MK Fighters fighting styles
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Immortal_Kanji
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What do you think are the specific fighting styles of all the MK fighters?

Ex. Liu Kang - Jeet Kune Doo
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jadeinchains
02/24/2012 10:23 PM (UTC)
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... Isn't this info on Mortal Kombat Wikia?

Any way pretty sure Jade uses Bojutsu. (Think thats what its called)
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Immortal_Kanji
02/24/2012 10:28 PM (UTC)
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jadeinchains Wrote:
... Isn't this info on Mortal Kombat Wikia?

Any way pretty sure Jade uses Bojutsu. (Think thats what its called)


Well... I was wrong. I mean fighting styles that are suited for each fighter's trademark.
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jadeinchains
02/24/2012 10:38 PM (UTC)
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Oh Okay.
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Immortal_Kanji
02/25/2012 02:57 PM (UTC)
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Any thoughts of which fighting style suits each warrior?
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Sub-Zero_7th
03/01/2012 04:44 AM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji
03/06/2012 10:30 PM (UTC)
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How about weapon styles. Minus the fighters from 4-Armageddon.

Well at least the 3 dlc ones minus Freddy.
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Sub-Zero_7th
03/07/2012 02:21 PM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
How about weapon styles. Minus the fighters from 4-Armageddon.

Well at least the 3 dlc ones minus Freddy.


I feel that some characters (e.g. Sonya, Jax, Smoke, Hsu Hao) shouldn't use melee weapons. When it comes to a character like Sub-Zero, I could see him forming various weapons with his powers instead of simply using the Kori Blade. For Drahmin, he'd be using his Iron Club in his unarmed styles anyway since his right arm is encased in it, so there would be no need for an Iron Club weapon style.

After playing MK 2011, I really like the fighting system is (broadly speaking), but I still feel that real martial arts styles should be incorporated into most of the characters' fighting styles, acting as a base to work with. I could REALLY get into the explanations behind my choices, and it would take time and a lot of focus to get into all of that.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/04/2012 06:12 PM (UTC)
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Ya sure that not all fighters should have weapons? And is Skarlet's fighting style only one?
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/06/2012 12:24 PM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Ya sure that not all fighters should have weapons? And is Skarlet's fighting style only one?


I feel that it does not make sense for some characters (e.g. Jax) to be using melée weapons because of the characters themselves. For characters like Sub-Zero and Frost, why restrict them to one weapon when they could use their powers to form all kinds of weapons? It's great that they did that with Sub-Zero in MK 2011 by having him use the sword in some combos and a knife in some others.

As for Skarlett, I wanted to think of a martial art that would go with her usage of daggers, and I thought it would be interesting to see Pekiti-Tirsia Kali used in a fighting game. It's a Filipino martial art that uses a lot of knife fighting techniques, with the empty-hand combat techniques being derived from them (especially the knife). The hand-to-hand combat techniques are somewhat similar to that in Wing Chun, using a lot of trapping techniques and open-handed strikes.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/07/2012 02:01 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Scorpion: Kumogakure-Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu, Koto-Ryu Koppojutsu, Shito-Ryu Karate

Sub-Zero: Foshan Long Xing Quan, Gyokko-Ryu Kosshijutsu, Togakure-Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu

Reptile: Fuzhou Long Zun Quan, Choy Gar Kuen

Rain: Hapkido, Liu He Ba Fa Quan

Ermac: Choy Li Fut, Yiquan

Noob Saibot: Baiyuan Tongbeiquan, Gyokushin-Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu

Smoke: Mizuquan (Rice Ancestor Fist), Ba Bu Tanglangquan (Eight Step Mantis)

Cyrax: Ba Fa Quan (Eight Methods Fist), Gikan-Ryu Koppojutsu

Sektor: Yuejiaquan, Sun Bin Quan

Stryker: Boyevoye (Combat) Sambo

Kabal: Kajukenbo, Duan Quan (Short Fist)

Reiko: Worstel-Konst, Xin Yi Liu He Quan (Henan style Xingyiquan)

Fujin: Feng Shou Chuan (Li style Taijiquan), Daito-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu

Bo' Rai Cho: Zuiquan (Drunken Fist), Mizongquan (Lost Track Fist), Sumo

Hotaru: Takenouchi-Ryu Kogusoku, Pek Kwar (not the Piguazhang style that was influenced by arts such as Tongbeiquan)

