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12/18/2007 10:24 PM (UTC)
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You people are writing such long ass comments. LOL, But anyways, Cyrax should stay because hes important to mk history. Its his time to shine for once. Deep down inside all you guys know you love this little yellow robot.LOL
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12/18/2007 10:28 PM (UTC)
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I guess I needed to elaborate more...I will admit I was wrong though in my small explanation.Next time I will get straight to the point.
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12/18/2007 10:47 PM (UTC)
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STKBLAZE Wrote:
You people are writing such long ass comments. LOL, But anyways, Cyrax should stay because hes important to mk history. Its his time to shine for once. Deep down inside all you guys know you love this little yellow robot.LOL


How is he important to MK history?
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undertaker15-0
12/19/2007 04:45 PM (UTC)
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i dont fink cyrax will be retouning ide rather see sektor or smoke
out of all the robots hes the worst like in mk3 his ending he gets caught by sub zero in mk gold in sektors ending he dies he sucks but he has been in more games thn the other robots
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12/19/2007 06:12 PM (UTC)
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pleaseee calm down and relax!!!!!

in the armageddon konquest after the first level where Taven is in the tekunin plane,you can hear Sonya's voice.
normally during a militar operation the guy who spokes is the leader.
i think they take order by the president and other district staff(white house in other words) and they take orders by generals,but they give orders during militar operation to their sub-ordinates.
So,if during a operation Sonya and jax should die,Cyrax will lead the team of SF soldiers involved in the mission.

is it clear????

oh,sorry i don't care,i exactly know what i'm talking about and if you want to understand...it's better than you.
i give my explanation,so have a nice day.
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12/19/2007 06:41 PM (UTC)
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lastfighter89 Wrote:
pleaseee calm down and relax!!!!!

in the armageddon konquest after the first level where Taven is in the tekunin plane,you can hear Sonya's voice.
normally during a militar operation the guy who spokes is the leader.
i think they take order by the president and other district staff(white house in other words) and they take orders by generals,but they give orders during militar operation to their sub-ordinates.
So,if during a operation Sonya and jax should die,Cyrax will lead the team of SF soldiers involved in the mission.

is it clear????

oh,sorry i don't care,i exactly know what i'm talking about and if you want to understand...it's better than you.
i give my explanation,so have a nice day.


So basically, you're talking about the one who leads certain operations? If so, why did you not make yourself clear before?

Even if Sonya and Jax were to die, that does NOT mean that Cyrax will necessarily be the one to lead others into missions. The MK team could easily come up with a new Special Forces character, one with a higher rank. And just because Sonya lead a team against the Tekunin does not mean that she does that with all sorts of missions, especially since she's only a Lieutenant.
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12/20/2007 05:14 AM (UTC)
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Next up: Sektor
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12/20/2007 10:33 AM (UTC)
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Sektor is surely better than Cyrax.
we never see him without mask,so his face is unknown for us.
he is intriguing and dark,and for what i see he is one of the baddest characters of the roster.
he is soulness and mercyless,he is a cold blooded cyborg without feelings or memories of his former life.He also offer himself to transform his body into a soulness machines.
Smoke and Cyrax were forced,Sektor choose.
this is a huge difference.
In mk3 he haven't such a big role,his ass was kicked by Sub Zero and Smoke who turns against Cyrax and Sektor,resquing his long life friend.
after that he returns as secret character in mk gold where he have to kill cyrax;eventually he does not manage to murder him.
after this failed trial,the lin kuei is reformed by Sub Zero and the two fought again for the ownship of the dragon medallion,which give more powers to the owner.
sub zero won,ans sektor flew away forming the tekunin.
He reutrn in mk TE without a specific role and in mk armageddon he kidnap Jax and try to transform him into a tekunin cyborg.

we don't know if jax totally turns into a soulness machine or if he manages to save his humanity and kick Sektor ass.

his special moves aren'y that good,his fatalities are pretty simple and funny to watch.His combos in mk3 were quite short and in armageddon the kenpo style isn't that special,even tough the double pulse blade is cool.

