Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
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04/08/2011 08:03 PM EDT
@ErmacYou:

The majority of people will have that "agree to disagree" attitude or actually have a calm discussion but then there's a select few who believe their ideas and opinions are better than everyone else's. Rather annoying
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04/08/2011 08:04 PM EDT
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I don't know, I like the sound of an MK game that doesn't play like week old dog shit.

i dont want the game to play like crap either but it doesnt need a hardcore tournament fighters stamp of approval for it to be good. and mk has ALWAYS sold well.


It has always sold well because MK fans like every mediocre shit they release, like MKD and MKA.

bottom line is mk has ALWAYS sold well regardless of poor quality.
the epic level of improvement in this game will definitely boost sales.
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04/08/2011 08:06 PM EDT
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i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend them for that.
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04/08/2011 08:07 PM EDT
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@ErmacYou:

The majority of people will have that "agree to disagree" attitude or actually have a calm discussion but then there's a select few who believe their ideas and opinions are better than everyone else's. Rather annoying

agreed.i stated my opinion and he failed to counter what i said unless he/she is typing a long winded reply.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:11 PM EDT
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
AcidSpitter93 Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend themfor that.

mk doesnt have to be tourney worthy to survive.if that was the case MK:DA wouldve been the last mk game. you grossly underestimate mk popularity and longevity.very disrepectful especially since your an mk fan.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:21 PM EDT
ErmacYou Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
AcidSpitter93 Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend themfor that.

mk doesnt have to be tourney worthy to survive.if that was the case MK:DA wouldve been the last mk game. you grossly underestimate mk popularity and longevity.very disrepectful especially since your an mk fan.


Stop double posting man.

Also, I don't even understand what your point is. You're saying that improving gameplay is important but making a tourney worthy fighter isn't? Huh? Its true MK doesn't have to have deep gameplay to make money but.....I mean would you rather keep dishing out sixty bucks for shit?

And how is it disrespectful to say MK's gameplay is shit? We're the ones paying.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:24 PM EDT
ErmacYou Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
AcidSpitter93 Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend themfor that.

mk doesnt have to be tourney worthy to survive.if that was the case MK:DA wouldve been the last mk game. you grossly underestimate mk popularity and longevity.very disrepectful especially since your an mk fan.


Fuck Mortal Kombat's popularity. Popularity doesn't equal quality. The Deadly Alliance Trilogy are three of the worst 3D fighting games ever made. So bad in fact, that they added in "distractions" like puzzle kombat and Konquest modes to distract the player from their garbage engine.

Shit like that isn't going to cut it anymore especially after the resurgence of Street Fighter. It's not disrespectful to want this Mortal Kombat to be the best FIGHTING game it can possibly be
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:24 PM EDT
Once again creating good gameplay doesn't necessarily mean you have to make it all about tournament play. Boon himself said that they always wanted MK to cater to casual fans too so you can pick up and play, but with added depth for people who decide that they're badass if they can pull off a 70% damage combo. If they wanna make it like that then that's their decision and it aint gonna bother me, but I personally don't feel that should take precedent over the other aspects. It's got fun as hell gameplay and all I did was use specials and the preset combos. That wouldn't be considered tournament caliber playing style but is the most fun I've ever had playing MK. The characters felt individual enough and all equally fun to play as. If they just focused on the story and kept it as simple as I played it then it'd sell just as well if they didn't decide to add the extra depth. What do you mean what's the point? This game is going to sell like crazy irregardless and sorry if you don't see my point but then again I don't see the point of spending hours trying to learn 70% combos for every character. That's just not fun to me which is exactly why I don't plan on entering tournaments or multiplayer
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:34 PM EDT
You know it can be a deep fighter with a gentle learning curve. UMK3 and SFIV are some of the easiest fighters to pick up. Hell, look how easy Smash Bros. is to play and look how big its tourney scene is.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:34 PM EDT
SubMan799 Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
AcidSpitter93 Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend themfor that.

mk doesnt have to be tourney worthy to survive.if that was the case MK:DA wouldve been the last mk game. you grossly underestimate mk popularity and longevity.very disrepectful especially since your an mk fan.


Stop double posting man.

Also, I don't even understand what your point is. You're saying that improving gameplay is important but making a tourney worthy fighter isn't? Huh? Its true MK doesn't have to have deep gameplay to make money but.....I mean would you rather keep dishing out sixty bucks for shit?

