Will Noob Use Ice Powers IF He Is In MK 7 ?
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08/01/2004 05:22 PM (UTC)
I think he must!
also his shadow moves like shadow throw / kombo , the cloud the teleport...
but ice powers will be kool with some black ice that would be koolgrin
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03/22/2005 04:40 PM (UTC)
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Pairing up the kori powers with a long deceased Lin kuei again? No.
Noob Saibot WAS Sub-Zero. It would look only dumb and illogical.
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03/22/2005 05:18 PM (UTC)
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I don't think it will be a good idea, for Noob Saibot to use ice. It will look weird, but you never know. Weird things happen in MK.
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03/22/2005 08:16 PM (UTC)
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I don't think Noob's Demon body can use kori powers whereas his human body was trained to do it.
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03/22/2005 09:05 PM (UTC)
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I think that Noob should stick with his Wraith-like powers, and that his MKT moves (except the cloud) should come back. I dont know why, but since everyone knows that Noob is Classic Subby, everyone wants him to start throwing iceballs, etc...
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03/22/2005 10:18 PM (UTC)
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Maybe in one of his fatalities should be ice like in MK 4 (n64 version) !!!
But there must be defenetly a little reminder of who he is actially .. atleast
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03/23/2005 12:19 AM (UTC)
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Also in mkhacked sega style video, mk2 Noob is performing the ice ball fatality wich is originally performed by Sub , but i think Sub saw it from Noob grin
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03/23/2005 01:52 AM (UTC)
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Nah, Noob Saibot is no longer Sub-Zero. Just like Scorpion is no longer Hanzo. They were reborn but yet they remember their previous life, Just like how Spawn is.

So I would have Noob Saibot maintain his Wraith like powers, and trust me there are many creative ways to implement special moves for a Wraith. Hell he is a ninja that lurks in the shadows so think about it. Darnkess, Netherealm, Wraith? What kind of moves could he have?

Well I'm too lazy but you guys are creative so go for it.
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03/23/2005 04:34 AM (UTC)
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If, and only if the MK team decided to give Noob the ice powers despite what some fans on here have voiced, I'd want them to do it this way:

Instead of Noob/Smoke, make him Noob/Sub-Zero, where when he's one style, he's Noob, with his wraith powers only, and when he switches styles, the blue in his outfit fades in and he has the iceball, the slide, and maybe one other completely new move. Even then, I'm not sure I'd want to see it, though I think doing it like this would be better than just giving Noob some of Sub Zero's moves. Not sure how they could justify either in the story, but it is possible.

As for Scorpion/Hanzo: I think that it'd be a cool twist to have the Elder Gods reward Scorpion for killing the DK by making him human again. One style could be the Scorpion where he's masked, and one style could be Hanzo, and the two could fight completely different with different moves. Or maybe just have the costumes different alone, I don't know. Just some ideas. But I doubt the MK team would do either this or the Noob/Sub-Zero thing, and I doubt they'd give Noob moves from other characters. Then again, Kira exists...
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03/23/2005 06:50 AM (UTC)
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Noob Saibot is not the elder Sub-Zero, at least not anymore. He is a completely different entity. Besides, he is without emotions and thus, feels no compelling to use kori powers.
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03/27/2005 08:57 PM (UTC)
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Though he is now a wraith, he is still Sub-Zero's older brother. Now I believe that Noob using his former ice powers would be impossible. The original Sub-Zero relied on his ice powers, but now as a wraith he has to rely on weapons and illusions. This is contrary to Scorpion. While he was still Hanzo Hasashi, he could only use his martial arts abilities and that spear of his. So when he died and went to hell aka the Netherealm he gained new abilities with his new hell spawn body. But this doesn't explain why Scorpion was able keep his spear while Sub-Zero lost his feezing ability.

