others have made these points over and over. Ladies and Gentlemen, lets simply not post in this thread anymore. Or may I make a better suggestion and ask that this thread be closed since it has done nothing but serve as a massive insult to the game, it's developer's, this website, it's staff and it's users.
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legoslayer10
08/31/2013 10:12 AM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Don't care what he says.

Certainly seems that you don't care when you respond to me almost every time. Need Proof?
Look at the name of this thread- in MY CURRENT post. That's what I set it as because that's all this thread is-
Rants From A Pointless Troll who's mad because he can't change a video game to one perfect for HIM.

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His underage anyway.

I have an Intelligence Quotia, I.Q if you don't understand that, of 152. Don't see why you're judging based on age. Grammar alone would prove otherwise. My maturity is not the issue here, either, and if you've ever been inside a High School in modern days, you'd know how mature I am compared to 80% of the roster.

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He cant do things like going to bars and clubs.

Just helps me make sure my 152 doesn't drop. And why would I want to go to anything like that? I'm not some guy who can't stick with a girl more than a single night. Why would anybody like me need to go to a bar/club filled with greaseball men and drunk-off-their-ass women when we could look for a girl who has a half-decent sense of maturity. Looks aren't everything, man. And, just so you know, there's not many good clubs in Ohio. We're not like that stupid Jersey Shore crap you see on TV.


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What's he gonna know about fashion.
Have you not read anything I post at all? Come on, man, actually read them, maybe you'll learn something. Like that I KNOW MY FASHION. Trust me, I do more than watch Fashion Police like you.





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DistraughtOverlord
08/31/2013 01:23 PM (UTC)
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What makes fashion designers so great at first isn't a proof of anything. No serious studies were ever done. Celebrities and models are simply paid to wear them. As medias are paid to interview a celebrity paid to say Gucci, Victoria Secrets or even Pepsi Rocks.

Make me one of the most seen faces in the media, and all of a sudden i'll be asked from a lot of companies to promote their stuff. Sure i'd wear their shit if i was getting celebrities paychecks to wear them.

I would love for NRS to try and hire Angela Gossow. A striking blonde from Swedish metal band Arch Enemy. Think she was going to write a book about females in rock music and also THINK that she made some of her own clothes herself. I could be wrong about that. I should re-check this. But one thing is for sure, she's really creative! And one of metal's most influent women. She's a real class act!
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hankypanky1
09/08/2013 10:03 PM (UTC)
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legoslayer10
09/09/2013 01:34 AM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
The document has classy and stylish designs. If u like tomb raider lara croft sweet and sexy outfits that are modest. Then that's the kind of stuff inside doc.
Lara Croft, SWEET and sexy? Bullshit! Lara Croft is specifially designed to have knockers that would KILL on the backs of real women. She is not designed to be sweet, and her games are definetely not sweet.

Really, star thinking about what you say if you're going to say it.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
09/10/2013 04:02 AM (UTC)
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Dynamic Weather is the one thing MK could certainly benefit from. Especially with MK10 which will no doubt be on next-gen consoles. And with next-gen focusing on making games more believable I think that's something MK should definitely try to incorporate.
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Skaven13
09/11/2013 05:26 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Woo, look what I wrote while being half awake. Some things I tell you...


Yikes, I haven't seen a good Icey rant in a while (would have been amusing in the form of one of your "my reaction to" videos). This thread has served its purpose. Thanks, Hanky. Or whoever you are.

By the way, I kinda agree with the title. Would love to see less trash in the next MK. It's what I really hated about this one. Trash and skin for the sake of, well, trash and skin, and forget character.
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Skaven13
09/11/2013 04:22 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Dynamic Weather is the one thing MK could certainly benefit from. Especially with MK10 which will no doubt be on next-gen consoles. And with next-gen focusing on making games more believable I think that's something MK should definitely try to incorporate.


I agree. And it would be just in time as well, if they decide to include the stage where you were fighting in the rain in MK4 (yeah, actually forgot the name of that one).
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KungLaodoesntsuck
09/11/2013 06:00 PM (UTC)
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Another valid suggestion was Online Practice Mode.

Injustice has one and MK could sure use one. It is basically a guarantee at this point but still. Couldn't hurt.

The Matchmaking suggestion could work, if there was actual ranks. But they don't have ranks in MK, just points. So if they were to continue using points they could have you fight players based around similar point rankings. So that is another valid suggestion.

And I don't know why people are acting like MK has great costumes. They're shit okay? I'm not saying they should wear designer clothes because that is a terrible idea. But MK has horrible sense when it comes to character appearance. Some costumes are great but some are just terrible. All the women's clothing is trash. So I thing SOMETHING should be done about that, but not turn them into fashionistas. Just give them clothes that don't have them totally exposed and represent their character.
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Skaven13
09/11/2013 07:28 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Another valid suggestion was Online Practice Mode.

Injustice has one and MK could sure use one. It is basically a guarantee at this point but still. Couldn't hurt.

The Matchmaking suggestion could work, if there was actual ranks. But they don't have ranks in MK, just points. So if they were to continue using points they could have you fight players based around similar point rankings. So that is another valid suggestion.

And I don't know why people are acting like MK has great costumes. They're shit okay? I'm not saying they should wear designer clothes because that is a terrible idea. But MK has horrible sense when it comes to character appearance. Some costumes are great but some are just terrible. All the women's clothing is trash. So I thing SOMETHING should be done about that, but not turn them into fashionistas. Just give them clothes that don't have them totally exposed and represent their character.


You know, I got stepped on whenever I mentioned how disappointed with the costumes I was in this past MK. People would always go to the extreme side of the arguement. I stated I would prefer the women wearing more clothing, and people would post pictures of people in potato sacks asking if that was enough clothing. Well, no, but how about Kitana in MKDA? Tanya in MKD? Kira? To me, the character design, whether costume, or even personality, were excellent in the MKDA and MKD era, and really started to move the character designs forward. Then came MK 2011. Basically when it came to females, all we were given in this were bikinis with loincloths and we were supposed to swallow it as excellence in design. It wasn't. It was character destroyed by the concept of eye candy. And as a writer, a creator of characters of my own, that is heartbreaking to see.

And don't get me started on the over-use of the Scorpion motif on our favorite yellow ninja spectre.

It doesn't need to be a "fashion show". But intricate design coupled with character that fits the atmosphere would be nice.
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hankypanky1
09/24/2013 06:03 PM (UTC)
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