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03/07/2011 04:45 AM (UTC)
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Oh lawd, this discombobulation has even spawned a username. That's when you know shit is getting real.
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03/07/2011 04:47 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:

You were being kinda spiteful.

It's kinda sewn into the "opinions can't be wrong" philosophy.

Oh, that? I stand by that.

The examples above that line you mentioned were meant to demonstrate that they're are crazy opinions out there. It wasn't suppose to mean, "this next line is my immutable and profound opinion. BEHOLD!"

No. All I meant by that line is "given everything we know so far, there is no known possible storyline associated with Cyber Sub-Zero that has trumped Sub-Zero's story as it is known MK4/MKDA/MKD."

And that's true. It's fucking undeniable. If someone can give an argument for Cyber Sub having a better story than Sub's previous storyline, I'm all ears. But GIVE and argument.


1. I didn't mean to come across as spiteful if I did.
2. Ehhh, I'm not so sure about that. I mean opinions can be wrong if it's like "I think the color blue is more yellow", but when it comes to stuff like "the cyborg storyline is pure crap!" or "Sub-Zero has the best storyline out of all MK characters" it gets tricky. In this case, even if you have stuff to back it up, it's not a fair fight since we haven't seen what purpose Cyber-Zero has.
3. This goes along with 2. It's not fair to assume they haven't thought up a decent or better than storyline. To be honest, I don't feel Sub-Zero's storyline is any better or worse than my boy Scorpion or even the lame Liu Kang. It's not a fair argument at all because we have not been told of anything other than the existence of Cyber-Zero.

P.S. Damn your fancy way of knowing how to separate quotes on this site! tongue
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03/07/2011 04:47 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
See, that's the root of the problem. You already think MK is ridiculous, so you have no problem allowing stupid ideas such as Cyber Sub-Zero.


Mortal Kombat is every shitty '90s comic book trope distilled into video game form of-fucking-course it's ridiculous. It's why people love the game because it completely revels in the absurdity of dumb shit that was cool 15 years ago.
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03/07/2011 04:48 AM (UTC)
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I'd like CyberSubZero to have a freeze ray and say "Ice To Meet You".







I AGREE WITH THE CYBERSUBZERO USER WITH ZERO VISITS IT MUST BE HIM!

*TROLLFACE*tongue
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03/07/2011 04:50 AM (UTC)
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My two bits: plots in fighting games aren't half as important as plots in 70's porn films. I couldn't possibly care less about what's canon, who did what in DA, Deception, Armageddon, or heck, even MKII; it's all completely irrelevant to me. All I care about is whether the fighting mechanics are good (and I'm no tournament-level player, so I'm not hard to please), the characters are actually balanced well, and if the game is FUN to play. They could give us Cyber Reptile and as long as he plays well nothing else matters. It's one more character crammed into a game with nearly thirty to begin with, people. One more option in a game that overwhelms you with them.

How can this POSSIBLY be a bad thing? You canon Nazis really need to go climb a wall of dicks.
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03/07/2011 04:50 AM (UTC)
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Cyber sub-zero will be a great tag parner for orginal sub-zero. Eaither way your gonna get iced!
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03/07/2011 04:52 AM (UTC)
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Everybody chill!
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03/07/2011 04:52 AM (UTC)
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GET ICED!


YEAH LET'S GET ICED BRA!glasses
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03/07/2011 04:53 AM (UTC)
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I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin
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03/07/2011 04:53 AM (UTC)
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As far as the Cyber-Sub speculation goes, I'll need more info before I freak the fuck out. What surprises me though is that in 17 pages, no one seems to really want to speculate over the Brotherhood of the Shadow achievement since that means either Sareena or Reiko right?
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03/07/2011 04:54 AM (UTC)
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scienceguy14 Wrote:
I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin


LEEETTTSS DOOOO EEEEETTTT!!grin
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03/07/2011 04:55 AM (UTC)
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dropkickombat Wrote:
scienceguy14 Wrote:
I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin


LEEETTTSS DOOOO EEEEETTTT!!grin


lol and so the countdown begins
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03/07/2011 04:55 AM (UTC)
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TzarChasm Wrote:
My two bits: plots in fighting games aren't half as important as plots in 70's porn films. I couldn't possibly care less about what's canon, who did what in DA, Deception, Armageddon, or heck, even MKII; it's all completely irrelevant to me. All I care about is whether the fighting mechanics are good (and I'm no tournament-level player, so I'm not hard to please), the characters are actually balanced well, and if the game is FUN to play. They could give us Cyber Reptile and as long as he plays well nothing else matters. It's one more character crammed into a game with nearly thirty to begin with, people. One more option in a game that overwhelms you with them.


Welcome to the world of MK. It's fine that story doesn't matter to you, but you've got to recognize and understand the fact that it does to a sizeable portion of this series' fanbase. It's a detail that sets it apart from most other fighters out there. It's one of the draws of the series that kept people coming in all those years it had a shit fighting engine.

There's no reason it can't have both a good engine and a good plot. For the first time it looks like it can have both, so yeah, expect people to get up in arms when it looks like something shoddy's going down.

