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KenshiMaster16
02/29/2016 09:53 PM (UTC)
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It still makes no sense. Who is under the armor or is it full robot? How can the "concesssion" be transferred. If it is just battle data OK. But somehow strange that a random nobody can learn smoke and ice skills just from data.

Further more... How can he split up in 3 bodies. Please no hologram explanation cuz it died with the fatality.

And they are leaving CSZ completely out in the bio but he still is able to use it. Is it non canon as we don't see a 4th body in neither intro or fatality or even in his name.

Really don't like it so far.


It sorta makes sense and here's why;

Consciousness transfers (mind uploading if you will) is something that's been dabbled with a lot of science fiction. There are examples of this in films such as The Lawnmower Man or more recently Transcendence. Basically everything you learned in life; skills, memories, ect. can be moved into an AI or a storage bank thus you can theoretically live on after death and still retain everything that made you who you are. So it's possible (in the MK universe anyway) that a renegade AI could use three powerful tools (minds) to become the ultimate fighting machine.

Basically, it doesn't matter who is under the armor. It could be a random Lin Kuei goon or it could be someone significant. Point is this is Mortal Kombat and when you start breaking these things down, it ruins the characters. Cryomancy and the living undead are already ridiculous enough, then you start throwing in elemental gods, centaurs, four-armed creatures and does it really matter at that point?

As for Cyber Sub, considering his consciousness is not mentioned in the bio, it's safe to assume that is an easter egg for the fans and nothing more. He is not "officially" part of Triborg.
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02/29/2016 10:48 PM (UTC)
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Ah, a synthetic trying wipe out all organic life. Sounds very Mass Effecty.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 came in 3 variations like Triborg. Just had to throw that out there.


HE'S A SYNTH!!!!!
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Warbro666
02/29/2016 11:00 PM (UTC)
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I'd also like to add that the fact he has bones/organs is probably non-canonical too. They're just there as a mechanic in the game, just the same as it's unlikely a character like D'Vorah has bones as she has an exoskeleton.

The "test body" was most likely just a blank robot the SF found lying around, not an actual Lin Kuei warrior.
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lastfighter89
02/29/2016 11:40 PM (UTC)
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To me, Triborg is the Ultron of MK.
He was created after a failed experiment by the special forces, who wanted too use him as a mean to keep the peace in the universe, but he turns against his creators and destroy everything .
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03/01/2016 12:37 AM (UTC)
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Actally, in Triborg's bio it's mentioned that SF took a "test body" from Lin Kunei, and downloaded Sektor's, Cyrax's and Smoke's consciousness in it.

I think that "TEST BODY" is in fact clone/prototype of Cyber Sub-Zero, and that's why it serves as a "base" of sorts (it's depicted on a character select screen, and serves, and is selected as "variation-less" part).

Also maybe you noticed that Cyber Sub's form is almost identical to Smoke's apart from color, and MOST IMPORTANT on Smoke's win screen - he changes the cylinder inside his chest (effectively changes his programming) and turns into Sub-Zero!

Which means that:

1. Sub and Smoke are actually the same form with different software, which fits the part that Cyber-Sub's cybernetic was originally planed for Smoke

and

2. Sektor and Cyrex are additional forms, which are transformed into /summoned (that part still isn't really clear - how he creates additional bodies) when its needed.

So, even if there are 4 separate software modules there are still only 3 distinct forms/bodies therefore name Triborg is still valid and it still makes sense! grin
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03/01/2016 06:41 AM (UTC)
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xysion Wrote:
Ah, a synthetic trying wipe out all organic life. Sounds very Mass Effecty.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 came in 3 variations like Triborg. Just had to throw that out there.


HE'S A SYNTH!!!!!


A Gen 1 synth.

Triborg is just a way to include the three cyborgs. Just cram them in the game. You guys are over thinking it. A nod to the fans. I would not be surprised if the three split back up again the next time we see them. I would go along with it and not take it too seriously.
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OttoMatic
03/01/2016 07:07 AM (UTC)
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Nice little touch, Erron Black's X-Ray say the individual cyborg (Sektor, smoke, Cyrax) name instead of TriBorg
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Syzoth
03/01/2016 09:15 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Syzoth Wrote:
It still makes no sense. Who is under the armor or is it full robot? How can the "concesssion" be transferred. If it is just battle data OK. But somehow strange that a random nobody can learn smoke and ice skills just from data.

Further more... How can he split up in 3 bodies. Please no hologram explanation cuz it died with the fatality.

And they are leaving CSZ completely out in the bio but he still is able to use it. Is it non canon as we don't see a 4th body in neither intro or fatality or even in his name.

Really don't like it so far.


It sorta makes sense and here's why;

Consciousness transfers (mind uploading if you will) is something that's been dabbled with a lot of science fiction. There are examples of this in films such as The Lawnmower Man or more recently Transcendence. Basically everything you learned in life; skills, memories, ect. can be moved into an AI or a storage bank thus you can theoretically live on after death and still retain everything that made you who you are. So it's possible (in the MK universe anyway) that a renegade AI could use three powerful tools (minds) to become the ultimate fighting machine.

Basically, it doesn't matter who is under the armor. It could be a random Lin Kuei goon or it could be someone significant. Point is this is Mortal Kombat and when you start breaking these things down, it ruins the characters. Cryomancy and the living undead are already ridiculous enough, then you start throwing in elemental gods, centaurs, four-armed creatures and does it really matter at that point?