for the future i don't see any direction for him.
midway tried to give a different storyline to such characters like Johny cage and Sonya Blade,but without a bio we can't talk about sektor real purposes,even tough i can assume he is trying to expand the tekunin and conquer the world.
if he kills jax,he should return in mk8 as evil cyborg,with JC and Sonya enraged which will try to kill him and revenge jax's death.
however i'm pretty tired of revenges,so i expect that really Sektor should not surive even tough i like him.
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12/20/2007 12:10 PM (UTC)
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to lastfighter89 in the cartoon of mk you see his face for a little bit but i think thats a different story line
any way
i would like sektor to return but i dont care if he dont hes not a main charector i enjoy useing him on the ds and armageddon
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12/20/2007 06:11 PM (UTC)
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Sektor should stay for sure.He is a dark mysterious character,Grandmaster of the Tekunin.He has something coming for him.He has a good story.The warship is an amazing source of transportation and a good weapon to destroy anything.Sektor should plan an attack against the SF.Even though MK:A wasn't really a good game it had a pretty good story.The SF attacked the warship so Sektor should at least get revenge by attacking the entire SF or focusing on one character,mainly Sonya.

He should plan an attack or a kidnapping if part of the SF is still alive.The chances that Sektor is staying is pretty high.I would really like to see this character back for future MK games.I definitely do not want to see him have a rivalry with some new guy.It might mess him up or mess up the good story that he has.Sektor would need a good hiding spot for the MK game.Some unknown place because the warship doesn't just repair by itself.I would like more detail in bios and storylines as well as other people.

...to summarize all of this into one sentence Sektor should stay with a plan to attack the SF.
Hm. . .

Sektor's best path would be to team up with Noob's cyborg demon army and build a Deadly Alliance 2.0. that is, if he even survives. . .

If he dies, maybe he could be used as part of a tool for Noob's army like Jax's Arms and Smoke's nanotechnology. This method might help play on Noob's manplativeness as he doesn't tell the Tekunin this.

If he lives, a similar case. He joins up with Noob and unite their cyborg forces so that they could kill their enemies, namely Sub-Zero.

His skills really need a some reworking. The missiles and teleport uppercut stay, but everything else goes. Add in lasers, pulse waves, Jet-pack oriented moves, anything that looks high tech.
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12/21/2007 10:48 PM (UTC)
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BloodSplatter-ChainsawMan Wrote:
Hm. . .

Sektor's best path would be to team up with Noob's cyborg demon army and build a Deadly Alliance 2.0. that is, if he even survives. . .

If he dies, maybe he could be used as part of a tool for Noob's army like Jax's Arms and Smoke's nanotechnology. This method might help play on Noob's manplativeness as he doesn't tell the Tekunin this.

If he lives, a similar case. He joins up with Noob and unite their cyborg forces so that they could kill their enemies, namely Sub-Zero.

His skills really need a some reworking. The missiles and teleport uppercut stay, but everything else goes. Add in lasers, pulse waves, Jet-pack oriented moves, anything that looks high tech.



Wow I like the concept of a cyborg deadly alliance but unfortunately this couldn't really be a big storyline as Smoke and Sektor aren't major characters so it would probably be a side story.


I like the idea of pulse waves I think that would be a pretty cool long ranged attack. I'd rather have the laser as a fatality maybe because Kano already has the laser as a special move. And I'm not so sure about the jet pack. Maybe it could be like Rains mind control orb somehow.



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I never liked Sektor because I never found there where much depth to the cyborgs in the earlier games.


It's not up until mortal kombat armageddon that I took a liking to Sektor. I thought his alternate costume was fantastic I just simply loved it. I really liked his teleport punch as well.


And his tekunin clan is diabolical.


That's all I really have to say about him in past games.


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To give Sektor a bigger involvement in future games I would make the tekunin have a full on feud with the lin kuei. This way he will be involved with a major character, but at the same time gaining popularity as an individual.


As for his pulse blades I say they need to go. They remind me of something out of star wars. I would prefer something like...He coverts his arm into a chainsaw.

