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dreemernj
03/06/2005 01:01 AM (UTC)
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Most unfortunate.

Its really a shame that Nintendo never got the gameplay as close as other companies. MK3 and UMK3 for SNES the gameplay is more off then the counterparts for Genesis, and then MKT for N64 is WAY off compared to PSX. I wonder why that keeps happening.

Was MK4 for N64 close to arcade as far as gameplay? Is there anyone on this message board that would know? I know the focus isn't usually on the gameplay here and MK4 didn't have very good gameplay so it seems like it'd be the hardest to find an expert for.
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Nikodemus
03/07/2005 03:17 AM (UTC)
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MK1: Sega Gen
MK2: (MAT2 GC,X-Box, Playstation2), Sega 32X, Super Nintendo
MK3: (MAT2 GC, X-Box, Playstation2), Sony Playstation
UMK3: Sega Saturn
MKT: Sega Saturn/Playstation (they are pretty much identical)
MK4: Playstation
MKG: Dreamcast (thats the only system it came out for)

Worst conversions:

MK1: Super Nintendo
MK2: Sega Gen, Sega Saturn
MK3: Sega Gen
MK4: N64
UMK3: Sega Gen, Super Nintendo
MKT: N64
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dreemernj
03/07/2005 03:40 AM (UTC)
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$Saturn_MKT != $PSX_MKT;
$PSX_MKT > $Saturn_MKT;
$PSX_MKT == $_deity;
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Percebe
03/07/2005 04:05 AM (UTC)
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Who knows MK1 for Sega CD?
I am looking for some informations about this conversion.
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dreemernj
03/07/2005 06:06 AM (UTC)
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Hey look I discovered a new hidden character in MK1!

Puke!


Whoops, my bad. That's just how bad Genesis was.
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03/07/2005 06:13 AM (UTC)
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As far as I've ever seen MK4 N64 plays like the arcade, but there could be some differences at very high level of play.


Sega CD MK1 is like Genesis but with the arcade soundtrack/sound effects, a few added details in the stages and lots and lots of load time.
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Lin_83_Kuei
03/12/2005 02:57 AM (UTC)
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PC version.
Same as the original.
Same goes for the MK2 and MK3 but not MK4 that had some minor changes and the horrible shadows :|
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dreemernj
03/12/2005 03:42 AM (UTC)
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Lin_83_Kuei Wrote:
PC version.
Same as the original.
Same goes for the MK2 and MK3 but not MK4 that had some minor changes and the horrible shadows :|


MK4 for the PC had about 1/100th the number of polygons as the arcade did which led to the disasterously bad graphics.
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psyclobex
03/12/2005 11:28 PM (UTC)
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I finally got mat2 im disappointed with the flickering shadows rather then that its alright but no where as good as mame its a shame midway are drunks.
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jlacroix
03/13/2005 12:45 AM (UTC)
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I don't understand why you are insulting the PSX version. The loading is extremely fast, smooth animation without a single missing frame. You say that the music is bad, but it's CD quality, exactly the same as the arcade but it has even better stereo.

Personally I think that you have your epsxe set up with bad plugins, because for me the PSX version is at least 98% arcade perfect.

The midi music on SNES sounds extremely fake. To see what I mean, put your MK Trilogy PSX cd in a music cd player and listen to the music from the MK2 levels. Then, play the snes game. You will notice that the music in SNES is not even 10% similair to the real thing. The snes version keeps the same rythym, but barely. It's a very good port though, but it was good because back then that was all we had. Another comparison to the music was how in The Armory, there were screams of pain made into the beat of the music, which was of course cut from the snes version.

Furthermore, the SNES versions characters were cut down to be much smaller in order for them to fit in memory, with frames of animation cut, also to save memory. The whole game seemed force.

Again, the SNES version was the best port back when it was the only halfway decent one we had, but truthfully compared to today's standards it falls behind quite a bit.
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jlacroix
03/13/2005 12:48 AM (UTC)
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BTW, can anyone PLEASE tell me what configuration MK2 for mame actually works on.
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03/13/2005 01:41 AM (UTC)
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What do you mean by configuration? Do you mean CPU specs, or MAME internal options?