Nightwolf: MK 2011 fighting style

Johnny Cage: American Kenpo Karate, Gosoku-Ryu Karate

Kano: Bare-knuckle Boxing, Shoot Boxing

Jax: Muay Korat, Western Boxing, some Pro-Wrestling techniques

Kai: Ditangquan, Houquan (Monkey Fist), Meihuaquan (Plum Flower fist)

Kenshi: Wu style Taijiquan, Kito-Ryu Jujutsu

Liu Kang: Jun Fan, Shaolin Dragon Kung Fu

Kung Lao: Qi Xing Tanglangquan (Seven Star Mantis)

Shang Tsung: She Quan (Snake Fist)

Quan Chi: MK 2011 fighting style

Shinnok: Wujiquan (Void Fist)

Raiden: style derived from a multitude of martial arts styles but primarily traditional Asian martial arts styles; primary influences of Yagyu Shingan-Ryu Taijutsu/Jujutsu (from Edo line) and Yagyu Shingan-Ryu Jingasajutsu (from Sendai line)

Sonya: Tae Kwon Do, American Kickboxing, Kodokan Judo

Kitana: Ying Jow Pai (Eagle Claw), Yin style Baguazhang

Mileena: Fanziquan, Silat Melayu Lian Padukan

Jade: Fu Jow Pai

Skarlet: Pekiti-Tirsia Kali

Ashrah: Silat Melayu Keris Lok Sembilan

Li Mei: Mian Zhang, Chuojiao

Tanya: Gouquan (Dog Fist)

Sindel: Yang style Chaquan, He Quan (Crane Fist)

Sareena: Shandong Heihuquan (Black Tiger Fist)

Sheeva: MK 2011 fighting style with influences from Musti-yuddha (essentially Indian Kickboxing) and Jarasandhi style Malla-yuddha (a form of Indian Wrestling)

Baraka: MK 2011 fighting style

Motaro: MK3/MKA fighting style

Havik: Ma Zhi Quan (Bandit Fist of Kunlun Quan), Lost Monkey and Drunken Monkey attributes of Tai Sheng Men

Drahmin: MKDA styles with Netherrealm influenced by Bokator and Oni influenced by Yuan Gong Quan (Ape Movement Fist)

Moloch: MKA fighting style

Shao Kahn: Bajiquan, Pankration

Goro: MK 2011 fighting style

Kintaro: MK 2011 fighting style



Nice. But I'm thinkin... and for Tremor.... IF he'd ever replace Hsu Hao.

Scorpion, add the shirai ryu ninjutsu. While Sub-Zero, Smoke, Cyrax & Sektor, add lin kuei ninjutsu.

Kai can use capoeira & brazilian jiu-jutsu.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/07/2012 06:29 PM (UTC)
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Well do you think you can explain why u chose those fighting styles?
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/08/2012 01:32 PM (UTC)
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I'm not really a fan of either Tremor or Hsu Hao, but I do feel that Hsu Hao could actually be very interesting in terms of his gameplay style. I have some ideas for him.

When I put the list of fighting styles for the characters, most of them are martial arts styles that are influences for the characters' fighting styles. With characters such as Onaga and Moloch, they have made-up styles with perhaps a little bit of influence from real martial arts techniques.

For Scorpion, his fighting style would be Shirai-Ryū, but the martial arts influences for that would be styles like Kumogakure-Ryū. There was apparently a Ninjutsu tradition called Shirai-Ryū, but it's long been extinct.

As for the Lin Kuei warriors using "Lin Kuei Ninjutsu", it just doesn't make any sense. Lin Kuei, or more accurately Lín Guǐ, is a Chinese name while Ninjutsu (a.k.a. Shinobijutsu) is a Japanese word. Linguistically, it just wouldn't make any sense to combine the two together.

About Kai, I know that a lot of people would love to see him use Capoeira moves for his fighting style. While that may be interesting, I feel that his fighting style needs to have a strong TCMA (traditional Chinese martial arts) influence due to his training under Liu Kang. I would say that characters like Jax, Sonya, and Stryker would be more fitting for using Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu techniques considering their line of work, especially for Stryker.

Anyway, I'll have an updated list, and I'll do my best in giving explanations behind my ideas, but I'm only going to talk about a few characters at a time since talking about 60+ characters in one post would take too long and would be too long of a post.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/11/2012 10:11 PM (UTC)
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Tremor should go Ditangquan & Hung Gar, since they're earth-based.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/14/2012 05:17 PM (UTC)
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Hows the plan going?
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/15/2012 01:00 PM (UTC)
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I'm pretty busy with my personal life so I'm sorry if I don't get back to you sooner. Because of this, I'm only going to do a couple characters or so at a time.


