Well, I'd just like to point out that Sonya totally owned Kitana's butt in the canon story mode ("Out of my way!").

Among other things (+ that glorious ARC KICK!!!). And that fight was even an endurance match against 2.

*love love love*

And just so you know: Kitana is one of my faves too and I play with her constantly in this new MK game.

Why do people feel like they need to bring up Sonya when Kitana is being "put down" or discussed or even vice-versa?

You do realize this thread was created by a huge Kitana fan and that many other big Kitana fans happen to agree with the negatives?



Keith, I bow to you (yet again) due to your awesomeness and ability to make MKO a much much MUCH better place.

Please never leave us.

*hugs*

Part of me is wondering what exactly Sonya's left hand and Kitana's right hand are touching. lol

Yeah, Sonya's chapter is extra ridiculous lol. There is no way on Raiden's green earth that Sonya could beat both Kitana AND Jade at the same time lol

Receipts?
We HAVE receipts, as Sonya beat both of them in story mode AND survived Sindel's attack.

NOT HERE for the delusions.
I'm HERE for FACTS!!!

oh lord, you. Sonya was knocked out with a one-hitter-quitter, that's the only reason she survived. But 2 edenians who are trained assassins for thousands of years vs. a cop. I fail to see how they would not be able to disarm Sonya *literally* if both of them were involved. But I don't need to give you receipts, because you wouldn't care if I gave you some or not. I'm just stating my opinion. You act like Kitana killed your father and raped your mother. Please build a bridge and get over it.

Seriously. Get out of this topic. It had nothing to do with Sonya. There was no reason for you to come in and attack Kitana.

@ Breakingdishesz As awesome as Sonya is, this thread is not about her. I think it's extremely inconsiderate for you to keep this going and it would be nice if you would please kindly stop what you're doing.

....Sooooooo, how about that Kitana, huh? I might've missed this part if it was brought up in here, but anyway, in the old timeline, did she know the truth about Kahn or just suspect it?

You better do your research.

I came here trashing Kitana because she is terrible and this is a thread ABOUT HER. It was other member who brought Sonya into this thread.

I would think she already knew before the tournament started. Her MK2 ending states that's the reason she joined the tournament in the first place.

Thanks, couldn't remember if she knew the whole truth or not. That helps me out alot.

Just one last clarification on the matter because I was quoted:



Actually, she can.

And she did. Canon.



That scene was one of the powerful establishing points of Sonya as a character and individual in the story. It's really not difficult to see at all why it happened and how the results are perfectly valid.

You are given a regular simple human, a female from Earth who happens to be trained in the military, and this "simple" female is pitted against two extraordinary female alien assassins who are over 10,000 years old and trained servants of the Emperor of Outworld himself.

This "regular simple human" who is already talented in her military field, proves to be a powerful Chosen Warrior. Sonya proves she's more than just talented. She's very special. She's Earth's only chosen female warrior. She has her own unique abilities and special Chi that puts her right on the top and perfectly capable of dealing with monsters, Onis, aliens, Lin Kuei ninjas, Tarkatans, sorcerers, and 2 skilled "simple" 10,000 years old assassins.

Sonya beating a powerful Lin Kuei member, taking down both Kitana and Jade, and dealing some damage to Raiden proves she's just as special and just as powerful.

A Chosen Warrior. A special fighter who is powerful enough to stand on her own against such foes. Earth's only female warrior till date.

Whether you accept this or not, its OK, but the truth of the matter is that it did happened, whether you like it or not. That's the fact.

Ragrding Kitana and back to the main original topic

What the hell was that lame-ass horrible "new special move" they gave her? I can't even remember the name but that "move" was a serious disappointment that shouldn't even be included in her list of specials.

It looks like a simple and regular attack. The Pretty Kick at least has some style, but, that other move is just stupid.

With all the potential in the world for cool-looking specials, I can't believe they gave her that.

I wouldnt really consider that as "canon" Yes Sonya is one of the chosen Earthrealmers and she is badass and can kick some ass, but cmon 2 on 1 Kitana/Jade would take her down.

Pretty much every 2 on 1 fight in story mode, the 2 would win.