I would like for him to have his alternate costume from armageddon as I think it looks more cyborg and high tech.


Special moves:


Fire ring: Sektor goes back a few steps and surrounds the opponent with a circle of fire. So if the opponent tries to leave the circle they get damaged. Therefore allowing Sektor to maybe blast the opponent with a rocket whilst they are incapable of moving.

Ray of light: Sektor emits a green light from his body temporarily blinding the opponent, therefore setting up for a free shot.

Cyber fly: Sektor does something like Ermacs telekinetic hover move.



Overall decent character...Not too bothered if he comes back.





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12/22/2007 06:07 AM (UTC)
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Sektor, lol, good old ketchup.

many people in the forum recognise my love for him as a character. lol

I believe he is truly one of the best characters in the series. There arent many left in the roster who remain truly dark and unknown in ways.

we have not seen sektors face, hw was the only willing participant to undergo transformation into the cyborg form he has now.

the entire idea of him being a man of great dedication, giving his won body to serve his clan, and to have that loyalty challanged by a malfunction after battle. it is his loyalty in a way that makes him go insane, his loyalty resulted in the transformation in which resulted in the possability of a malfunction.

his face never seen, his race never known. in the mk cartoon, sektor and cyrax were both shown, and sektor appeared to be an african american with dreadlocks while cyrax was of asian decent. this proved to be wrong as cyrax is now african american. it is unsure of what origin this red cyborg comes from.

loyalty turns to hate, friends to enemies, selflessness to power hungry. servant to leader.

although not of evil intentions, sektor in every way, goes from good to evil in a sense. has his own army now, very established character. strong, good story, plenty of plot ability with cyrax, sonya, jax, subzero, smoke, noob and maybe even frost. i can see frost and sektor getting into a conflict if subzero is defeated about the medallion.

also being a cyborg, he must be wise and able to evaluate situations. able to download fighting styles as cyrax was able to in mkda (explained in konquest). and therefore can upgrade and become stronger and experienced faster than almost any advisary.

my sights for sektor:

-another confrontation with subzero, during or afterwords involving noob or frost in one way or another.

-a final battle with cyrax that i believe he will win, this may throw the SF into turbo and prove to be his undoing however.

-further tekunin growth, i believe they are the next "black dragon" or "red dragon" clan.

-possably self sacrifise for subzero. maybe in the case of sektor defeating subzero, about to kill him, opr sub about to die, sektor's human counterpart would come through allowing him to make one decision to save his master even at the cost of himself. i would accept that as a fitting end.

-much stronger. i believe he will thrive to boss tier status. become a big big threat, that of shang or quan. i do not see him being as big as kahn or onaga. but a big enough threat to challange any power.


Sektor is without a doubt my fav mk character, and one of the only ones with any REAL potential, sure it could go a bit sci fi with him, but that doesnt mean it wouldnt be good. personally, i hope he dies within the next 2 games. hes amazing, i would hate for his character to be ruined like that of scorpion, johny cage or liu kang. end it while hes ontop.

-Casselman
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12/22/2007 04:45 PM (UTC)
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Given Sektor's story with the Tekunin, his chances of returning are probably higher than 50%, maybe 70% or something. I could see his story with the Tekunin expanding and becoming an enemy to the Lin Kuei and Special Forces as well as a possible ally to Noob Saibot and the Shadow Stalkers. If he doesn't return, he could perhaps be taken down with the combined might of Cyrax, Sub-Zero, and Sonya. There are other ideas such as the one in the MK: Resurrection story that Paragon, DNOMYTE, and I have worked on.

If he returns, I think they should get rid of the vertical missile and bring back the homing missile. It was cool that they turned his flamethrower from a fatality into a special move. For his styles, if they bring those back in some form, I think his gameplay style should be very direct and kind of militaristic, with a sort of "no-nonsense" approach. So I imagine something along the lines of Sun Bin Quan (General Sun Bin's Fist), Yuejia Quan (Yue Family Fist), and Ba Fa Quan (Eight Methods Fist). For his weapons, if they are going to have the Pulse Blades, they could be modeled after Jian (Chinese Straight Swords).

