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04/08/2015 10:57 PM (UTC)
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What kind of fanfiction nightmare has NRS started?


That's what a lot of this feels like to me. Instead of creating actual new characters, they're turning fan fics into reality so they can please the fans. That's what this all feels like, fan service. Keep all the old favorites in, discard the lesser popular characters, and add in the characters everyone has already imagined, like Skarlet, Tremor, and the child of Johnny and Sonya.

As I said before, I was totally fine with Johnny and Sonya having a kid but that was the extent of it. To me, by having a slew of other kid characters, it over saturates things. Now everyone will want to see the spawn of [insert character] and [insert character].

Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah, Ferra/Torr, and Erron Black were the kind of "new characters" I had in mind before all the reveals. Not [insert Trilogy character]'s kid and [insert other Trilogy character]'s nephew or whatever. It just makes me feel like NRS is being too safe by bridging the gap between old characters and legitimately new characters. I wonder if they'll even bring back D'Vorah or Ferra/Torr or just throw them in the dumpster along with Drahmin and Kai and other post-Trilogy characters. To make way for Kitana 2.0 and Liu Kang 2.0. They might as well make Kid Thunder a real character.


It's getting out of hand. It took me MONTHS to come to terms with "Cassie Cage", she just seemed like a character one of the developers 8 year old daughter came up with on a sugar high. Thankfully, I like Cassie overall so I can forgive her. Takeda is pushing it but I love his story and the fact that he is Kenshi's son but was raised by Scorpion adds a lot of depth to him than most characters in MK. But Kung-Jin and Jaqui however(though I like them too) are just over the top.

Now people are asking for a daughter for Kano and a son for Liu/Kitana, when will it end? Would not surprise me if MK11's cast ends up something like this-

Cassie Cage
Jaqui Briggs
Takeda
Kung-Jin
Sonya
Johnny
Jax
Kung-Lao
Kenshi
Tremor
Skarlet
Krome
Hydro
Kano
Kano's daughter
Kitana
Liu Kang
Liu/Kitana's son
Raiden's Son

We need to kill the "Fan" characters AND offspring before this goes haywire.

It kinda did already...still bitter about Tremor beating out Fujin and others for a DLC spot.
Well considering what happens to Liu and Kitana they won't be making way for their kid.

They'll be making way for them.
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04/08/2015 11:16 PM (UTC)
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I want Quan Chi and Shinnok to have a bastard child named Rich Homie Quan Shi


I made this a while back tongue

http://i62.tinypic.com/20ijiav.png
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04/08/2015 11:43 PM (UTC)
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Well if it all bothers you all that much about it. Just have one more offspring and that's it. And more new characters shall join the side of good &/ evil.
Alongside Takeda, Cassie, Jacqui and Kung Jin...I'd want to see

1. A descendant of Reptile/Khameleon that's not Reptile 2.0
How bout a Saurian fighting on the side of good for once?

2. Frost (Because why not?)

3. A Descendant of Baraka or a New Tarkatan on the side of evil.
Preferably a cocky young upstart with more agile moves.

4. Fujin because fuck Raiden I am tired of his garbage.

5. Kai but older because of the timeskip and with that Capoeira idea. One of the more spiritual members of the shaolin compared to Kung Jin.


And that's enough for me.
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04/09/2015 01:47 AM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I want Quan Chi and Shinnok to have a bastard child named Rich Homie Quan Shi


I made this a while back tongue

http://i62.tinypic.com/20ijiav.png

Lmao Nice
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04/09/2015 02:09 AM (UTC)
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Ion3008 Wrote:
Alongside Takeda, Cassie, Jacqui and Kung Jin...I'd want to see

1. A descendant of Reptile/Khameleon that's not Reptile 2.0
How bout a Saurian fighting on the side of good for once?

2. Frost (Because why not?)

3. A Descendant of Baraka or a New Tarkatan on the side of evil.
Preferably a cocky young upstart with more agile moves.

4. Fujin because fuck Raiden I am tired of his garbage.

5. Kai but older because of the timeskip and with that Capoeira idea. One of the more spiritual members of the shaolin compared to Kung Jin.


