i agree
since quan chi is the best villian ever he should be the best villian ever

so far he is doing everything i expected him to do

i hope they keep the storyline of him sending mavado to kill sub-zero

he should focus more on kiliing sub-zero since they are also enemies

i also want him to say this "oh god, i hate ninjas!"

timsmk Wrote: Now that Shang has made his return, I personally feel he should go to rest again, it was great to see him return and everything, but now, I think that Quan Chi, should return for just one more appearence, and do something REALLY sinister, and then perhaps die, lol. Anyhow, let's chat .

I agree. Shang should stay dead by Kung Lao's hands and Quan Chi should return for one last appearance in MK6. Do you guys remember Drahmin's ending where he pushes Quan Chi into that room of light? Well I think that perhaps Quan Chi could have somehow absorbed Drahmin's strength, leaving Drahmin to return back to his normal form like he was 500 years ago. Quan Chi has Shinnok's amulet and of course he was trying to use that to control the Dragon King's army. But now that the Dragon King will return, he will take control of his army (most likely along with the warrior with Li Mei's soul in it) It might not be so much of a surprise if the Dragon King plans to take over Outworld and Earthrealm and all other realms. I think that perhaps Quan Chi will try to find a way to take the Dragon King's power and have it for himself so that he can take over and rule all realms. Of course, Quan Chi needs help so he has Mavado and the Red Dragon to help him. And of course, according to Mavado's ending, Mavado will prepare his Red Dragon clan to destroy Sub-Zero and the Lin Kuei since Sub-Zero is a great enemy to Quan Chi. And as for where Moloch is concerned, I bet as soon as Quan Chi got out of that room, he probably destroyed Moloch. (I'm not sure about Drahmin, but if Quan was busy destroying Moloch, then perhaps Drahmin could have had the chance to escape and to eventually join the Dragon King.)

As for the gameplay aspects, I don't remember a whole lot since I was busy playing as Sub-Zero, Raiden, and Scorpion in MKDA!!!

Although this is not the Pocket Kombat Discussion, I will go by what I have learned from my experiences playing as Shang and Quan in the GBA version of MKDA.

Shang Tsung's Snake style: relatively fast but a lack of any double hitters. Combos weren't that easy to pull off without using a special move or a weapon attack.

Shang Tsung's Crane style: less mobile but more useful moves

overall (with special moves and weapon attacks): weapon attacks are very good and of course he can morph in this version of the game

Quan Chi's Tang Soo Do style: an ok style with some ok moves

Quan Chi's Escrima style: slow, not that effective

overall (....): weapon attacks are also good here and his special moves are good as well

As for movies, I guess I'm expecting to see Quan Chi in the MK3 movie. I think it would be interesting and fun.

SubZero7th's post.
(Not gonna press add text to post, lol)

Of course, that is assuming that those endings you mentioned come true.
Some of those may of course not, and I would place too many bets that Mavado will return in MK6. I'm not sure why.

timsmk Wrote: SubZero7th's post. (Not gonna press add text to post, lol) Of course, that is assuming that those endings you mentioned come true. Some of those may of course not, and I would place too many bets that Mavado will return in MK6. I'm not sure why.

LOL! Well of course all the endings are what if scenarios, but then again there are times when I do consider some of MK endings as endings that have connections to each other and that certain parts will occur in the storyline.

I think that when we talk about Quan Chi, we should also discuss about Scorpion as well. After learning that Quan Chi killed his family and clan, Scorpion has vowed to find and eliminate Quan Chi. Although, I just got through finished saying that the endings are what ifs, we still should take Scorpion's ending into thought. If that ending actually happened, perhaps he was transformed into another type of entity. And perhaps he will return somehow in MK6 to finally try to destroy Quan Chi once and for all. However, if Scorpion did kill Quan Chi, then what would be left for Scorpion in terms of having a purpose in the MK storyline? His only real purpose in MKDA was to kill Quan Chi and if he accomplishes killing Quan in MK6, then what will be of him?? Probably NOTHING!! So, what I'm saying is that perhaps Quan Chi should die at the hands of someone else, perhaps someone such as Noob Saibot. Noob Saibot does/did work for Shinnok and Quan Chi did doublecross Shinnok by making duplicates of Shinnok's amulet and tricking both Raiden and Shinnok. I think maybe either way, Scorpion's purpose will fade away. Or, if Noob did kill Quan, then Scorpion could be pissed off at Noob and try to destroy him. There is also the possibility of Sub-Zero killing Quan Chi and Scorpion hating Sub-Zero once more. I think that the people who write the storyline should try to take Scorpion's storyline away from the whole "trying to kill somebody to avenge somebody else" role. Scorpion's one of my most favorite characters and he deserves a greater purpose. Maybe if he did transform into someone from the heavens, perhaps his purpose will be there.

Anyone stopped to think that MK6(or possibly MK7) could be the end of the Mortal Kombat series? Judging from the events of MKDA, a war is brewing and soon sides will be taken to end it once and for all. Soon the special forces will join the Lin Kuei, and the Red dragon has already joined Quan Chi, it'll just continue like this till there is 2 distinct, opposing sides(Scorpion will have no choice but to join the side of good since the odds will be very high. Although they would have to promise him that only he gets a shot at Quan Chi in order to end his damnation once and for all).

