Doesn't make them incomplete, but I see no reason as to why not to provide alternate costumes for them. They have fatalities, X-Rays, intros, endings and everything else as the default characters, so why not alternates?

I mean with the guests characters its understandable, they may have to shelve out more money to use another look for a guest character's alt- But their own characters? I see no reason why Tanya/Tremor/Bo and Rain/Skarlet/Kenshi from MK9 had zero alternates.

I guess it was wishful thinking that someone from NRS would check the MK boards from time to time and see what fans had to say before deciding their DLC. It's good that you wrote the letter Kenshi, do you have someone to send it to? This Brian Chard seems to have taken over in the publicity department, so maybe he would listen.

First off, Im tired of users on this site portraying poor whittle NRS doing their gosh darnest to please everybody and spread happiness only to get it thrown back in their face by their no good, immature, swear word using fanbase. NRS is a huge company with God knows how many employees that has been around for decades raking in millions and millions of dollars and it would be absolutely ridiculous if a dev checked a random forum post and got personally offended by a "ZOMG LETHERFACE??!?11 FUK YOU NRS!!!11" post. Even if that particular dev had actually been part of the group that designed letherface, it is beyond childish to think he/she would take offense over some random person on the internet not liking what they were hired and paid to do. The whole idea that NRS just slaves away their time and resources for an ungrateful fan base is retarded and only perpetuated by butthurt fanboys who can't stand for MK to be trashed. MKX was one of the best selling games of the year, and the franchise as a whole has done very well over the past 20 plus years which is the soul reason they keep making these games. If I, an almost lifelong consumer, feel like venting on a public forum because I am disappointed with it I have every right to do so. And fuck being civil, this is the internet. KP2 is shit so I'm calling it shit.

As for the letter, I liked it and I agree with it, I feel like Kenshi did a good job of not just hating on the game and I could tell it was written by someone who does love the series. That said I wish it shitted on Tri-Borg just a lil bit more but thats my personal bias and a pretty minor gripe. Tri-Borg is not an original character, NRS completely pulled him out of their ass for this KP. I really liked that you talked about how KP2 doesn't target the core fans, the ones most likely to keep playing and supporting the game BECAUSE THEY LOVE MK, not because they casually enjoyed a few horror movies. Not to mention Street Fight doesn't put fucking horror icons on their roster because they make the game for fans of Street Fighter. NRS should for sure take note.

Also, the biggest flaw with the letter is it doesn't address the netcode, but I realize that might have been out of place within the content of the letter. Especially because its something that NRS cannot fix until the the next game comes out. To me tho the netcode is the biggest reason I will wait on purchasing any future NRS titles and will not be purchasing KP2 (even if it had been good).

Alsso booN gave us Temor and shitty Tanya + they redisgned it for the 3 fans he has and whined all around the net. You act really ungrateful, cuz they usage in game is bellow bottom, but yet NRS gave. Now everybody hating on them for sucky Fujin. I relate to you. I whined about Noob but what the hell ? You act like 5yo kids. Just stop and support the great game MK is. NRS does think us even if we are so few compared to regulars users.

Support the game so we can have them making it until we are alive. Imagine how wold MK looks in Project Morpheus, and next gen consoles etc...If they make money they'll give us more and more. But still they're making $ and if 100 people "won't buy" the pack that is nothing. Yeah, I know you'll buy it because Bo is awesome, Cyborg is mega awesome, Alien is awesome and Leather-Face is hilarious!

1) You clearly didn't read the entire thing or didn't understand the point of it as I said in my letter, and I quote, "This is ultimately your franchise, and you can run it as you see fit." I was merely stating what I'm not happy with as I have a right to do. If you don't like it, well, that sucks for you. Don't read it then. it wasn't intended for you in the first place.

2) Fujin was the most requested character for this game post launch. Hands down, no discussion. If you think differently, well, don't know what to tell ya. However, clearly I'm not going to ramble on and on about every single character that deserves a spot. I just used the ones who were connected to MKX's story mode as examples because that's the primary direction NRS seemingly picked when choosing characters (i.e. Tanya and Bo').

3) I only said "hundreds of dollars" because clearly I don't have all the time in the world to pile up every Mortal Kombat related item I've ever bought and figure out how much money I've tossed at them in my lifetime, nor do I want to gloat about it anyway as it's not the point of my blog.