For me, in MK 7 I hope Noob is a whole character with his won set of styles. I hope he has the sythe he had in MK4 as a weapon. Using the Kori Blade would require his freezing ability, which he has lost for some reason.
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03/27/2005 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Kingdragon2001 Wrote:
While [Scorpion] was still Hanzo Hasashi, he could only use his martial arts abilities and that spear of his. So when he died and went to hell aka the Netherealm he gained new abilities with his new hell spawn body. But this doesn't explain why Scorpion was able keep his spear while Sub-Zero lost his feezing ability.


Scorpion was always known as Scorpion, it was his ninja code name when he was alive. Being a ninja, chances are he was trained in the use of several weapons, like the spear, so since it was never actually a part of him (as in, a special ability like Sub-Zero's ice powers), maybe the fact he became a hellspawn allowed him to make one as his weapon of choice.
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03/28/2005 03:29 AM (UTC)
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But I think that the spear is a part of Scorpion. Why else would it come out of his hand instead of him throwing it out? In my video Mortal Kombat the Journey begins, it show the battle between Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The spear is lunged out of Scorpion from a little hole in his hand.

I think that when Sub-Zero died, Shinnok took away his ice powers since they were such a threat to him in Mortal Kombat Sub-Zero Mythologies. What if Sub-Zero had wanted to take the Nether Realm for himself, which is what he is trying to do now.
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03/28/2005 04:22 AM (UTC)
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The spear isn't part of Scorpion. He has it on his belt and he throws it from there. That movie was crap and never showed the real story. If you want the realy story look at the games.

I think his powers died with his body which he doesn't have anymore. The powers are hereditary which means they are tied to his body. He is just a wraith now and his powers should be based on such.
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03/28/2005 04:39 AM (UTC)
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But what about Mileena? She died and went to hell. She was reborn as Shinnok's servant. She retained all her powers, though she didn't have that many. http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com/mkg-mileena-intro.jpg the above site had Mileena's official MKG bio.
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03/28/2005 06:59 PM (UTC)
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Lets Have Sub-Zero Present, Sub-Zero1, And Frost all in Mk7, that woulsnt be cheap at all, nope 3 people with Magical Ice powers all freezing people, nah i dont think thats a lack of ideas.
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03/28/2005 08:50 PM (UTC)
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Well mileena never became a wraith. She never changed at all. And for all we know her powers were aquired through training instead of haveing them because of what she is.
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03/28/2005 11:25 PM (UTC)
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Kingdragon2001 Wrote:
But what about Mileena? She died and went to hell. She was reborn as Shinnok's servant. She retained all her powers, though she didn't have that many.


The only real power she had was to teleport, and that's really common in MK. Plus, the fact that she was reborn in Outworld kind of implies that she came back to life as her mutant-self, not a wraith like Sub/Noob. Maybe she was one while in the Netherealm, but since she came back to life, she got back her normal form.
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04/03/2005 07:07 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
Kingdragon2001 Wrote:
But what about Mileena? She died and went to hell. She was reborn as Shinnok's servant. She retained all her powers, though she didn't have that many.


The only real power she had was to teleport, and that's really common in MK. Plus, the fact that she was reborn in Outworld kind of implies that she came back to life as her mutant-self, not a wraith like Sub/Noob. Maybe she was one while in the Netherealm, but since she came back to life, she got back her normal form.


Now what do you mean reborn in Outworld. Mileena was created by Shang Tsung to replace Kitana. He added Tartaka essence, my guess is if he didn't we would have a good Mileena a exact clone of Kitana with no evil ententions. She mutated because of it.

Now her MKG bio says she was reborn in the Netherrealm by Shinnok to serve him. So from that, I get she was reborn in the Netherrealm, served Shinnok, and was sent as a spy by him, being able to go back to Outworld thanks to the Free Roaming Sorceror Quan Chi.
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04/03/2005 08:04 PM (UTC)
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Kingdragon2001 Wrote:
Now what do you mean reborn in Outworld. Mileena was created by Shang Tsung to replace Kitana. He added Tartaka essence, my guess is if he didn't we would have a good Mileena a exact clone of Kitana with no evil ententions. She mutated because of it.
Now her MKG bio says she was reborn in the Netherrealm by Shinnok to serve him. So from that, I get she was reborn in the Netherrealm, served Shinnok, and was sent as a spy by him, being able to go back to Outworld thanks to the Free Roaming Sorceror Quan Chi.