I believe that when the Dragon King arrives, there could very well be a war and the series' end is very close by. There will be no neutral. Only good and evil. Join a side or you'll only get in the way and be trampled.

The Deadly alliance is dead. They, Quan and Shang, destroyed it in there own endings and in just about every other ending it was defeated as well. There is no way that it would have lasted. I love Shang but it's time to move on, I don't think he'll be in MK6. Quan, I'm not sure about. With the way Drahmin's ending went, I think he'll be back, altered like drahmin was or just weakend, but alive. The one thing that I didn't like about him in MK:DA was the fact that they said he was 6'7" and the in-game model was no bigger than say kenshi who was supposed to be 6'1." I hope next time we see him...erm, everyone...I hope they are rendered to scale.

GrimGrin:D Wrote: Anyone stopped to think that MK6(or possibly MK7) could be the end of the Mortal Kombat series? Judging from the events of MKDA, a war is brewing and soon sides will be taken to end it once and for all. Soon the special forces will join the Lin Kuei, and the Red dragon has already joined Quan Chi, it'll just continue like this till there is 2 distinct, opposing sides(Scorpion will have no choice but to join the side of good since the odds will be very high. Although they would have to promise him that only he gets a shot at Quan Chi in order to end his damnation once and for all). I believe that when the Dragon King arrives, there could very well be a war and the series' end is very close by. There will be no neutral. Only good and evil. Join a side or you'll only get in the way and be trampled.

I disagree. There are other characters who will probably help continue the MK storyline. Like what the MK team said, Reiko has some connection to Shao Kahn and they also said that we have not seen the last of Shao Kahn. But then again, there are also other characters that should make a return and of course some other evil forces.

why would quan chi be weakened after drahmin's ending?

he fell into a thing that makes him stronger

thats why drahmin came back human..it gave him back his health and life force that the netherealm took from him

mister_satan666 Wrote: why would quan chi be weakened after drahmin's ending? he fell into a thing that makes him stronger thats why drahmin came back human..it gave him back his health and life force that the netherealm took from him

Whose post are you referring to?

"Quan, I'm not sure about. With the way Drahmin's ending went, I think he'll be back, altered like drahmin was or just weakend, but alive"
oops i fucked up it wasn't grim's sorry for the confusion

mister_satan666 Wrote: "Quan, I'm not sure about. With the way Drahmin's ending went, I think he'll be back, altered like drahmin was or just weakend, but alive" grim's

ok, I understand. I do agree with you mister_satan666. Quan Chi would become stronger, not weaker and I would like to see Quan be stronger like that.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: GrimGrin:D Wrote: Anyone stopped to think that MK6(or possibly MK7) could be the end of the Mortal Kombat series? Judging from the events of MKDA, a war is brewing and soon sides will be taken to end it once and for all. Soon the special forces will join the Lin Kuei, and the Red dragon has already joined Quan Chi, it'll just continue like this till there is 2 distinct, opposing sides(Scorpion will have no choice but to join the side of good since the odds will be very high. Although they would have to promise him that only he gets a shot at Quan Chi in order to end his damnation once and for all). I believe that when the Dragon King arrives, there could very well be a war and the series' end is very close by. There will be no neutral. Only good and evil. Join a side or you'll only get in the way and be trampled. I disagree. There are other characters who will probably help continue the MK storyline. Like what the MK team said, Reiko has some connection to Shao Kahn and they also said that we have not seen the last of Shao Kahn. But then again, there are also other characters that should make a return and of course some other evil forces.

Yes I see your point. But everything has an end(only thing keeping Final Fantasy going is a different story altogeter every game and different characters as well). I mean, they've been waging this war for years now. I mean, there literally has been like one Mortal Kombat tournament in the whole series. The rest are random attacks on the earth. It's an ongoing soap opera now(which is actually good imo)and there is still no winner. Just a checkmate for each side every time...Oh well, I guess I'm glad they're keepinng it like this. Keep the new characters coming and let Mortal Kombat kontinue. It sure would be a shame to see it end.

GrimGrin:D Wrote: Yes I see your point. But everything has an end(only thing keeping Final Fantasy going is a different story altogeter every game and different characters as well). I mean, they've been waging this war for years now. I mean, there literally has been like one Mortal Kombat tournament in the whole series. The rest are random attacks on the earth. It's an ongoing soap opera now(which is actually good imo)and there is still no winner. Just a checkmate for each side every time...Oh well, I guess I'm glad they're keepinng it like this. Keep the new characters coming and let Mortal Kombat kontinue. It sure would be a shame to see it end.