However, he could use some kind of Pulse Axe, one modeled after the Masakari, a Japanese axe used by Yamabushi (Mountain Warriors). The handle could be metal, and the edge of the axe blade would radiate with the energy. On the other hand, he could wield a pair of Pulse Axes, modeled after the Chinese Double Axe, with the edge of the axe blade radiating with the energy.

Look-wise and voice-wise, he's pretty good. Going back to his story for a bit, it's a matter of stepping him up as a villain and giving him an interesting goal. I sort of lean towards the favor of his return, but it depends on how his story turns out and which characters are involved in it.
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12/24/2007 10:51 AM (UTC)
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Good thread, m0s3pH. It’s a shame I’ve missed the other characters. I might write my thoughts on them anyway though and post them at a later date.

Sektor has always been a favourite of mine. It was brilliant to see his rather boring stoy take a turn for the better when the rivalry with Sub-Zero emerged and then the introduction of the Tekunin. It is a huge shame however, that this story hasn’t been utilised in the ways it could have been with only a cameo of sorts in MKA for the clan.

With the Tekunin behind him, Sektor would be a force to be reckoned with and I think he has an excellent chance of returning. It may not be right away but it could happen in the future and he could maybe have a background influence, running his clan underground of sorts. Involvement with the Special Forces, Cyrax in particular and perhaps Smoke would be interesting. Seeing his pursuit of Sub-Zero and the Dragon Medallion could lead to some interesting alliances and then there could be something completely unexpected.

Gameplay wise, he needs better styles. I agree that he should be able to download them like Cyrax does in MKDA. Hopefully they could comment on this and give him a better hand to hand and weapon style. Kenpo, though decent, is too unsafe and imo not suited to one of his sleek build and assumed agility. He needs a style that can take advanatage of this, whether it be a made up one. For weapons, the Pulse Blades are cool and should be used more like Quan Chi’s Broadswords. Or they could replace them with something more machine like by having his arms morph or having something eject itself from his body. Remember the mechanical arms he used as his throw in the 2D games? Perhaps something similar to those could be used. And speaking of those, they’d be interesting to use in battle in terms of defence and evasion.

Sektor with upgrades would be nice. Perhaps they could use a jet booster to make him fly or increase his movement speed. He has access to plenty of technology, especially now he’s apparently taken over Japan. It’s time to see it utilised.

Sektor has potential, like everyone else. He however has his chance wasted thus far. If he returns, they must utilise the strengths in his story to turn him into an even better and more interesting villain than he already is. If they can achieve this, then I see promising things for him.
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12/24/2007 06:10 PM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
Good thread, m0s3pH. It’s a shame I’ve missed the other characters. I might write my thoughts on them anyway though and post them at a later date.

Sektor has always been a favourite of mine. It was brilliant to see his rather boring stoy take a turn for the better when the rivalry with Sub-Zero emerged and then the introduction of the Tekunin. It is a huge shame however, that this story hasn’t been utilised in the ways it could have been with only a cameo of sorts in MKA for the clan.

With the Tekunin behind him, Sektor would be a force to be reckoned with and I think he has an excellent chance of returning. It may not be right away but it could happen in the future and he could maybe have a background influence, running his clan underground of sorts. Involvement with the Special Forces, Cyrax in particular and perhaps Smoke would be interesting. Seeing his pursuit of Sub-Zero and the Dragon Medallion could lead to some interesting alliances and then there could be something completely unexpected.

Gameplay wise, he needs better styles. I agree that he should be able to download them like Cyrax does in MKDA. Hopefully they could comment on this and give him a better hand to hand and weapon style. Kenpo, though decent, is too unsafe and imo not suited to one of his sleek build and assumed agility. He needs a style that can take advanatage of this, whether it be a made up one. For weapons, the Pulse Blades are cool and should be used more like Quan Chi’s Broadswords. Or they could replace them with something more machine like by having his arms morph or having something eject itself from his body. Remember the mechanical arms he used as his throw in the 2D games? Perhaps something similar to those could be used. And speaking of those, they’d be interesting to use in battle in terms of defence and evasion.