And how is it disrespectful to say MK's gameplay is shit? We're the ones paying.

obviously you werent paying attention.
my point is input from hardcore tournament fighters is not need for this game to be better. understand that?
i said underestimating mk popularity is disrepectful.understand that? you dont think they were trying to make a better game every time?
if you think a hardcore gamers input is needed for this game to be better then thats your opinion.i dont think so understood?
now you can stop posting
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:36 PM EDT
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Once again creating good gameplay doesn't necessarily mean you have to make it all about tournament play. Boon himself said that they always wanted MK to cater to casual fans too so you can pick up and play, but with added depth for people who decide that they're badass if they can pull off a 70% damage combo. If they wanna make it like that then that's their decision and it aint gonna bother me, but I personally don't feel that should take precedent over the other aspects. It's got fun as hell gameplay and all I did was use specials and the preset combos. That wouldn't be considered tournament caliber playing style but is the most fun I've ever had playing MK. The characters felt individual enough and all equally fun to play as. If they just focused on the story and kept it as simple as I played it then it'd sell just as well if they didn't decide to add the extra depth. What do you mean what's the point? This game is going to sell like crazy irregardless and sorry if you don't see my point but then again I don't see the point of spending hours trying to learn 70% combos for every character. That's just not fun to me which is exactly why I don't plan on entering tournaments or multiplayer


You're perceptions of competitive play or even casual versus play are flawed. You apparently play MK as a single player experience which is fine, but that's not why a lot of people play fighting games. A lot of people want to play online, they want their friends and they want a deep experience.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:39 PM EDT
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Once again creating good gameplay doesn't necessarily mean you have to make it all about tournament play. Boon himself said that they always wanted MK to cater to casual fans too so you can pick up and play, but with added depth for people who decide that they're badass if they can pull off a 70% damage combo. If they wanna make it like that then that's their decision and it aint gonna bother me, but I personally don't feel that should take precedent over the other aspects. It's got fun as hell gameplay and all I did was use specials and the preset combos. That wouldn't be considered tournament caliber playing style but is the most fun I've ever had playing MK. The characters felt individual enough and all equally fun to play as. If they just focused on the story and kept it as simple as I played it then it'd sell just as well if they didn't decide to add the extra depth. What do you mean what's the point? This game is going to sell like crazy irregardless and sorry if you don't see my point but then again I don't see the point of spending hours trying to learn 70% combos for every character. That's just not fun to me which is exactly why I don't plan on entering tournaments or multiplayer


A special followed by a 3 hit combo is not good gameplay. It would still sell, definitely, but it would be shit nonetheless.
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04/08/2011 08:41 PM EDT
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now you can stop posting



This is a forum. Don't say something if you don't expect other people to give you their input on it.

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04/08/2011 08:42 PM EDT
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
AcidSpitter93 Wrote:
Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
i have a problem with nrs even catering to tournament fighters.
what for? mk doesnt need a bunch of hardcore "im better than you cause i mastered a fighting game" idiots to vouch for it.mk is a deeper fighter based on story alone imo. all those idiots do is find glitches infinites and whatever else they waste 23 hours a day do with the game.
who cares what they think? fans from this website have better ideas and opinions than those stuck up pricks.mk is alot more than hitboxes and juggles.


Fans like you are part of the problem. It's not being elitist to demand quality out of a product.


And just because you aren't an elitist doesn't mean you don't want good gameplay. You can have good gameplay without catering to what tournament players expect. Making this game tournament worthy shouldn't even be the main concern. Getting the story good and making the gameplay better which is what they're doing. It doesn't need to be as deep as Street Fighter or shit like that to be a good game.


If it can't compete with the competition then what the fuck is the point? If Mortal Kombat is going to survive the series has to step it up which it looks like they have. NRS WANTS MK to be a contender and I commend themfor that.

mk doesnt have to be tourney worthy to survive.if that was the case MK:DA wouldve been the last mk game. you grossly underestimate mk popularity and longevity.very disrepectful especially since your an mk fan.


Fuck Mortal Kombat's popularity. Popularity doesn't equal quality. The Deadly Alliance Trilogy are three of the worst 3D fighting games ever made. So bad in fact, that they added in "distractions" like puzzle kombat and Konquest modes to distract the player from their garbage engine.

Shit like that isn't going to cut it anymore especially after the resurgence of Street Fighter. It's not disrespectful to want this Mortal Kombat to be the best FIGHTING game it can possibly be

since you bring up street fighter,
its widely accepted that SSFIV is the most balanced fighter but the hardcore says its broken cause their fave character got nerfed or another character their fav is at a disadvantage against got buffed for balance reasons.
one of the many reasons hardcore gamers opinion means nothing.
if mk wasnt popular it wouldn't sell.even casual gamers wouldn't buy it unless people were talking about it.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:44 PM EDT
I simply want Mortal Kombat at it's best overall and to not return to the days of "well we could've put this awesome kickass thing in the game but we didn't have the time to do it".

And This MK has a tall order for it.

It has to impress the Fighting Game Community, Impress WB with it's sales, Impress those of us who have become a tad jaded with the series and Try to lure the old fans who left.
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04/08/2011 08:45 PM EDT
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ErmacYou Wrote:
now you can stop posting

This is a forum. Don't say something if you don't expect other people to give you their input on it.

he said it to me first so next time you want to but in direct your comment to the correct person
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:47 PM EDT
Are you guys asking Ed Boon to make just an "okay" game, to keep the "elitist players" from hurting your feelings ?