The only ones I can think of at the top of my head are Lui vs Quan chi and Shang Tsung. Quan and Shang would dominate Lui. The other one is Sonya vs Kitana/Jade, like the others said Kitana and Jade have been highly trained assassins for 10,000 years. I find it hard to believe that a cop could take them down.

Even some one on one fights. Like Baraka would totally take down Johnny Cage. So would Reptile.

^^....That was Kung Lao who fought Quan and Shang, not Liu Kang.

Sonya is a chosen fighter lol right shao kahn took her out with one hit lol

You also forget Sindel took her out with one hit as well.
You also forget that everything that was done in the story mode was purely for shock value.
Logic in Mortal Kombat went out the window a loooooooooooong time ago.

To stay on topic: Any more thoughts on that special move they gave Kitana?



It happened. It was presented in the official story mode. It is canon.

If we were to go by that rule, then we could all just consider anything we want "canon" and "not canon".

We can all just raise our hands and say that Stryker and Jade aren't dead because we don't consider their deaths canon even though it happened. Everyone else is dead though.

We can raise our hands to the air and say that Kabal got his respirator and new look from someone else and not Kano even though that's how it happened.

We could say Kitana didn't find out the truth of her life the way she did because we don't like it and "don't really consider it canon", even though that's how it was presented.

I do agree though that certain things could actually be retconed in the next game (I wouldn't be surprised) but the fact of the matter is that the way things have happened in the games (canon and not canon such as MKSM and MKvsDC) are the true mind/vision of the team regarding characters and events.

MKSM is not entirely canon, yet, scenes like Raiden awarding medals of honor to the chosen warriors is something that is perfectly valid and real because that's the way the team saw these moments. Same with the characters portrayals in MKvsDC. The game is not canon to the storyline, but, the characters roles, personalities, and attitudes still are.

If it was to be revealed that story mode is "not canon" (which has been confirmed to be already and it would be stupid otherwise), you still have canon character presentations and that includes their victories .

Anyway, Sonya's "Its Kombat Time!" against the 4 Edenian Females proves that this is the point the creators wanted to make with Sonya's victories in Story mode. Even Mileena says something like: "You Earth females have so much to learn about Kombat" to what Sonya replies something like "We'll see about that". The point is clear even though Challenge Tower is obviously not canon.

I'm not saying it's not canon, I'm just saying it's ridiculous. I stopped taking Sonya's chapter seriously after she fought Raiden. I love Sonya, she's a tough cookie and I love her character, and I can believe her taking on Sub Zero, Kitana, and Jade... separately. But there's a lot of stuff in storymode that makes me go 'wut' lol. I still like it though

Yeah, not to mention Kitana losing to Smoke earlier and then somehow beating both him AND Johnny Cage in her chapter.. (who Sonya lost to, queve, remember that?)

Oh Hell No!

sorry buddy but you left me no choice but to quote you....

Sonya Vs. Kitana + Jade
-you really think this match was canon to the story?!
These are fieresed Edenian warriors; Jade alone would be enough for her, not to mention the aid of the princess.
It was just added to take space and for entertainment, thats it.

Sonya Vs. Raiden
-this wasnt even a battle; Raiden clearly didn't defend himself and was not about to fight her. Super non-Canon, again just to take space and mak the the story longer.

Kitana Vs. Johnny Cage + Smoke
-Cage clearly defeated Sonya in the story, and Kitana defeated Cage + Smoke. Although, smoke had defeated the princess earlier in his chapter, which is exactly why you can't take these handicap matches seriously.

Kitana Vs. Shang Stung
-Raiden didnt allow Sonya to face the sorcecer because he knew she would get pounded to her grave. BUT the princess single handedly defeated him and dragged his ass to Kahn. What does that tell you? ;)

Sindel Vs. ALL the heroes lol
-Most of the fighters took multiple blows, excet for Ms. Blade. She was knocked out with one hit! Kitana stood there and took the most hits than everyone! What does that tell you?

Sonya surviving
-I think the only reason she escaped death (just like scorpion) in this game is because she is one of Boon's favorites (just like scorpion). Im a big Sonya fan but her story is pretty much over, what else can she bring to the table?

....................................