And that's enough for me.


A new Saurian who is a hero would be nice. I can some "PIccolo" in this one.

Fujin deserves to take Raiden's spot.
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04/09/2015 02:12 AM (UTC)
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NS922 Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
I want Quan Chi and Shinnok to have a bastard child named Rich Homie Quan Shi


I made this a while back tongue

http://i62.tinypic.com/20ijiav.png


Lmao I have been waiting forever for someone to make something with Rich Homie Qaun Chi, for a while there I didn't think it would happen lol
Cassie Cage sounds like something out of a horrible fan-fiction, especially her snarky, in-your-face attitude and hip modern sensibilities -

but they actually somehow took all of that and made her a funny, cool character, so props to them. Takeda, Jacqui, and Jin are all pretty cool too. I think the Teen Titans are the best of our newcomers this time around.

I wouldn't mind another descendant but it should be a villain next time or a time traveller. Another leap into the far future would be a little repetitive.
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04/09/2015 02:21 AM (UTC)
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It's almost like no one noticed that family members, apprentices, and successors have been in Mortal Kombat for a long time. We've had brothers and sisters and parents before, Kabal had apprentices in the new Black Dragon. The only new thing that happened in MKX is that people had kids during the story, instead of in the background.
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It's almost like no one noticed that family members, apprentices, and successors have been in Mortal Kombat for a long time. We've had brothers and sisters and parents before, Kabal had apprentices in the new Black Dragon. The only new thing that happened in MKX is that people had kids during the story, instead of in the background.


Yeah but none of the characters have ever had the chance of having Johnny Cage or Jax as a father-in-law before.
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04/09/2015 02:41 AM (UTC)
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I always wondered from that Beetle Lair description in MK Deception what that Death Knight business was all about. He was supposed to be a powerful warrior demigod worshipped in the Beetle Lair up in the Lei Chen Mountains. They don't have to create a new character out of thin air is what I am saying.
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04/09/2015 04:07 PM (UTC)
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We don't need a new Bruce Lee. Liu's and Kitana's kid can be like Tony Jaa.
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04/09/2015 06:48 PM (UTC)
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krajax Wrote:
I always wondered from that Beetle Lair description in MK Deception what that Death Knight business was all about. He was supposed to be a powerful warrior demigod worshipped in the Beetle Lair up in the Lei Chen Mountains. They don't have to create a new character out of thin air is what I am saying.


They've got more than enough ammo to create interesting characters. We've still never had a Courtyard Guard, a Shadow Priest, any other named Tarkatan, anyone else from the Chaosrealm, and the list goes on. We've seen these people since the beginning of MK's time so if they make one of them an official character, it'll be something we're used to seeing, so it'll be easier to accept as a new character. No one could say "This character doesn't belong in MK".

They've got so much potential for new characters that I have no idea why it would be so necessary for them to make half the new characters descendants. I don't know why they make a character like Erron Black who is an uninspired generic cowboy when they have all this unused MK lore to build off of.
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04/09/2015 07:09 PM (UTC)
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umbrascitor Wrote:
It's almost like no one noticed that family members, apprentices, and successors have been in Mortal Kombat for a long time. We've had brothers and sisters and parents before, Kabal had apprentices in the new Black Dragon. The only new thing that happened in MKX is that people had kids during the story, instead of in the background.


Yes, and four of those kids is quite enough. We don't need any more offspring introduced in the next game, which is the point of the topic. Family members have been introduced in past games, but not all in one giant batch.

The introduction of four offspring in this game opens the floodgates to threads like this- people wanting to see more offspring in the next game. Cassie and Takeda are solid characters and feel the most "vital", Kung-Jin and Jaqui however both feel like they were created just so Cassie & Takeda could have two other partners for a team of four.

The fact of the matter is NRS could get lazy with this while other interesting non-offspring new characters like Kotal Kahn & D'Vora become a rarity.

I have no problem however with more apprentices and successors though- as a matter of fact a good few of the 3D era characters could be re-worked into some of those roles. Kai for an older Shaolin who bonds with and leads Kung-Jin and maybe Khameleon for those who keep wanting a new saurian, she's ripe with potential and has had a great story for decades.