Less is More-tal Kombat ?

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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:48 PM EDT
ErmacYou Wrote:
obviously you werent paying attention.


Obviously not...

ErmacYou Wrote:

my point is input from hardcore tournament fighters is not need for this game to be better. understand that?


Help is not needed if the team can pull off a decent fighter by themselves. Given their track record that doesn't seem to be the case. Tournament players have been helping the team out btw. Some of the top Tekken players have been helping out.

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i said underestimating mk popularity is disrepectful.understand that? you dont think they were trying to make a better game every time?


How is it disrespectful to underestimate something's popularity? What is this I don't even

ErmacYou Wrote:

if you think a hardcore gamers input is needed for this game to be better then thats your opinion.i dont think so understood?

now you can stop posting


Ya I think I'm gonna stop now.
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04/08/2011 08:53 PM EDT
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I simply want Mortal Kombat at it's best overall and to not return to the days of "well we could've put this awesome kickass thing in the game but we didn't have the time to do it".

And This MK has a tall order for it.

It has to impress the Fighting Game Community, Impress WB with it's sales, Impress those of us who have become a tad jaded with the series and Try to lure the old fans who left.

i agree.
hardcore gamers dont give a shit about casual gamers.if this mk doesnt meet every expectation,they will trash this game to high hell for the smallest of things.they are the minority and not the authority on fighting games.
theyve thrown everything into this game so far.things we didnt expect ands its not because of what the hardcore audience demanded.
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04/08/2011 08:54 PM EDT
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ErmacYou Wrote:
obviously you werent paying attention.


Obviously not...

ErmacYou Wrote:

my point is input from hardcore tournament fighters is not need for this game to be better. understand that?


Help is not needed if the team can pull off a decent fighter by themselves. Given their track record that doesn't seem to be the case. Tournament players have been helping the team out btw. Some of the top Tekken players have been helping out.

ErmacYou Wrote:

i said underestimating mk popularity is disrepectful.understand that? you dont think they were trying to make a better game every time?


How is it disrespectful to underestimate something's popularity? What is this I don't even

ErmacYou Wrote:

if you think a hardcore gamers input is needed for this game to be better then thats your opinion.i dont think so understood?

now you can stop posting


Ya I think I'm gonna stop now.

good boy.
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 08:58 PM EDT
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LordLulzinheim Wrote:
ErmacYou Wrote:
now you can stop posting

This is a forum. Don't say something if you don't expect other people to give you their input on it.

he said it to me first so next time you want to but in direct your comment to the correct person


He said stop double posting, because its spamming.

You can edit your posts. You know that, right?
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04/08/2011 08:59 PM EDT
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Are you guys asking Ed Boon to make just an "okay" game, to keep the "elitist players" from hurting your feelings ?
Less is More-tal Kombat ?

hardcore elitist whatever you want to call them only want the game to be how they want it.
this mk could be the most difficult fighting game to learn or master and i would still buy it.
and who you referring to with the okay game bullshit? me directly or casual gamers?
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RE: Restoring MK to prominence in the fighting community
04/08/2011 09:03 PM EDT
They're catering to everyone on this one. There's a wide roster of the classic characters, it's set in the classic timeframe, there's a Story mode for the plot enthusiasts (even if the quality of it is debatable), realistic gore for everyone who's wanted the game to be serious, and what appears to be quality gameplay for the first time in years.

Plenty of casuals had a good time with SSF4 alongside skilled fighting gamers; there is absolutely no reason it has to be one or the other. The money collected will come from the hands of both parties. Everyone wins, especiallly Ed, who will now have money for enough hookers and blow to last ten lifetimes.
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04/08/2011 09:06 PM EDT
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They're catering to everyone on this one. There's a wide roster of the classic characters, it's set in the classic timeframe, there's a Story mode for the plot enthusiasts (even if the quality of it is debatable), realistic gore for everyone who's wanted the game to be serious, and what appears to be quality gameplay for the first time in years.

Plenty of casuals had a good time with SSF4 alongside skilled fighting gamers; there is absolutely no reason it has to be one or the other. The money collected will come from the hands of both parties. Everyone wins, especiallly Ed, who will now have money for enough hookers and blow to last ten lifetimes.

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04/08/2011 09:06 PM EDT
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They're catering to everyone on this one. There's a wide roster of the classic characters, it's set in the classic timeframe, there's a Story mode for the plot enthusiasts (even if the quality of it is debatable), realistic gore for everyone who's wanted the game to be serious, and what appears to be quality gameplay for the first time in years.

Plenty of casuals had a good time with SSF4 alongside skilled fighting gamers; there is absolutely no reason it has to be one or the other. The money collected will come from the hands of both parties. Everyone wins, especiallly Ed, who will now have money for enough hookers and blow to last ten lifetimes.


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