Maybe I should find a better term than 'incomplete', but honestly I just can't think of one. How else do you describe something that is lacking a part/piece that it clearly should have?

Every other character has one base costume and an alternate. They gave all the DLC characters intros, fatalities (two), Brutalities (five), x-rays, and all of the basic features that every other character has. Why don't they have alternates?



100% agree with this. NRS is a company. They are out to make money, and at times they may or may not neglect consumers. Their job is to produce a product that people want, the consumers job is then to support or deny that product. Reviewers do the same shit, EXCEPT we no longer can trust them because they make money from companies to support their products.

Its almost like some people think we should just hand money to NRS, let them hand us their shit, and then tell them how awesome they are because they broke a sweat trying to shit it out.

I'll echo those who feel that DLC characters feel somewhat incomplete without alternative costumes. That's one of the reasons I didn't buy Tremor, and I'm disappointed Goro - who is on the disc! - doesn't have one.

I do think it is likely we will get a brown UMK3 costume for Tremor, to match the other ninjas.

I wonder what the free compatibility costumes in KP2 will be...

My wet dream is of MK2/MKSM flesh-toned Reptile. He can even keep the scales, just make it flesh tone like MKSMs P2 colors.

Although, multiple free skins for new characters would be fantastic as well.

I love you.

Nobody wanted guests. At least not 4 of them.

Well Tekken 7 just got Akuma. That's how you do guest characters.

I'm glad someone made a well written letter and I really hope that it gets NRS, WB attention. The only thing that will matter to them is how much KP2 actually sells and those sales figures will be considered in future kombat packs and future games. I honestly hope it sells horribly to bite them in the ass.

They should just make a horror fighting game so their hard on for horror characters goes away and we can have our story rich MK characters who well deserved their spots in an MK game.

I think NRS needs to look at this and offer Fujin and another MK kharacter as stand alone dlc or at a discount if they buy the kombat pack. I dont mind guest but leatherface makes no sense. Alien i can see because of predator already being in and they should of carried freddy over to be included with jason. And I think they could even copy n paste stages from mk9 n put them in n people would be happy. Stages are severely lacking in MKX.

Perfect choice for a guest. He's a solid character that while from Street Fighter, also fits into the Tekken world, not to mention Street Fighter and Tekken have crossed over before. So that's a nice and safe guest option.

And I bet you he will be the only one.

Ultimately, (sadly) this issue probably won't concern me. I'm excluded because i don't have MKX or the appropriate console, (but I did just get a smartphone, so i might be able to get the mobile version if nothing else), but i do have an opinion on a franchise like you, Kenshi dude, have been involved with for many years.

I like the letter, it's mature and reasonable. There are about three minor grammatical errors which bug me, and i can go over that if you wish.

Totally agreed that, even pre-launch for MKX, the likes of Fujin (and Tanya) were the most requested characters from what I saw here.

The one point you didn't make incredibly clear is how odd and offputting it is to have not just a large volume of guest characters, but those specifically from horror films.

Let's look briefly at all the crossovers:

MKvsDC. A horrible idea that was ultimately executed really really well. The toned-down violence didn't take away from my enjoyment of the content, as ultimately it was the partnership that led to MK's revitalisation (in terms of financial stability, gameplay mechanics, and creative control). Also the major point to make there is it was explicitly non-canon from the outset.

MK9. Freddy. WB wanted their character in, and Freddy has enough notoriety among casuals and hardcore fans, not to mention a violent and quasi-etherial backstory. I can see why he fit the bill in MK. Kratos. Sadly, I've never had the chance to use him because of that whole console exclusive BS, but he also has a suitable backstory mythology as well as a penchant for ultra-violence. Why is it he is the only guest in this game franchise from another game franchise? Surely game characters translate easier into other games than film characters?
IGAU: Scorpion's inclusion here is obvious. He's NRS's mascot and his inclusion works as a cheeky reference to MKvsDC. Still, only one guest character means the game was not saturated with them or affected too much by his appearance.
MKX. Jason. OK, first there was Freddy, now there's Jason. AND Predator? AND Leatherface? AND a Xenotarkatamorph hybrid fuck-up? TOO MUCH NON-CANON is my problem with the amount here, and why are they all from films? It feels like a clusterfuck to say the least, exactly who is promoting whom? MK9 had two guests from different sources, so variety. DC universe speaks for itself as far as the theme goes, and even then, Dark Kahn made more sense in context than Barakalien (WTF do i call this?). This marketing decision just doesn't make much sense. Worse, it speaks for the cash-grab mentality driving these decisions. I can't get too soap-box lecture-y about the crassness of consumerism, because that would make me a hypocrite. But if a company decides to make a product with the intention of selling units rather than producing the best quality it can, it becomes obvious and transparent, as well as distasteful to those fans who have come to expect and appreciate good quality.

