deceptions sub-zero is actually the younger brother who hasnt been around since mk2 *MKD Spoilers*
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posted10/24/2004 07:32 PM (UTC)by
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Riddict
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10/19/2004 07:34 PM (UTC)
in mk3, we saw a new sub zero unmasked. why you ask? cause this is actually the classic sub zero . the scar is there because scorpion killed him in mk 1. he became noob saibot, though, when hydro shall we say, the younger brother, came into play in mk2, noob was in there hidden. in 3, noob shifts to visible form, thus posing as young sub zero, but allegedly was attacked. and who is his close friend through out 3 and umk3? cyber smoke. now in mk 4, that is still classic sub, not the brother. same through deadly alliance. frost dies, and sub zero didn't really give two shits bout frost in DA, so why would he be concerned with burying her? cause it's hydro.
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why is it noob smoke in deception? cause remember, sub and smoke were good buddies. not younger brother and smoke. that is your story, hydro, the so called name of the younger brother, hasn't been around since mk2. it has been the real sub zero. the original sub zero.

Refrain from posting Spoilers and Secret Characters without a warning. It's disrespectful to the users that like a few surprises in their game. Not to mention it's against site policy.
Sincerely,
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10/22/2004 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Uh.....right.
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DrCube
10/22/2004 11:58 PM (UTC)
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Where did this theory come from?
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Sub_One-Niner
10/23/2004 12:05 AM (UTC)
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In a word...........no.
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Riddict
10/23/2004 01:01 AM (UTC)
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explain why noob is sub zero yet subzero is in the game? this isn't some trilogy crap where you get to have pallet swap heaven, theres more to it. hence deception? there is more to the name than all of you care to explore. god, if it isn't your way its wrong. piss off, the whole idea is to make what you want of it, since mk charecters never die anyway. this was joked about in the opening cinema where raiden dies, shang dies, but both come back and are just like, ok were back, lets fight together now. no scar on sub zero's eye in deception. but he has it in DA. do you have a better explaination? i think noob smoke ending says it all. and if your open minded, you'll see thats just one out of several ways to look at it. im just talking in general to those who like constructive thoughts. goddamn nerds on here i swear, it's freakin sad. nothing but bitch. can't even just talk. piss off
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10/23/2004 01:54 AM (UTC)
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Um, Noob-Smoke's ending in MKD makes it clear the armored Sub in MKD is the younger brother, so the scar is irrelevant.
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10/23/2004 02:07 AM (UTC)
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riddict Wrote:
explain why noob is sub zero yet subzero is in the game? this isn't some trilogy crap where you get to have pallet swap heaven, theres more to it. hence deception? there is more to the name than all of you care to explore. god, if it isn't your way its wrong. piss off, the whole idea is to make what you want of it, since mk charecters never die anyway. this was joked about in the opening cinema where raiden dies, shang dies, but both come back and are just like, ok were back, lets fight together now. no scar on sub zero's eye in deception. but he has it in DA. do you have a better explaination? i think noob smoke ending says it all. and if your open minded, you'll see thats just one out of several ways to look at it. im just talking in general to those who like constructive thoughts. goddamn nerds on here i swear, it's freakin sad. nothing but bitch. can't even just talk. piss off


If you don't like our responses, then don't fuckin post shit. If anyones a crybaby, it's you. You've done more bitching in the last couple of days than most of us have done in our time on this site. And I'm not talking about complaining about any MK game here, we're talking about you complaining about other people, whether it be their views, theories, anything they say, etc.

Now that's sad. wink
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10/23/2004 02:08 AM (UTC)
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no kidding, thats what i've been trying to say, its the younger brother. and that it hasn't been the younger brother since mk2. beat mk2 with sub zero if you don't know. wow , read my post again, slowly, you'll see thats what i'm saying. jeez
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Riddict
10/23/2004 02:20 AM (UTC)
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gee i thought thats how you got in good here, by bitching all the time. cause thats all i seen since joining was nothing but pissing and moaning, so i joined the crowd, only i went against ya with the pissing and moaning, thats why you don't like me. if i woulda started up about the damn glitches in the mk's and bitched, you'all woulda been my friend. cause i woulda been just like all of you. this is just a computer. and if the things i write bother you, stay out of em. and like i said, i've stopped posting in any other thread other than responding to replies in my own threads, so don't worry bout me, stay outta my stuff. cause my topics are aimed at people who talk, not bitch all the time. i could type ya to death, but, i think that would hurt to much. this is all over mat2. isn't that pathetic? i can't accept people who hate it, and you can't accept people who like it. get over it. i own my own arcade. i don't care. those who do nothing but complain, stay out of my threads, i'm only trying to reach cool people who are just here to have fun and learn some tips.
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10/23/2004 03:42 AM (UTC)
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Don't get me wrong, I think your theory is pretty damn dumb, but I'm going to play the nice guy and instead of call you on it, I'll just ask how you came up with this.

I want to know the thought process that went into this when we've clearly had the same Sub since MK2.