Matt
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Percebe
03/13/2005 06:08 AM (UTC)
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I really don't like PSX version and some sound effects from arcade. You're right, MK 2 music from Arcade is superb and SNES have some exclusive midi musics, they are good in fact, and the sound effects are the best and I am not comparing SNES and arcade hardware.

Please read my post and try to understand my point of view.

PSX version is very easy, Arcade is HARD (you may not choose medium or hard difficulty for PSX and easy / very easy difficulty for arcade).

SNES don't have this problem.
There are a lot of minor differences and in near future I will post all of them.
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jlacroix
03/14/2005 03:31 AM (UTC)
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When I am referring to Mame settings, I am referring to optimizing Mame to run at a good frame rate. Settings inside its preferences window, or maybe just an all around fast Mame version.

Percebe, I mean no offense to you. I just don't feel that the Snes version was all that great. The Midway Arcade Treasures and PSX version are much better, and I am not going on an on about my opionion, I am saying this as fact, judging by all the stuff cut from the snes version.

And by the way, you can increase the difficulty in the PSX version.
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Rains_Daddy
03/20/2005 02:19 AM (UTC)
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ok best MK1 is X-box dude it has all the quirks of the arcade and still has the 50% combo with Sub-Zero
MK2 I like the SNES and X-Box versions
MK3 it was a crap game but i liked PSX
UMK3 no comparision the arcade cant be beat

wow
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Percebe
03/20/2005 06:11 PM (UTC)
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MK 2 for X-BOX? I never heard anything about...
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Kintaro1237
03/20/2005 06:42 PM (UTC)
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MK1, The Sega Geneis, It has the blood and Guts. Were Super NES left them out. That along gives brownie points to Geneis(Yeah and the up down left right hold A down sel?? Ok I forgot about the code,)

MK2 Super Nes. But Sega was almost as bad.

MK3 Super NES

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mkflegend
03/20/2005 09:51 PM (UTC)
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MK1=Genesis...but the controller is crap for MK(SNES much better)
MK2=Definitely the the SNES,it was a perfect conversion from the arcade,gameplay wise and fatality and blood wise.The sound was sligtly off but dam close.The Genesis version blowed completely.
MK3=SNES and PS/PC too(although i cant see playing a game like mk on the PC)
UMK3=SNES and PS1
MK4=Hands down the N64 over the PS....i played both the N64 version is way way way better than the PS version any day of the week!!!!!!!Anyone who actually thinks the MK4 version is better on the PS is a crack head and should be slapped.Pc version of MK4 was good too,if you can buy a good controller for it.gringringrin
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Zero_Beats
03/20/2005 10:11 PM (UTC)
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Let's make it simple. I'm not counting MAT2, because it's based on the Arcade hits! We're discussing console versions here.

Best
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MK1- Genesis- Fast and bloody

MK2- Snes- Nice graphics and all sounds

MK3-Snes- The only best console version, next best thing to the arcade, otherwise PSX

UMK3- Saturn- The only best console version, next best thing to the arcade

MK4- Dreamcast (MK Gold)- Pure arcade port, probably smoother graphics, no loading at all


Yughhhh- Worst
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MK1- Sega CD- Just a crappy Genesis software with a few loud arcade tracks? Lol.

MK2- Genesis- Not a serious release. I guess MK2 and later were too big to squeeze on poor 16-bit genesis.

MK3- Genesis- Need I say more?

UMK3- Genesis- (Look at MK3- Genesis)

MK4- N64- Boxy graphics, poor sound effects
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mkflegend
03/20/2005 10:31 PM (UTC)
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I just disagree with you about MK4 on N64....i thought it was much better than the PS.....but i dont have any sega systems now so i forgot about the sweet version for the Dreamcast MK4/MKGOLD.
I should get gold.gringrin
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migueltwecorral
03/21/2005 04:24 AM (UTC)
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MK2 Sega Genesis conversion, I could win against Kintaro in the Sega Version of MK2.grin
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Zero_Beats
03/21/2005 04:58 AM (UTC)
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migueltwecorral Wrote:
MK2 Sega Genesis conversion, I could win against Kintaro in the Sega Version of MK2.grin


Wow, you were actually able to stand that long on Genesis? I'd be color blind after fighting Kintaro.
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03/21/2005 07:43 AM (UTC)
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You might have also been fooled into thinking you were color blind when the select screen came on, in fact, a person who actually is color blind might not be able to make out who the characters are.

Matt
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