Well there are 2 tournaments. Although the tournament in MK2 was illegal, it was still a tournament. The MK3 series had Shao Kahn being angry for his loss and decides to try it for one last time. Then Shinnok is freed from the Netherealm and tries to conquer Earthrealm in MK4/MKG. And of course Shang Tsung and Quan Chi team up in MKDA to take over Earthrealm and Outworld. I think that it would be interesting if they had a character (kind of like Rayden in MK1) who doesn't want to rule Earth, but to simply destroy it.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: Well there are 2 tournaments. Although the tournament in MK2 was illegal, it was still a tournament. The MK3 series had Shao Kahn being angry for his loss and decides to try it for one last time. Then Shinnok is freed from the Netherealm and tries to conquer Earthrealm in MK4/MKG. And of course Shang Tsung and Quan Chi team up in MKDA to take over Earthrealm and Outworld. I think that it would be interesting if they had a character (kind of like Rayden in MK1) who doesn't want to rule Earth, but to simply destroy it.

In MK3, it wasn't Kahn trying again for one last time was it?
I thought that was when he invaded disregarding the rules, you know, the whole Sindel being reborn so he can pass through the portal.
He wasn't exactly trying again, as I recall, because it says "He enacted a plan that began over 10 000 years ago."

But, there is definately enough story opportunities to keep it going, and I doubt that Mortal Kombat will end soon, it's Midway's most valuable asset, and with them not in the best position at the moment, I don't think it will be ending anytime soon.

Sub-Zero_7th Wrote: GrimGrin:D Wrote: Yes I see your point. But everything has an end(only thing keeping Final Fantasy going is a different story altogeter every game and different characters as well). I mean, they've been waging this war for years now. I mean, there literally has been like one Mortal Kombat tournament in the whole series. The rest are random attacks on the earth. It's an ongoing soap opera now(which is actually good imo)and there is still no winner. Just a checkmate for each side every time...Oh well, I guess I'm glad they're keepinng it like this. Keep the new characters coming and let Mortal Kombat kontinue. It sure would be a shame to see it end. Well there are 2 tournaments. Although the tournament in MK2 was illegal, it was still a tournament. The MK3 series had Shao Kahn being angry for his loss and decides to try it for one last time. Then Shinnok is freed from the Netherealm and tries to conquer Earthrealm in MK4/MKG. And of course Shang Tsung and Quan Chi team up in MKDA to take over Earthrealm and Outworld. I think that it would be interesting if they had a character (kind of like Rayden in MK1) who doesn't want to rule Earth, but to simply destroy it.

Hmmm...Just remembered Raiden in MK1...All new ideas come to mind now...If he simply wanted to destroy it for no good reason whatsoever, why would he all of a sudden have a change of heart and become earth's protector? Some kind of rivalry perhaps? Could Boon actually be using the plot point made for the movie that Raiden and Kahn are brothers?

I'm beginning to think we should just forget MK1 altogether because of the plot holes...eh, what do I know. I'm proven wrong every time I open my mouth here(or in this case even touch a key).

what plot holes in mk1?

raiden's ending just wasn't carried over like others were

mister_satan666 Wrote: what plot holes in mk1? raiden's ending just wasn't carried over like others were

Raiden's whole personality completely changed. His ending wouldn't have turned out the way it did if his personality and reason for being in the tournament was the same as what it is now. Besides, remember in MK Mythologies, Raiden was a good guy there I think, and in MK4 he said the war with Shinnok was eons ago, so with that in mind his actions in MK1 didn't make much sense.

And by the way, I don't think it was ever Raiden's intention to destroy the Earth, I think his MK1 ending showed a misjudgement of his own power.

raiden was always a good guy

when wasn't he?

and he meant the first war with shinnok

the one that got him banished

that was eons ago

i fail to see your point

The only time that Rayden wasn't completely a good guy was in Mortal Kombat Conquest when he had to fight Shao Kahn or something. In that episode he made it a point to get drunk and pick up a hooker. It sounds like a joke bu they literally did this in the series. That's why I stopped walking.

NovaStarr Wrote: The only time that Rayden wasn't completely a good guy was in Mortal Kombat Conquest when he had to fight Shao Kahn or something. In that episode he made it a point to get drunk and pick up a hooker. It sounds like a joke bu they literally did this in the series. That's why I stopped walking.

LOL! DAMNIT WHEN ARE THEY RELEASING THIS ON DVD?!?

So many agree that Shang should be laid to rest, at least for a while, and that Quan should perhaps be the one to return.
But, my question would be:
What would he do?
So far he has done pretty well, releasing a fallen elder god from the netherealm (who turned out to not be that frightening ), form an alliance with another enemy of the "mortals", but what would he do next?
If the dragon king is going to return in mk6, which I think has been confirmed? Do you think Quan would try to win his favour, or go up against him, but not allied with the mortals, or something else?

I think Quan Chi should be a resisting evil force to the Dragon King, having his own allies and trying to defeat both the Dragon King and the Earth Warriors.

And Mr Satan, just look at Raiden's MK1 ending, and you'll see that the Raiden we all know and love would never let that happen. He wouldn't enter the tournament just to show off his power, but according to MK1 he did.

was that ending ever used?

nope

so it never happened

I also agree Tsung should be gone now. I actually like him a lot more then Quan Chi, Tsung is one of my faves, his moves, fatalities, story, its all exelent, but I think its time to give Quan a chance.

BTW, I think Tsung is much more evil and powerfull then the bald guy.