Explain yourself.
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10/23/2004 04:49 AM (UTC)
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riddict Wrote:
gee i thought thats how you got in good here, by bitching all the time. cause thats all i seen since joining was nothing but pissing and moaning, so i joined the crowd, only i went against ya with the pissing and moaning, thats why you don't like me. if i woulda started up about the damn glitches in the mk's and bitched, you'all woulda been my friend. cause i woulda been just like all of you. this is just a computer. and if the things i write bother you, stay out of em. and like i said, i've stopped posting in any other thread other than responding to replies in my own threads, so don't worry bout me, stay outta my stuff. cause my topics are aimed at people who talk, not bitch all the time. i could type ya to death, but, i think that would hurt to much. this is all over mat2. isn't that pathetic? i can't accept people who hate it, and you can't accept people who like it. get over it. i own my own arcade. i don't care. those who do nothing but complain, stay out of my threads, i'm only trying to reach cool people who are just here to have fun and learn some tips.


Well that's a knuckleheaded remark if i ever saw one. Bitch is one thing, constructive criticism is another. Recognize the difference. As for us not liking you (or me specifically, you didn't say) that's also a dumb remark. People have been giving you shit simply because of the fact that you came strolling in trying to press your opinions on other people which tends to get them irrate. On top of that, you act like a know-it-all ass. That's a dangerous combination. The only reason people keep coming in your threads is because you came in theirs originally to throw salt in their game. I remember you doing it to mine specifically. Now you're telling people to stay out of your thread? Haha, wow. How absolutely hypocritical of you.

You own the arcade. Great. We've already established that. What relevence does that have? That was what all of the "haters" were trying to say, that most peeps don't have the arcade so we need a substitute and what we got was a poor substitute.

My advice to you son (I say that semi-sarcastically considering you sound like you're about 14-16 yrs old) is to stop taking shots at people. And stop creating threads that you know will stir people up and start wars that begin to throw flamage all over the place.

As far as me not posting in your threads anymore, you got it bud. But the next time I see you spouting off in one of mine, prepare for the onslaught to come with me when I crash yours.
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10/23/2004 05:19 AM (UTC)
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...okay, let me see if I can break down your theory logically.
According to you, the original Sub-Zero who was in MK1 and became Noob Saibot was the scarred Sub-Zero in MK3, 4, and Deadly Alliance. And the younger brother who was in MK2 has only returned now in Deception.

Okay, I'll play along.

Now, answer these questions for me:
1)How was Noob Saibot also in UMK3 and Trilogy with his own storyline and ending?
2) If the scarred Sub-Zero is the original like you claim, why was Scorpion protecting him in his ending in UMK3? If he was the original who killed Scorpion, wouldn't Scorpion be trying to kill him?
3) Explain why Sub-Zero's MK4 bio refers to his older brother's journey into the Netherealm which was in Mythologies. And don't say that was a different Sub-Zero because in Mythologies you kill Scorpion.
4) If the original Sub-Zero was in MK:DA, reforming the Lin Kuei, how was he also serving Shao Kahn as Noob Saibot and killing Goro at the same time?
5) According to your theory, the Sub-Zero in DA was the original and Frost tried to steal his medallion. Then how come in Deception, Sub-Zero who you claim is the younger brother who hasn't been seen since MK2, says in his bio Frost tried to steal "my medallion."
6) Why did Sub-Zero in DA offer to let Sareena stay with the Lin Kuei in return for her helping his older brother in the Netherealm if he was the same guy?
7) If the younger brother's been gone this whole time, where the hell has he been? And why is he only now returning? And how did he get into Outworld and how did he know about Frost?
8) What do you mean Sub-Zero didn't give a shit about Frost in DA? He trained her himself, took her with him in Outworld and if you've seen Frost's DA ending, he's obviously upset that she's dying.

Now you asked where did Sub-Zero's scar go. My guess, the Medallion healed it.


And one other note: Raiden and Shang Tsung didn't die and come back in the intro. They were knocked out and then woke up. Other than them falling on the ground, I got no other indication that Quan Chi killed them both.
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10/23/2004 09:26 AM (UTC)
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No one cares about this guy's "opinions" because of how brazen he is with everything. I look at it as entertainment.

Just take the storyline for what it is, you don't have to read into everything.

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10/24/2004 07:32 PM (UTC)
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i can see where he's coming from with this.we all know there is a different outcome no matter what with every differen charecter. or variations of the same ending. all mk games have been that way. and by the way, that opening movie is them dying, and coming back to life cause no one dies in mortal kombat. baraka has been killed, raiden has been killed, scorpion, hell, the whole idea is that no one dies. when you play the game, and you do a fatality on mileena, she's dead. but bam, there she is again waiting to fight another day. those who die in mortal kombat don't stay dead long. c'mon any mk fan who cares would know that. whats the big deal if they get killed and just come back. it's mortal kombat. i've been playing it since 1992 in my local arcade, and have purchased my own pcb's, home versions, and pc versions, and it's been that way as far as i can remember. it's how mortal kombat is. no one really dies, cause we always see them in sequels, or in prisons, or chained somewhere, they are there. and those who might not be in one game, return in another. it's just how mk is man. ask the midway guys, they'll tell ya that thats an inside joke how raiden and tsung get killed, then just pop back up in refference to the fact that no matter how many times you do a fatality, they are always back for more. it's a silly thing, it's just mk. don't read into it to far or you'll get lost as hell with where they are going with it.
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