That aside, MKO is more traditionally a messageboard devoted to the aesthetics of the games. There's not a whole lot of in depth strategy talk that goes on here as compared to other places like ultimatemk.com, for example. So, get used to seeing a lot of story talk about these parts.
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03/07/2011 04:56 AM (UTC)
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scienceguy14 Wrote:
dropkickombat Wrote:
scienceguy14 Wrote:
I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin


LEEETTTSS DOOOO EEEEETTTT!!grin


lol and so the countdown begins








ONE!
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03/07/2011 04:57 AM (UTC)
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scienceguy14 Wrote:
dropkickombat Wrote:
scienceguy14 Wrote:
I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin


LEEETTTSS DOOOO EEEEETTTT!!grin


lol and so the countdown begins


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03/07/2011 04:58 AM (UTC)
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
scienceguy14 Wrote:
dropkickombat Wrote:
scienceguy14 Wrote:
I bet your copy of mortal kombat 9 this thread goes past 21 pagesgrin


LEEETTTSS DOOOO EEEEETTTT!!grin


lol and so the countdown begins




TROLL HUNGARY!^^^^furious
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03/07/2011 05:04 AM (UTC)
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Thread reeks of butthurt. Bring on Cyber Zero
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03/07/2011 05:08 AM (UTC)
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Really?

The Raiden from back then gets a message and he doesn't know what's going on, but he knows something bad's going to happen, and the game spans Mortal Kombat 1, 2 and 3, retelling the story with an enlightened Raiden, and he's changing the course of things, so everything you've seen happen before – Liu Kang winning, the guys turning into cybernetic ninjas, are changed around, so you might see a character become cybernetic who wasn't before, and so you see a different version [of events]]


....so you might see a character become cybernetic who wasn't before, and so you see a different version [of events]]


[source]
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1098513p1.html

WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE ACTING LIKE THIS SHIT WASN'T A POSSIBILITY?!

You guys knew the concept of this story.
So you're telling not once the Smoke and Sub-Zero situation never came to mind? Wow.

I too find this hard to believe that they're actually doing this. But if this is indeed true, I welcome this with open arms. I always wonder what it would be like to have *cough*Hydro*cough* Cyborg Sub-Zero in a real Mortal Kombat game. I just hope he's not broken.


And to each person saying "Nude Mileena" you're really making me lose faith in humanity even more, inch by inch. You really think they're gonna make her nude? Really?
I bet it's gonna be her in a Teddy Bear costume.
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03/07/2011 05:08 AM (UTC)
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Mojo6 Wrote:
As far as the Cyber-Sub speculation goes, I'll need more info before I freak the fuck out. What surprises me though is that in 17 pages, no one seems to really want to speculate over the Brotherhood of the Shadow achievement since that means either Sareena or Reiko right?


one would think its either noob or sareena they are refering to. i cannot imagine they would show us noob in feb. and then make him the unlockable for the achievement. so that leaves sareena or shinnok as my main guesses.
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03/07/2011 05:08 AM (UTC)
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Joe-Von-Zombie Wrote:
Thread reeks of butthurt.


As long it's the good kind. ;)
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03/07/2011 05:09 AM (UTC)
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Hooky-Fooky Wrote:


Everybody chill!


Hahaha

"You will not send me to the cooler"

"What killed the dinosaurs? The ice age!"

"Ice to see you"

"Lets kick some ice"

"The Iceman cometh!"

And best of all

"Allow me to break the ice. My name is Freeze. Learn it well. For it's the chilling sound of your doom."

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03/07/2011 05:12 AM (UTC)
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Kind of what I picture most of the MKO community look like when they don't agree or are angry about something.
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03/07/2011 05:13 AM (UTC)
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THIS!^tongue
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TzarChasm
03/07/2011 05:16 AM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
TzarChasm Wrote:
My two bits: plots in fighting games aren't half as important as plots in 70's porn films. I couldn't possibly care less about what's canon, who did what in DA, Deception, Armageddon, or heck, even MKII; it's all completely irrelevant to me. All I care about is whether the fighting mechanics are good (and I'm no tournament-level player, so I'm not hard to please), the characters are actually balanced well, and if the game is FUN to play. They could give us Cyber Reptile and as long as he plays well nothing else matters. It's one more character crammed into a game with nearly thirty to begin with, people. One more option in a game that overwhelms you with them.


Welcome to the world of MK. It's fine that story doesn't matter to you, but you've got to recognize and understand the fact that it does to a sizeable portion of this series' fanbase. It's a detail that sets it apart from most other fighters out there. It's one of the draws of the series that kept people coming in all those years it had a shit fighting engine.

There's no reason it can't have both a good engine and a good plot. For the first time it looks like it can have both, so yeah, expect people to get up in arms when it looks like something shoddy's going down.

That aside, MKO is more traditionally a messageboard devoted to the aesthetics of the games. There's not a whole lot of in depth strategy talk that goes on here as compared to other places like ultimatemk.com, for example. So, get used to seeing a lot of story talk about these parts.


This is nothing new to me. I've been around for several years though I don't post very often. That said, I'm still entitled to my opinion about plots in fighters, and Mortal Kombat's plot isn't any deeper than the average 16-bit game's. Honestly, Mortal Kombat is right up there with Star Wars in terms of its crap-to-creativity ratio: it offered a few revolutionary visual effects back in a day when there wasn't much to write home about to begin with, and has been let off the hook since then for being written by Down syndrome apes with crayons stuck in their butts.

I'm not saying this to piss anyone off. I'm merely blown away by how many people will prejudge this new character's inclusion without ANY idea how he's implemented—or even why he is. In keeping with the Star Wars analogy here, not every character retroactively introduced into an established plotline *has* to be Jar-Jar Binks, guys. Get over yourselves already and let NRS do what you pay them to do.
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03/07/2011 05:17 AM (UTC)
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Okay, I'm just going to throw this one in there as I think it's a cute little animation which is also a nice way to describe how this thread turned out to be:



Ahhh, that felt good. Alright, carry on guys. ^^

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... Sooo.... Quan Chi is confirmed as a hidden character, huh?
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