Sektor with upgrades would be nice. Perhaps they could use a jet booster to make him fly or increase his movement speed. He has access to plenty of technology, especially now he’s apparently taken over Japan. It’s time to see it utilised.

Sektor has potential, like everyone else. He however has his chance wasted thus far. If he returns, they must utilise the strengths in his story to turn him into an even better and more interesting villain than he already is. If they can achieve this, then I see promising things for him.


excellent post, i agree 100%

actually, your comment about sektor's weapon style possped a little idea into my head that i thaught of, not sure of whether or not i would like it, but its an idea none the less.

what if sektor's first fighting style was his sleek small and accurate body we have seen with a good fast fighting style hand to hand.

what if when you changed fighting styles, sektor actually changed form, upper body expanding and becoming bigger. similar to a boss characters stature, giving him more power and another more powerful moveset. like a boss character but faster.


dunno if it is a good idea, but it popped into my head.
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Casselman Wrote:
excellent post, i agree 100%
actually, your comment about sektor's weapon style possped a little idea into my head that i thaught of, not sure of whether or not i would like it, but its an idea none the less.
what if sektor's first fighting style was his sleek small and accurate body we have seen with a good fast fighting style hand to hand.
what if when you changed fighting styles, sektor actually changed form, upper body expanding and becoming bigger. similar to a boss characters stature, giving him more power and another more powerful moveset. like a boss character but faster.
dunno if it is a good idea, but it popped into my head.
-Casselman

Thanks, buddy!
I like the idea of Sektor becoming bigger and changing form in his weapon style. He could be powerful but slower and heavier as well for the sake of balance. It'd be nice to see such a thing with a cool Transformers type animation in game. It'd be interesting to see players adapt to something like that as it'd be somewhat like using Zelda & Sheik on SSBM, only more dramatic due to the change in speed and weight properties. This is one important realism factor MK needs to work on as they've not done so throughout MKDA - MKA.
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12/31/2007 12:46 AM (UTC)
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Next up: Stryker.
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12/31/2007 05:03 PM (UTC)
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I think that despite his improvements, Stryker doesn't have much chance of returning. I'd say his chances are maybe about 40-50%. I feel that he was put in just for completing the roster, and I don't think he has enough going for him to deserve to return. I never really liked him back in MK3-MKT as he didn't have much of a story and looked atrocious. Admittedly, when someone had suggested Stryker to return along with a S.W.A.T. type look (like Bayman from DOA), I didn't like the sound of it. But when I saw Stryker's new look for MKA (much more so his alternate costume), I thought it was kind of cool though the goggles for his primary costume are kind of goofy.

Gameplay-wise, he was somewhat fun to play as back in MK3 and is still somewhat fun to play as in MKA. It's cool that they took his tazer fatality from MK3 and made it into a special move. I would've liked his two nightstick related specials to return. He seems to be a very long-ranged fighter with his specials. On the other hand, his fighting styles are more close-ranged. I don't really like the style choice of Hua Chuan for him as I feel it doesn't quite suit him. I would've rather seen him use something like Krav Maga, Kajukenbo, or even Combat Sambo, and I would've liked him with just one Nightstick.