Scorpion

Kumogakure-ryū Ninpō Taijutsu (Hidden Cloud School of Stealth/Endurance Law Body Art), Shurikenjutsu (Throwing Blade Art), Bikenjutsu (Secret Sword Art)

Togakure-ryū Ninpō Taijutsu (Hidden Door School of Stealth/Endurance Body Art), Bikenjutsu (Secret Sword Art), Shurikenjutsu (Throwing Blade Art), Kyoketsu Shōgejutsu (Art of using the roped, double-bladed spear)

Kotō-ryū Koppōjutsu (Knocking Down the Tiger School of Knack Art), Kenjutsu (Sword Art)

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This is pretty straight forward. Scorpion is technically the only true ninja in MK's story, so it would make sense that Kumogakure-ryū and Togakure-ryū, being used by the ninja, would be strong influences in Scorpion's Taijutsu techniques. Togakure-ryū teaches the usage of a weapon called the Kyoketsu Shōge, which could be used for his "spear" move instead of a roped kunai.

Kotō-ryū is a Japanese art closely associated with the ninja and fits Scorpion's more offensive style centered around damaging the opponent's skeletal structure. Kumogakure-ryū is a Ninjutsu tradition known for its ninja wearing demon masks, something that Scorpion in MK: Legacy wore.

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Sub-Zero

Wǔdāng LÃ3ng Huá Quán (Wǔdāng Dragon Glorious Fist)

Wǔdāng Pán LÃ3ng Mén (Wǔdāng Coiling Dragon Gate)

Gyokko-ryū Kosshijutsu (Jeweled Tiger School of Bone Fat Art), Shitōjutsu (Fingertip Art), Kenjutsu (Sword Art)

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With LÃ3ng Huá Quán, I wanted Sub-Zero to have a more distinct Dragon style of Kung Fu, so I looked towards the Daoist styles of Kung Fu of Wǔdāng. This particular Dragon style is very fluid and dynamic. Wǔdāng Pán LÃ3ng Mén is another Daoist style of Kung Fu. It has elements of Tán Tuǐ (Springing Leg), BāguÃazhǎng (Eight Trigram Palm), and contains some snake hand techniques. The "Coiling Dragon" part comes from the BāguÃazhǎng elements, such as forming the hands like dragon claws. The idea here is that this art has a nice balance of external and internal, and I feel that Sub-Zero should be pretty well-rounded.

Gyokko-ryū is an art closely associated with the ninja. Like Kotō-ryū, it is said to be derived from Chinese martial arts techniques. In contrast to Kotō-ryū's more straight-forward, offensive nature, Gyokko-ryū is more defensive and uses a lot of circular and long-ranged techniques. With Gyokko-ryū, I try to give that sort of Lin Kuei/Shirai-ryū connection since some of its techniques are Chinese in origin. It's a more advanced art that attacks the opponent's pressure points, giving it that sort of deadly feel that some might associate with the ninja-type characters. While I see Scorpion leaning more towards the offensive side with his fighting style, I see Sub-Zero as leaning more towards the defensive side.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/15/2012 06:26 PM (UTC)
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves with the MK4-MKD characters yet. MK10 comes out soon. Let us focus on the MK9, DLC + Tremor.
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/16/2012 03:03 PM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Lets not get ahead of ourselves with the MK4-MKD characters yet. MK10 comes out soon. Let us focus on the MK9, DLC + Tremor.


Fair enough. What do you at least think of my ideas? Here are a couple more characters:



Reptile

Fúzhōu Lóng Zūn Quán (Fúzhōu Dragon Respect Fist)

C�aijiāquán (C�ai Family Fist), also known as Choy Gar Kuen (Choy Family Fist) and "Rat Kung Fu"

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The idea behind my choices for his fighting style influences is simply that I wanted to go for an animalistic vibe. Going further, I feel that his fighting style needs to have that "reptilian" vibe to go with his character, so I looked towards a Southern style of Kung Fu called Fúzhōu Lóng Zūn Quán, which is a more close-quarters style with dragon claw techniques. Choy Gar might also be known as "Rat Kung Fu", but it is derived from Snake style Kung Fu. This style added more kicks, something that Reptile's fighting style shouldn't be without, imo.