As for Cyber Sub, considering his consciousness is not mentioned in the bio, it's safe to assume that is an easter egg for the fans and nothing more. He is not "officially" part of Triborg.


Yeah makes sense that there has been data for a Cyborg Smoke who isn't canon in this timeline but not of CSZ.

Spin it as you want. It is just fan service the story is shit
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KenshiMaster16
03/01/2016 02:08 PM (UTC)
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Same goes for all DLC fighters, they get less explanation. Literally all they have to say is that the memory banks were compiled well before the actual transitions/surgeries began.

Honestly its a minor nitpick, at best, especially when we dont even know if Triborg is canon.
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The_TooCool_Master
03/01/2016 03:18 PM (UTC)
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They did a physical and mental test before the cybernetization. They were all meant to become cyborgs. There's no "Sub-Zero got Smoke's body" or "but Cyber Smoke doesn't exist in this timeline!!".

They had information on how all of them fought physically and mentally stored away. All of them. Even ninjas you don't know. The Special Forces downloaded some data into a robotic shell and it created Triborg, a killing machine composed of the minds of 3 of the best Lin Kuei ninjas who's only goal is the prosperity of the Lin Kuei.

The 'Borg probably got out and created 2 other bodies to spread his data.

Cyber Sub-Zero is an Easter Egg.
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SKHammer
03/01/2016 04:24 PM (UTC)
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The_TooCool_Master Wrote:
They did a physical and mental test before the cybernetization. They were all meant to become cyborgs. There's no "Sub-Zero got Smoke's body" or "but Cyber Smoke doesn't exist in this timeline!!".

They had information on how all of them fought physically and mentally stored away. All of them. Even ninjas you don't know. The Special Forces downloaded some data into a robotic shell and it created Triborg, a killing machine composed of the minds of 3 of the best Lin Kuei ninjas who's only goal is the prosperity of the Lin Kuei.

The 'Borg probably got out and created 2 other bodies to spread his data.

Cyber Sub-Zero is an Easter Egg.


Cyber Sub-Zero is the "test body" (that robotic shell you mentioned) from the bio which houses the consciousness of 3 other cyborgs.

In the comic they showed that LK were cloning their members to create "material" for cybernetisation, quite possible that it is the cyberised clone of Sub-Zero, but without mind of it's own. It was therefore just an empty shell, which is now infused and controlled by amalgam of personality data from Sektor, Cyrex and Smoke which calls itself Triborg.

It actually fits very well with what we know and see.
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03/01/2016 04:26 PM (UTC)
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PickleMendip Wrote:
JINNOCIDE Wrote:
Warbro666 Wrote:Tomorrow is March 1st in New Zealand.

Oh.... well, enjoy then tongue


HOW the hell does that work???


Are you joking? We're in a different timezone...


Of course. It just looked like the way you wrote it that NZ skipped 29th Feb. It makes total sense now.
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03/01/2016 06:22 PM (UTC)
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But how are there 3 cyborgs at the same time ?
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Gillbob316
03/06/2016 03:31 AM (UTC)
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Honestly, if Chameleon & Meat are canon (and they are), I see no reason why Triborg shouldn't be. His ending doesn't need to be, but there's nothing majorly obtusive about his story that gets in the way of the rest of the plot of MKX or anything.

He's a damn sight more fleshed out than those two were when they debuted.

Whether or not they want to call him canon, he as good as is in my book.
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Blade4693
03/06/2016 04:08 AM (UTC)
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He is a highly advanced cyborg carrying the consciousness of three previous LK members...there could be many explanations as to how he is able to be separate cyborgs. It would seem like he has the ability to separate into separate beings and put each consciousness into whichever one he wants, and he can fuse back together when he wants as well. How he does that idk, but we could ask those same questions about literally every character in the game if we want to be nit picky.

He's a Cylin...

I'm guessing the Grandmasters kept DNA samples too, to test/identify corpses of slain Lin Kuei. Maybe that's how Triborg has Smoke/Sub-Zero's abilities, his ending does mention clones. Either full clones or just enough of a DNA sample to activate their genetic abilities.



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The_TooCool_Master
03/06/2016 01:14 PM (UTC)
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Their powers could be powered by technology. If the Lin Kuei can create cyborgs, there's a good chance they can create ice beams and teleport devices.
in the old timeline they did keep their bodies and powers. Triborg is a different beast.
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03/07/2016 08:36 PM (UTC)
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Triborg is a cyborg so obviously there is a human inside thats what a cyborg is, a cyber organizim. Hes a lin quei nonja turned into a cyber ninja but wasnt unique. The MKX xomics ahow plenty of them. Sub zero blows up the facility kiling sektor and cyrax. Im sure they had data as they planned to turn smoke and sub but they only got sub in mk2011. So SF used the lin quei files and downloaded the files to triborg
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Why couldn't this ending have happened?

03/07/2016 09:33 PM (UTC)
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So he's a schizophrenic Pinnochio on steroids?
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So he's a schizophrenic Pinnochio on steroids?


I don't recall him wanting to be a real boy...



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Well at least Triborg opens the door to bringing back all the cyborgs as copies. Would be interesting to see how that plays out.
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