One other thing i remember is last night i went on youtube and found a few reaction videos. They all praised these character inclusions, i can't understand why. Even so, my point is a video conveys a message easier than a letter, so maybe that would be worth considering if it's an option for you. If NRS is looking for feedback, where do you think they'll start? A few videos (from the casual minority) or walls of text not unlike this post (apologies for that).

I disagree with that actually. Bringing in a character from another fighting game seems uninspired to me. With characters like Predator and Alien there are many different things you can bring in to make them very unique. Even Jason and Leatherface makes NRS use their creativity and come up with ideas to make these characters represent their counterparts while being functional in gameplay. Other fighting game characters will pretty much just be like they are in their own game but balanced differently.

I agree with the guy above me. Its easy brong over an already completely developed fighting game character in your game and give him the same moves and stuff, bringing in a character thats never been in a fighter calls for much more creativity and imagination.

Don't get me wrong tho, I like Akuma in T7, ill probably main him lol

Akuma in Tekken 7 is a bit different though. Him being in Tekken means he'll get a lot more moves. Plus he's apparently canon, which is stupid.

And I dunno about you, but I'd MUCH rather take a fighting game character guest over these stupid horror movie characters we keep getting. I firmly believe Kratos was the best guest because he makes the most sense. He's not just ultra violent, but his games are all about magic and gods. Plus he can hold his own in a fight, he's not a slasher but a warrior.

If MK having guests is going to be a tradition I demand we stop using horror guests. We can do better.

I agree with you 100%. You know who I would have like to see Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive. He would have been a hell of a lot better then these horror guest characters they been putting in. Also to Kenshimaster love the letter man. I agree with you all the way. Couldn't have said it any better.

Kratos was a perfect guest, I honestly kind of wish we had gotten him in MKX instead of MK9 lol his diverse set of weapons and stuff would also make him perfect for MKX and its variation system.

Is it just guest people hate, or general homages/lookalikes?

Remember how much hate Kobra gets for looking like SF's Ken Masters wearing the Karate Kid II villain's outfit? I don't recall Darrius' alt getting too much love either.



Ka-Tra

Darrius' alt is objectively the best alt costume in Deception.

Nah, it's just guests, I'm sure.

Most major MK characters are homages to either action movie/game characters or RL martial artists. Look at the first three games alone:

-Liu Kang = Bruce Lee (of course)
-Cage = Van Damme
-Sonya = Cynthia Rothrock
-Raiden & Shang Tsung = The villains from Big Trouble in Little China (btw, EPIC movie.)
-Kung Lao = Oddjob from Goldfinger
-Kitana (thus, Mileena and Jade) = The damsel from Karateka
-Kabal = The Sand People from Star Wars
-Cyrax and the other Cyborgs = Predator

To me, the best part about the guest characters is what NRS will do with the concepts and mechanics both for those characters and characters they can inspire. We have already seen a little of what the Injustice games inspired in MKX and I can only imagine it will continue to evolve with these guests.

No we don't. We don't have to buy characters we don't want just "support the game and maybe they'll make the characters we actually want". That reeks of laziness, greed and taking advantage of the fanbase. They were teasing us for months, dangling characters we did want like the proverbial carrot and instead we get this crap? Fuck no. I'm not buying it. I'm under no legal or moral obligation to buy this. Supporting this garbage will only ensure we get future garbage like this. NRS made this crap after jerking us around for months. They need to own this and acknowledge it and rectify it or keep it in mind for MK 11 and keep the guest characters out.

I see that OP also went to the cesspool that is the GameFaqs board, hopefully you didn't get discouraged by the apologist and trolls that constantly bully dissenting opinions over there. It is a well articulated and thoughtful message that addresses, in a polite manner, legitimate concerns about the direction the franchise is going.