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Rain

Li-shì Zhāquán (Li style Zhā Fist)

Liù Hé Bā Fǎ Quán (Six Harmony Eight Method Fist), also known as Shuǐ Quán (Water Boxing)

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The idea behind my choices for Rain is to go with a theme of fluidity and gracefulness to match his character and his powers. Zhāquán is a traditional Northern Chinese martial art of fluidity and elegance. The Long Fist styles sort of have a quality of being high class, with the techniques done with effortlessness. For Rain, I think the Li style of Zhāquán make sense since it has a "masculine" flavor to it. Liù Hé Bā Fǎ Quán is a martial art of great fluidity, hence its alternate name of "Water Boxing", so it makes sense for Rain. It also sort of complements the Zhāquán influences since Zhāquán is more on the external side.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/16/2012 07:34 PM (UTC)
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I love your ideas. These suit the characters well. Keep'em up! Oh and... minus Freddy & Kratos, they don't fit MK.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/16/2012 08:42 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Scorpion

Kumogakure-ryū Ninpō Taijutsu (Hidden Cloud School of Stealth/Endurance Law Body Art), Shurikenjutsu (Throwing Blade Art), Bikenjutsu (Secret Sword Art)

Togakure-ryū Ninpō Taijutsu (Hidden Door School of Stealth/Endurance Body Art), Bikenjutsu (Secret Sword Art), Shurikenjutsu (Throwing Blade Art), Kyoketsu Shōgejutsu (Art of using the roped, double-bladed spear)

Kotō-ryū Koppōjutsu (Knocking Down the Tiger School of Knack Art), Kenjutsu (Sword Art)

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This is pretty straight forward. Scorpion is technically the only true ninja in MK's story, so it would make sense that Kumogakure-ryū and Togakure-ryū, being used by the ninja, would be strong influences in Scorpion's Taijutsu techniques. Togakure-ryū teaches the usage of a weapon called the Kyoketsu Shōge, which could be used for his "spear" move instead of a roped kunai.

Kotō-ryū is a Japanese art closely associated with the ninja and fits Scorpion's more offensive style centered around damaging the opponent's skeletal structure. Kumogakure-ryū is a Ninjutsu tradition known for its ninja wearing demon masks, something that Scorpion in MK: Legacy wore.

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Sub-Zero

Wǔdāng Lóng Huá Quán (Wǔdāng Dragon Glorious Fist)

Wǔdāng Pán Lóng Mén (Wǔdāng Coiling Dragon Gate)

Gyokko-ryū Kosshijutsu (Jeweled Tiger School of Bone Fat Art), Shitōjutsu (Fingertip Art), Kenjutsu (Sword Art)

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With Lóng Huá Quán, I wanted Sub-Zero to have a more distinct Dragon style of Kung Fu, so I looked towards the Daoist styles of Kung Fu of Wǔdāng. This particular Dragon style is very fluid and dynamic. Wǔdāng Pán Lóng Mén is another Daoist style of Kung Fu. It has elements of Tán Tuǐ (Springing Leg), Bāgu�azhǎng (Eight Trigram Palm), and contains some snake hand techniques. The "Coiling Dragon" part comes from the Bāgu�azhǎng elements, such as forming the hands like dragon claws. The idea here is that this art has a nice balance of external and internal, and I feel that Sub-Zero should be pretty well-rounded.

Gyokko-ryū is an art closely associated with the ninja. Like Kotō-ryū, it is said to be derived from Chinese martial arts techniques. In contrast to Kotō-ryū's more straight-forward, offensive nature, Gyokko-ryū is more defensive and uses a lot of circular and long-ranged techniques. With Gyokko-ryū, I try to give that sort of Lin Kuei/Shirai-ryū connection since some of its techniques are Chinese in origin. It's a more advanced art that attacks the opponent's pressure points, giving it that sort of deadly feel that some might associate with the ninja-type characters. While I see Scorpion leaning more towards the offensive side with his fighting style, I see Sub-Zero as leaning more towards the defensive side.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Reptile

Fúzhōu Lóng Zūn Quán (Fúzhōu Dragon Respect Fist)

C�aijiāquán (C�ai Family Fist), also known as Choy Gar Kuen (Choy Family Fist) and "Rat Kung Fu"

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The idea behind my choices for his fighting style influences is simply that I wanted to go for an animalistic vibe. Going further, I feel that his fighting style needs to have that "reptilian" vibe to go with his character, so I looked towards a Southern style of Kung Fu called Fúzhōu Lóng Zūn Quán, which is a more close-quarters style with dragon claw techniques. Choy Gar might also be known as "Rat Kung Fu", but it is derived from Snake style Kung Fu. This style added more kicks, something that Reptile's fighting style shouldn't be without, imo.