Kitana's "new special move"
-its actually very useful! The animation is just like her pretty kick special, therfore it confuses her oponent. However, I agree with you that they couldve given her much much much much more sophisticated and unique special in its place!

Sonya's kiss special
-looks kinda pretty, but with all honesty, its USELESS!

I think we should be cautious about accepting a fighter's superiority because said fighter won matches in story mode.

Yes, it is now technically canon that Sonya defeated Kitana and Jade. However, we shouldn't then leap to the conclusion that Sonya possesses more fighting skill than both Kitana and Jade combined. After all, Kitana and Jade scored impressive victories themselves in their respective chapters.

If anything, story mode proves that any Mortal Kombat character has the *potential* to overcome any other fighter. Luck, situational context, and plot mechanics still play large roles in determining canonical match outcomes, moreso than an essentialist "special chosen warrior" status.

Long story short: story mode is crap. (imo)

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The faint kick is the the new special move they gave Kitana and while I find it very useful, especially online (confuses the opponent), I do agree that it doesn't really look like a special move.

Oh well, more ways to build the super meter...

I wish the pretty kick was like the one from MKA. I liked how it was 4 kicks in that game, it still is 4 in MK2011, but it has to be enhanced. The basic pretty kick should be 4 kicks.

Oh my god, this topic!!!

Smoke came off as the biggest idiot of this entire game, by getting into a pointless fight with Kitana, charging Shang Tsung and Kano head on, and getting his ass kicked by Sektor. And he's dead.

Jax had one of the most unimportant and uninteresting chapters of this entire story, considering the fact that one battle had him fighting Johnny Cage for stupid reasons and the other a random moment were Jade walked in on the group. His entire purpose was to save Sonya and lose his arms. And he's dead.

Baraka not only shows up as being fodder for everyone, but fodder for Jade simply because why not.

Sheeva had no role beyond being a guard for no freaking a reason, and even was a guard to make sure that Sonya wasn't saved from the acid pit, despite the forty abominations that hang out in that same area being on guard as well. And don't get me started on her final appearance in Kabal's chapter.

Stryker gets about 10 lines of dialogue, gets the chance to make a massive comeback in the eyes of fans, but instead, he dies one of the most embarrassing deaths in the series.

Kabal gets one of the dumbest chapters which consists of him betraying a guy who just brought him back to life, randomly charging Shao Kahn, introducing Cyber Sub-Zero, and randomly fighting Sheeva because....why not? Oh, and he's dead.

Jade gets an entire chapter where she actually gets decent fights and dialogue, but once that chapter ends, she never speaks or does anything important ever again. And she's dead.

And you know what, I'm PRETTY SURE NRS doesn't hate any of those characters.

Kitana actually gets dialogue, plot value, and character development from MK1 until the end of the story. She goes from a mindless assassin to a freedom fighter with moral and hope. And even in death, she gets a full on dramatic death scene, someone to actually REALLY mourn her, and FINAL WORDS BEFORE HER DEATH!

Sonya gets a major focus on her rivalry in MK1, and even gets major focus considering her connections with Jax, Johnny Cage, and Raiden. She gets one of the stories funniest lines where she almost calls Sub-Zero a mother fucker. Becomes the very 'emotional ally' who cares for all the members as she is one of the few characters who mourns the loss of all the heroes, and actually REACTS when someone she cares about gets horribly injured, Jax (which considering Stryker and Kabal, THAT'S HUGE). And she LIVES!

Kitana and Sonya are hated by WHO again?

Kitana and Sonya are among the best fighters in the game, seriously. They (along with Mileena sometimes) are the only characters I use in the game exclusively. I often do 1p tag online as Sonya and Kitana and we are really tough to beat and a fucking amazing team. I love sonya's juggles.

Not her boobs!

I love sonya's juggle.. square square circle cartwheel dash in cancel before they hit the ground square square triangle cartwheel leg grab bash. love it!

and omg kitana... forward circle triangle forward triangle square back triangle fan throw jump in fan throw and then another fan combo... fucking nuts!

they did such an amazing job with both of them... it really pisses me off that some people would compare them in a negative way. they can both hold their own against each other.

sonya is a powerhouse and could hold her own in a 2 against 1 situation.