MK3 Bio
Murdered by her twin sister, Kitana, Mileena finds herself brought
back to life by Shao Kahn himself
. Her skills as a vicious fighter will
be needed to defeat Earth's chosen warriors. Her ability to read the
thoughts of her twin sister will enable Kahn to stay one step ahead.

MK3 Ending
When Mileena is murdered, she finds her soul is reborn in an evil
place called the Netherealm. She accepts servitude to an all mighty god
known as Shinnok. It is Shinnok who allows her soul to be reborn. On the Outworld, her loyalty to Shao Kahn is replaced by her fear of Shinnok. Mileena plots to overthrow her own father. The ability to read Kitana's mind and predict the Earth warriors motives enables Mileena to set up her father's downfall. When Kahn is weakened by the onslaught of attacks, Mileena takes the opportunity to destroy her father and allow Shinnok to step forward and take both realms for his own sinister purposes.

MK4 Bio
When Shinnok's forces invade Edenia, Mileena comes out of hiding. To gain favor, she devotes her skills as a fighter to Shinnok's war against the Elder Gods. Her real purpose, however, is to seek vengeance against her estranged twin, the Princess Kitana.


Based on her MK3 info, including the ending, it seems as though she was reborn first in the Netherealm, then brought back to life.
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04/04/2005 05:32 PM (UTC)
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what does noobs ice fatality look like? is there a site?
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04/05/2005 06:02 AM (UTC)
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Did you read this thread?
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04/06/2005 03:12 PM (UTC)
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shotgunpuma Wrote:
what does noobs ice fatality look like? is there a site?
shotgunpuma Wrote:
what does noobs ice fatality look like? is there a site?


Noob Saibot's ice fatality is just like Sub-Zero's ice fatality in Mortal Kombat 4, it might be coincidence before that Noob Saibot had that fatality before. It could have just been a lazy way to give Noob Saibot a fatality by porting Sub-Zero's to his.
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04/06/2005 07:12 PM (UTC)
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U STILL DON'T GET IT !
Noob will use some kind of black ice that is stronger than that of Sub Zero .
It will have different efect on the victim and it will look differnt totally different , nothing to do with sub zeros ice.It will be super original.
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04/06/2005 07:58 PM (UTC)
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Reasons why Noob Saibot should not use ice.

-the older Sub-Zero is dead. Noob Saibot is a completely new sentient being without any kind of compassion. Thus he cannot feel anything to use his kori powers again.

-physically impossible. Since Sub-Zeros body was burned to ashes, nothing remained from his legacy. Sub-Zero powers are hereditary through blood relations bridging hundreds of years.

-black ice. Noob Saibot has already been tied to more shadow and steam like abilities what now suit his more japanese ninja like form. Since Noob Saibot is more deceptive and sneaky, his shadow and myst ball attacks suit his current state as shade miles better.

-the black ice would be basicly another ice attack, despite it's attributes. MK characters need strong points what separate them from the others, especialy the ninjas after MK Trilogy (onslaught of ninjas).

-since Noob Saibot feels no compelling towards his duties as the brother of the current Sub-Zero, he realy don't thinks about kori powers. it is now completely alien towards him.

-remember that NS started out as a separate character, untill they decided that his past should be revealed this way. Noob Saibot already had a well developed aura around him, considering his moves from trilogy...so the fans may celebrate the fact that he's older Sub, but they would have hated the fact, that NS would have been changed or would be changed into another ice warrior-or ice warrior progress. If you get what I am trying to imply, NS now has a stable world built around him.

That kind of half-original idea would only deconstruct the altogether well established structure of him, as a character. I vote not to give him ice moves in any way. His storyline separated from Sub-Zeros, but left a strong tie: but that is now Smoke.

Don't take this as an offensive, but judging from your posts, you still need to improve your skils in reasoning and meaning. Peace.
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