But dear God, no more children.
No way fuck Khameleon and I was for her a couple years ago. But over Reptile?

That's like replacing Sub-Zero with Frost.

Either A Saurian descendant or Reptile himself.
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04/09/2015 09:06 PM (UTC)
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MKX has four offsprings. So I think just two more will be enough anyway.

My character who has come from the future to save his family and the remaining revenants. And a prophecy that must be prevented.

If there is a Saurian descendant of Reptile, I'm for that. In fact, this one is from the same future as my character.

They can join the new SF.
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04/09/2015 09:09 PM (UTC)
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Thanks, but I think we have enough Special Forces characters.
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04/09/2015 09:10 PM (UTC)
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Thanks, but I think we have enough Special Forces characters.


Okay then. At least my character will go solo but will help the new SF. The saurian will join him in his quest.
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04/10/2015 06:35 AM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Will we get more to join for the next game?

I can imagine Johnny, Sonya, Jax & Kenshi sitting on the sidelines letting their children along with Kung Jin take over.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Liu & Kitana must have their own offspring join in.

In my view, it'll be someone who's like Trunks with a mix of the Prince of Persia, who has traveled to the past to stop a disastrous future which involves Onaga's return.

In order to do so to stop him and his "acolytes", he gets the new generation of the past to help him restore all those killed in the Outworld invasion back to life along with his parents.

Nightwolf and the others are easy. Except his parents & Kung Lao will be tough in his fight with them.


I'd probably go for a female Earthrealm/Edenian hybrid with an unknown parentage with amnesia who doesn't remember anything about her past after awakening in Outworld (possible successful Flesh Pit experiment, came from the old timeline, mortal weapon molded by the gods, the possibilities are endless). I honestly think it's much more interesting. I could see her as more of an adaptive fighter using martial arts and technology from various races such as the Moroi vampire races and the Saurian people to add more insightful in those two overlooked races plus some training under Bo' Rai Cho.
-Can be close allies to Nitara, Khameleon, Li Mei
-Signature weapons can be sickles.
-Her appearance and personality can be somewhat of a Cassandra Cain/X-23/Yoruichi Shihōin mix.
-Powers unknown at present.
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04/10/2015 09:13 AM (UTC)
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Spoilers : s'onaK nos sraeppa ni sih gnidne

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04/10/2015 01:25 PM (UTC)
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No. None of this.

The only business I want to hear of descendants is the death of two of the new ones we've already got.

I seriously don't understand the clamoring for NEW NEW NEW. Look at all the NEW we just got. Isn't it enough? We get all of this new crap and then look at all the fundamental old we are missing (Noob, Fujin, Cyrax, and Tanya).

Balance the new with the old. We've literally got enough new shit to build on for two games here.
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04/10/2015 03:46 PM (UTC)
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krajax Wrote:
Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Will we get more to join for the next game?

I can imagine Johnny, Sonya, Jax & Kenshi sitting on the sidelines letting their children along with Kung Jin take over.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Liu & Kitana must have their own offspring join in.

In my view, it'll be someone who's like Trunks with a mix of the Prince of Persia, who has traveled to the past to stop a disastrous future which involves Onaga's return.

In order to do so to stop him and his "acolytes", he gets the new generation of the past to help him restore all those killed in the Outworld invasion back to life along with his parents.

Nightwolf and the others are easy. Except his parents & Kung Lao will be tough in his fight with them.


I'd probably go for a female Earthrealm/Edenian hybrid with an unknown parentage with amnesia who doesn't remember anything about her past after awakening in Outworld (possible successful Flesh Pit experiment, came from the old timeline, mortal weapon molded by the gods, the possibilities are endless). I honestly think it's much more interesting. I could see her as more of an adaptive fighter using martial arts and technology from various races such as the Moroi vampire races and the Saurian people to add more insightful in those two overlooked races plus some training under Bo' Rai Cho.
-Can be close allies to Nitara, Khameleon, Li Mei
-Signature weapons can be sickles.
-Her appearance and personality can be somewhat of a Cassandra Cain/X-23/Yoruichi Shihōin mix.
-Powers unknown at present.


