Tarkatans: inherently evil?
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Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/02/2014 07:45 PM EDT
Given their demonic heritage, do you think Tarkatans are destined to be evil, or could they be good, or at least somewhat redeemable?

I personally do not like the idea that they can only be evil. It's predictable, and lazy, to have an whole race that people can always blame of doing evil deeds, particularly a race of scary-looking beings like them.

They are half-demons, so perhaps the Outworld half of their genetics allows them to be good. Or maybe the demonic heritage doesn't influence their behavior all that much. Sareena and Ashrah are both demons, and we've yet to find out whether either used to be something else, or if they were born demons, but either way, they've both tried to be good. Why couldn't Tarkatans do the same?

I like to think that they're not so much destined to be evil, so much as they're more prone to it than the other species (that we know of), including humans.

Although, if they ever "redeem" Baraka, or introduce a new good Tarkatan (a female one preferably, imo), then I hope that being good wouldn't mean being a pacifist, who hates what they are and who would want to rid their DNA of the demonic heritage, and to look human. The last one (to look human) would especially be annoying.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/02/2014 07:53 PM EDT
Female Tarkatan? Does Meliena count?
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/02/2014 08:53 PM EDT
I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.

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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/02/2014 09:39 PM EDT
The way I see it, they just follow the strongest leader of Outworld. I don't see that as really evil, just really loyal. Like Stormtroopers/Clone Troopers

Would be cool if a good tarkatan made an appearance.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 01:48 AM EDT
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I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.





Loyalty my ass! LMAO
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 04:46 AM EDT
They are cruel, vicious and bloodthirsty. I suppose that could be utilised for some greater ends, but some greater good wouldn't be what interests them in getting to slaughter their prey.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 01:33 PM EDT
FROID Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.





Loyalty my ass! LMAO


You're making a case from a non-canon ending?

We might as well say Li Mei is evil.

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05/03/2014 03:07 PM EDT
Riyakou Wrote:
FROID Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.





Loyalty my ass! LMAO


You're making a case from a non-canon ending?

We might as well say Li Mei is evil.


I was just yanking your chain tongue
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05/03/2014 03:35 PM EDT
I don't think we'll see them being good. The only one I can possibly think of is Mileena, but I don't want her to become good. They'll obviously become loyal to Shinnok, serve the side of evil once again and not see that much of a difference with them. To be honest, they're my least favorite race in the series. I just find them boring.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 04:08 PM EDT
You know, I was thinking. Since most Tarkatans believe in serving the strongest, would they then serve one of the heroes, like Kitana, if said hero decided to take over as Outworld's Emperor? Given how many times the heroes prevailed, maybe some Tarkatans would start considering them stronger than all the masters they've served.

Though there's the possibility that they side with the likes of Shao Kahn and Shinnok not just because of their power, but because they grant the Tarkatans privileges the heroes wouldn't. If that's the case, allying with some of Earth's governments or corporations could do them wonders, because there's no way there isn't a single human who wouldn't want such killing machines on their side. Some Tarkatans could then become neutral, serving a human government/corporation with questionable motives, who however see certain otherworldly beings like Quan Chi as a threat, and who'd grant them (the Tarkatans) something in return, like an entire city on our world.

Imagine that. Baraka going corporate.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 04:18 PM EDT
FROID Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
FROID Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.





Loyalty my ass! LMAO


You're making a case from a non-canon ending?

We might as well say Li Mei is evil.


I was just yanking your chain tongue


Oh.

Now I feel bad.

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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 05:43 PM EDT
Li Mei IS evil in Deception though.

At least partly. She's resisting. Success not actually confirmed or guaranteed....
Anyway, as far as the Tarkatans go, I believe my statement in another thread yesterday was "they're not intelligent enough to choose their own morals". That's a bit of an exaggeration, Baraka has shown the capacity for cleverness or rational thought on occasion as opposed to following instinct alone...but they are ruled by their animal-instincts much more than a normal human being, and those instincts are inherently "do selfish, harmful things" because they're part-demon.
Also, behavior isn't just created by nature, it's nurture too. All of Tarkatan culture is "live in tents, raid villages, and eat people." For a Tarkatan to be good, they'd have to be an outcast from their tribe from a very young age so they don't have that example they're being encouraged to conform to growing up, or they'd need to be given a reason as an adult to reject everything they've ever known...AND they'd have to be willing and able to resist their natural urge to behave sociopathically.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/03/2014 11:21 PM EDT
*little girls voice* They're not evil. They're just misunderstood
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/04/2014 12:41 AM EDT
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*little girls voice* They're not evil. They're just misunderstood

Hmm, where have I heard that before?
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
05/20/2014 10:36 PM EDT
I don't like the idea of any of the characters being naturally evil. It's their motivations that make them interesting. Evil for the sake of evil is boring. I'd like to believe that tarkatans are the way they are because of the blood soaked culture they are raised in.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/01/2014 03:14 AM EDT
I'd go as far as saying that Tarkatans are inherently violent but I'm not %100 convinced they are inherently evil. Like many of the Shao Kahn conquered races we never get much insight how Tarkatan's would be outside of subjugation and Kahn's intervention. Tarkatans are portrayed as a blood thirsty, nomadic species with little vested interest in cultural development beyond self-preservation. However, they seem to posses enough intelligence to advance culturally.

They sort of remind me of Klingons, Krogans, or Yakuja (Predator) in this respect in that the Tarkatans could possibly develop deep culturally specific morals based around honor. It's a sci-fi twist to the whole"proud warrior" trope.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/01/2014 10:13 PM EDT
Eh, the Shokan are already clearly the proud warrior/Klingon analogue in MK, they care about honor, Goro and Sheeva are even kinda goodguys sometimes.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/04/2014 02:47 AM EDT
Evil? Nah. Actually a character I've always created in my head was a tarkatan that lead an extremely small group against Kahn and the Mortal Kombat tournament, but dies after several attempts to kill him and overthrow his Empire.

So I haven't thought of them as inherently evil like they seem to be.


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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/06/2014 08:19 AM EDT
They are evil because that is the purpose they fulfill in the narrative.

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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/06/2014 02:10 PM EDT
Evil? No.

Brain-dead and easily manipulated? Yes.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/06/2014 10:51 PM EDT
A full breed female Tarkatan would be sweet!

Mileena does not count because she is a mixed breed, Human/Tarkatan.
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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/08/2014 03:01 AM EDT
FROID Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
I've never saw Baraka as evil, only loyal.





Loyalty my ass! LMAO


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RE: Tarkatans: inherently evil?
06/08/2014 05:51 AM EDT
Ah yes, MK1 Raiden. The character that should have been continued instead of the redundant mentor.


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