If Stryker does return, I definitely want him to keep the alternate costume look. There has to be quite a bit of explaining to do with his story from MK3-MKA as it is rather ambiguous and minor. He needs to be explored and properly developed. His ending made him out to be kind of like Batman, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, Kenshi's story has that sort of vigilante angle to it, so I'm not sure if the same could work for Stryker. I know some have suggested for Stryker to side with the Special Forces, which may not be too bad. There are definitely some ideas for him, but I just don't have enough interest to see him return. I'm glad that they improved his look and aesthetic, but I'm still not a fan of him.
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12/31/2007 05:55 PM (UTC)
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very underated character for me.
first off my comment isn't fair 'cause Stryker is one of my fav,and mabe only Minion likes Stryker more than me...
in mk3 ha haven' such a big role:fighting alongside other heroes and defeat shao kahn and his extermination squads.
It's not his fault,he have a charismatic enough character to be intriguing and interesting.I think that Midway is the true guilty of stryker failure.
i like him for a lot of reasons:
1)he is nota superhero guy;he wears a blue t-shirt and black pants.
He's not a model,he is old and mature appearance.
He is a true man instead of that fag of Liu.
2)his special moves are cool:he uses grenades,guns and his legendary nightstick.Only the best characters does have a signature item,like Cage sunglsses,Kabal hookswords,kitana's steel fan and maybe kung lao hat.
Liu,and almost all the rest of charactr haven't a specific signature that distinguish 'em to other warriors.
3)he is one of the best characters of UMK3,his jugles are imressive,his special take a lot of damage and have fairy long combos.He is also easy to use.
4)his fatalities are acceptable:his c4 detonation is one of the best mk3 fatalities.Hwever mk3 haven't such cool fatals to show.his laser gun fatality is cheap but i think is somewhat realistical,without useness explotions and tons of blood.
5)in mk armageddon we don't know anything about hum...what a waste!
his look is changed in well since now.His leather jacket and leather pants with blue lines and tactical glasses is cool.In armageddon he is the most improved character.His alternative is also fun,a micx between classic attire and new one.
his hand on hand combat style sucks,with short combos and few damages.I doubt that he can throw is enemy in the air to connect with an aerial combo.Another Midway mistake:make characters that hardly can execute air combos.
his weapon style is excellent:nightsticks fit him as signature items,but are also quicker and more effective than Jax's Tonfa.
5)i doubt,unluckly,that Stryker will return.His armageddon ending don't open any new gate for him.Even tough he is a waste of potential.
6)if for some kind of miracle he is going to return,Midway doesn't need to change his attire.All that he needs is a more appropiate fighting style(kickboxing or kenpo suits better to him).He need also a real storyline to play trough,but this is a problem that regards all characters except scorpion and sub zero.

i think that Stryker won't surivive to armageddon,but he deserves a second chance.
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12/31/2007 06:04 PM (UTC)
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i doubt he'll return he dose not have a big enough role in the games
if he did he should have a bigger role
Well, poor Kurt Stryker happens to be an underdog in this generation. Much more so since his bio was never released, leaving a huge-ass plothole from MK3-MKA. This needs to change for him to move on.

His look in MK3 was the innacle of awesomeness. Nobody would expect an average cop to kick your ass! MKA's outfits are kinda meh to me since he now looks like come cybercop (Especially his MKA alt, which I call the E-SWAT). His primary was okay to me. One joke idea I also got was from the MIB movies. Men In Black anyone?

His skills were cool, but I gots to say, Hua Chuan totally blew for me. Maybe for a comeback he should use Krav Maga. Nightsticks seem cool for weapons, but has anyone explained the daggers yet? What are they for?

All his specials rock. Nuff said. If possible, try adding tear gas or mace.

Now, for his story, I've been recently working on a fanfic. His story would involve some death to a friend of his (Not mokap.). Soon after, he gets booted from the force and is sent to beggarhood. In time, he eventually finds himself in a new job as the OWIA recruit him to replace some members lost in the battle of Armageddon. He then is sent to Outworld to prove his worth to some of the higher ranking officers who still don't trust him.

All in all, He should be our definitive street cop charater. Even to his theme song, which is found here. COPS, peeps.



Peace.
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10/06/2008 01:33 AM (UTC)
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I would like to see something come up from the Earth's core that spews lava over everything and scald everyone
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06/08/2011 03:30 AM (UTC)
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Ok lets all get one thing straight: the MK team is made up of abunch of total idiots, because smart people wouldn't reboot an already bad storyline just because they think they'd get it better the second time around.furious
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06/08/2011 04:03 AM (UTC)
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One thing i've learned is that all of us can think up better stories than NR studios.furious
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