Well for mine its still gonna be a guy
- A new prince of Edenia from Liu & Kitana
His parents were slaughtered by Onaga's acolytes who are preparing for his return. Raiden (who is still dark) scars (half) the prince's face. Feeling a little trained in kombat, Fujin and the new generation send him to Earthrealm's Thailand to be trained in muay thai. Once he was ready, he was told to slay Raiden and take some of godlike essence. Gaining this, he was given a crystal that will allow him to travel through time to the past. To this, he has one mission: save the remaining revenants and prevent Onaga's rebirth from happening. He is the only hope for the new generation to rise and the old to live a little longer till their time of death truly comes.
- His appearance: Trunks, Prince of Persia & Tony Jaa from Ong Bak
- Powers: light fire and time control
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04/10/2015 11:10 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
umbrascitor Wrote:
It's almost like no one noticed that family members, apprentices, and successors have been in Mortal Kombat for a long time. We've had brothers and sisters and parents before, Kabal had apprentices in the new Black Dragon. The only new thing that happened in MKX is that people had kids during the story, instead of in the background.


[....] The introduction of four offspring in this game opens the floodgates to threads like this- people wanting to see more offspring in the next game.


I think you mean three offspring, because Kung Jin is a cousin. Only three children cropping up over a 25-year span seems reasonable, if not less than reasonable.

People have made fan characters of kids, siblings, parents, cousins, whatever since forever. Not much has changed on that front. Hell, people were shitting themselves over the idea of a third Sub-Zero brother months ago, and I don't remember any people complaining about "Oh god, MK doesn't need another brother in the series."

If they do come out with more descendants next game, I sure hope too many people don't immediately put them down just for being someone's kid.
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04/11/2015 03:22 AM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
krajax Wrote:
Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Will we get more to join for the next game?

I can imagine Johnny, Sonya, Jax & Kenshi sitting on the sidelines letting their children along with Kung Jin take over.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Liu & Kitana must have their own offspring join in.

In my view, it'll be someone who's like Trunks with a mix of the Prince of Persia, who has traveled to the past to stop a disastrous future which involves Onaga's return.

In order to do so to stop him and his "acolytes", he gets the new generation of the past to help him restore all those killed in the Outworld invasion back to life along with his parents.

Nightwolf and the others are easy. Except his parents & Kung Lao will be tough in his fight with them.


I'd probably go for a female Earthrealm/Edenian hybrid with an unknown parentage with amnesia who doesn't remember anything about her past after awakening in Outworld (possible successful Flesh Pit experiment, came from the old timeline, mortal weapon molded by the gods, the possibilities are endless). I honestly think it's much more interesting. I could see her as more of an adaptive fighter using martial arts and technology from various races such as the Moroi vampire races and the Saurian people to add more insightful in those two overlooked races plus some training under Bo' Rai Cho.
-Can be close allies to Nitara, Khameleon, Li Mei
-Signature weapons can be sickles.
-Her appearance and personality can be somewhat of a Cassandra Cain/X-23/Yoruichi Shihōin mix.
-Powers unknown at present.


Well for mine its still gonna be a guy
- A new prince of Edenia from Liu & Kitana
His parents were slaughtered by Onaga's acolytes who are preparing for his return. Raiden (who is still dark) scars (half) the prince's face. Feeling a little trained in kombat, Fujin and the new generation send him to Earthrealm's Thailand to be trained in muay thai. Once he was ready, he was told to slay Raiden and take some of godlike essence. Gaining this, he was given a crystal that will allow him to travel through time to the past. To this, he has one mission: save the remaining revenants and prevent Onaga's rebirth from happening. He is the only hope for the new generation to rise and the old to live a little longer till their time of death truly comes.
- His appearance: Trunks, Prince of Persia & Tony Jaa from Ong Bak
- Powers: light fire and time control


I think we can incorporate both in an MK11 fan fiction somehow lol
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