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Rain

Li-shì Zhāquán (Li style Zhā Fist)

Liù Hé Bā Fǎ Quán (Six Harmony Eight Method Fist), also known as Shuǐ Quán (Water Boxing)

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The idea behind my choices for Rain is to go with a theme of fluidity and gracefulness to match his character and his powers. Zhāquán is a traditional Northern Chinese martial art of fluidity and elegance. The Long Fist styles sort of have a quality of being high class, with the techniques done with effortlessness. For Rain, I think the Li style of Zhāquán make sense since it has a "masculine" flavor to it. Liù Hé Bā Fǎ Quán is a martial art of great fluidity, hence its alternate name of "Water Boxing", so it makes sense for Rain. It also sort of complements the Zhāquán influences since Zhāquán is more on the external side.

One thing.... how do those connect to their powers?
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Immortal_Kanji
05/17/2012 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Okay how about just Fujin & Shinnok only of the MK4-MKD category.
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/17/2012 01:24 PM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
I love your ideas. These suit the characters well. Keep'em up! Oh and... minus Freddy & Kratos, they don't fit MK.


Thanks. When it comes to Kratos and Freddy, I feel that there are certain elements about those characters that do fit MK, but either way, I'm not going to be covering them here. As for my martial arts influence ideas for Rain, the theme is mainly about fluidity and elegance, which both of those martial arts contain. Since Rain has water powers, those martial arts fit with the fluidity of water, especially with LiÃ1 Hé Bā Fǎ Quán.

Anyway, as for Fujin and Shinnok...

Fujin

Fēng Shǒu Quán (Wind Hand Fist)

Daitō-ryū Aiki-Jūjutsu (Long Sword School of Joining Energy Softness Art)

Owari-Kan ryū Sōjutsu (End of the Hall School of Spear Art)

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The idea behind Fujin's martial arts influences is to fit with the theme of his wind powers. I see him using more of the internal martial arts techniques, which generally represent the kind of fluidity of water and/or air. With Daitō-ryū, I'd like to see that Japanese influence in his fighting style since Fujin is named after a Shinto deity. Daitō-ryū is an ancestor art to both Hapkido and Aikidō, and it uses circular motions to redirect the opponent's force instead of meeting force with force.

I mentioned Owari-Kan ryū Sōjutsu, because I have this idea of Fujin using the kuda yari (tube spear), a type of Japanese spear used by sliding the shaft through a metal tube/pipe. It's a unique spear taught in that martial art, and it's not stiff like other types of yari (spears). With that said, it has more of a flexibility and fluidity to it. I also thought it would sort of complement Raiden's usage of the Rokushakubō (6 foot staff).

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Shinnok

Wǔdāng Wǔjíquán (Wǔdāng Without Extremity Fist)

ZhÃaobǎo TÃaijíquán (ZhÃaobǎo Great Extremity Fist)

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I see Shinnok as being one of the more advanced characters to play as and master, and I imagine him using more of the internal martial arts techniques to give that sense of him being advanced.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/17/2012 01:39 PM (UTC)
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Good work so far. Can't wait for more. Oh and I get Rain's moves & styles. I'm also talking about Scorpion's, Sub-Zero's & Reptile's also.
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Sub-Zero_7th
05/17/2012 01:45 PM (UTC)
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Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Good work so far. Can't wait for more.

Oh and I get Rain's moves & styles. I'm also talking about Scorpion's, Sub-Zero's & Reptile's also.


I gave my explanations for those characters. With Scorpion, it's very straight-forward and logical to have his fighting style largely influenced by martial arts techniques of the ninja. For Sub-Zero, it's a bit of the same to give that story connection between the two clans. For Reptile, it's to capture that animalistic feel, especially from the Dragon style I mentioned.
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Immortal_Kanji
05/17/2012 01:56 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Immortal_Kanji Wrote:
Good work so far. Can't wait for more.

Oh and I get Rain's moves & styles. I'm also talking about Scorpion's, Sub-Zero's & Reptile's also.


I gave my explanations for those characters. With Scorpion, it's very straight-forward and logical to have his fighting style largely influenced by martial arts techniques of the ninja. For Sub-Zero, it's a bit of the same to give that story connection between the two clans. For Reptile, it's to capture that animalistic feel, especially from the Dragon style I mentioned.


True. But I'm talking about their powers. I get Rain.

Oh and Nightwolf... his style is based on probably Indian-Native american martial arts. Tushka-Homa & Chulukua-Ryu
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