Avatar
NMnafa
05/14/2005 01:23 AM (UTC)
0
I'm the one who has the handicap in american servers...indeed it's not you, it's not mikej119, and it's not thrower..it's ME who always is in a terrible disadvantage cause of my higher ping than yours. so no one can call my victories "lucky ones" there, it's just about skills.

pierre
Avatar
MK2KungBroken
Avatar
About Me
The Prophet - R.I.P. 1979-2006www.kombatnetwork.com
- Your Source for UMK3 Competition -
When something better than UMK3 comes out, I'll let you all know, because it still hasn't happened yet.
05/14/2005 05:24 AM (UTC)
0
You constantly miss the point that playing against you is laggy for both people no matter where they are, or what their ping. You don't know anything about the specifications of netplay, or Kaillera for that matter, which is it's own type of netplay. It's a lot more even than you think. But their is also a psychology concept behind it. You are use to playing with lag, you have adapted strategies that will fail you if you play someone offline because of always having a high ping to US servers. People who are not use to playing with lag are at a different type of disadvantage. I have a limit as to the level of lag I'm willing to play in, and against you is beyond my limit. I don't like playing when I can tap left or right 2 or 3 times before the character takes a step. That's not acceptable, but in order to play you at all, I let it slide.

You seem to feel MK has a lot to do with chance, when it's almost entirely the opposite. Chance plays a huge role when playing against you because there is a chance my timing will be off in a crucial situation where it normally wouldn't be. That chance falls in your favor, you count on this to happen, and I can tell by the amount of mistakes you make that are beyond comprehension. In MK there is almost a certain level of temptation you have to fight to NOT put yourself in stupid situations. With bad netplay conditions, a lot of these situations happen on accident. So I'm trying to tell you, don't lure yourself into a false sense of security and feel that you are something special.

Here is a solution, fly out to NJ, play at ECCX, and see what you can do.
Avatar
NMnafa
05/14/2005 06:44 AM (UTC)
0
1) "You constantly miss the point that playing against you is laggy for both people no matter where they are, or what their ping. "

if you really have in mind that both players suffer from the lag, then you have to admit I also suffer from the lag, but however you claim to know what are my skills...how would you know about that then?
I can't understand you on that point ...

2) "You don't know anything about the specifications of netplay, or Kaillera for that matter, which is it's own type of netplay. It's a lot more even than you think."

you have no idea about what I know concerning netplay.

3) "But their is also a psychology concept behind it. You are use to playing with lag, you have adapted strategies that will fail you if you play someone offline because of always having a high ping to US servers."

oh that's strange ; indeed here is what you had written in a previous post :
"I have to say that from playing people online, regardless of the lag I get, I has really improved my skills"
and now you tell me that playing with lag will give strategies that will fail offline? I can't understand you neither here....

4) "People who are not use to playing with lag are at a different type of disadvantage. I have a limit as to the level of lag I'm willing to play in, and against you is beyond my limit. I don't like playing when I can tap left or right 2 or 3 times before the character takes a step. That's not acceptable, but in order to play you at all, I let it slide. "

I have made the same effort on US servers than you did on EU servers.

5) "You seem to feel MK has a lot to do with chance, when it's almost entirely the opposite. Chance plays a huge role when playing against you because there is a chance my timing will be off in a crucial situation where it normally wouldn't be. That chance falls in your favor, you count on this to happen,... "

you can't deny that chance is involved in the mk games, and it's surely a good point...otherwise some matches would be less balanced, and less funny. but chance is not all, fortunately too, in fact I can't thrust chance to bring me victories, I rather rely on what i know about the basics of the game, especially about the notion of distance but as well as about the combostuff. anyway there were also situations for me where my timing was off in a crucial moment cause of the problems we have met both of us.
maybe bad conditions increase the chance, that's possible.

"...and I can tell by the amount of mistakes you make that are beyond comprehension."

I call these mistakes "net mistakes", not skill mistakes.
about that, I have seen some of your matches against mikej119, the "sub zero vs kitana" one , where you are even unable to do the basic combo of kitana during the match...you 're doing a lot of mistakes too you know, but I know that netplay brings all the time that kind of problems, and that's why I didn't tell you about that crap before.

6) "In MK there is almost a certain level of temptation you have to fight to NOT put yourself in stupid situations. With bad netplay conditions, a lot of these situations happen on accident. So I'm trying to tell you, don't lure yourself into a false sense of security and feel that you are something special. "

I know about netplay issues, I encounter all the same problems than you besides, but from all you have written until now, I'm totally sure that you have no idea about my real abilities, you badly under estimate me ... I'm something special in fact.

7) "Here is a solution, fly out to NJ, play at ECCX, and see what you can do."

this is really not the solution since I can't deal with arcade sticks, but one real solution would be playing with you in my living room or in yours...with my dear PSX2 pad...it would be very funny and exciting....take my word for it
(I just hope you don't get angry and don't hit your opponent when you lose at the game, like a friend of my brother did , because in that case I even don't wish to meet you in real...)

pierre


Avatar
MK2KungBroken
Avatar
About Me
The Prophet - R.I.P. 1979-2006www.kombatnetwork.com
- Your Source for UMK3 Competition -
When something better than UMK3 comes out, I'll let you all know, because it still hasn't happened yet.
05/14/2005 09:24 AM (UTC)
0
Not the kind of lag you experience playing over an ocean's distance, that cannot help your offline game at all, I mean normal lag, like suttering, button loss, the delay is different. All of these things amount to a general concept of lag. Just seeing tactics from other people, things I wasn't use to. Those things helped my game, Kaillera in general, meaning being able to play more players who are better at the game than most. I have learned nothing from playing you because you have nothing to offer since you are inferior in every conceivable way. Your plan of attack depends on netplay mistakes, and fortunately for you, it happens a lot. I was just talking to Moe tonight and apparently Thrower is on crappy DSL now with an 80 ping to US servers. He was also wondering where all the matches you lost were. Good job on barely beating a guy with a double handicap.

I use to worry about playing people on sticks because I was so unuse to them, but now it doesn't matter, I mess people up everywhere I go, everytime I play people online. You realize that if you can't play on sticks, no one will ever consider you a serious player at all? I could respect it if you could use a keyboard to play, but a PSX controller, that is sloppy as shit, that itself might even effect how you play. It's just not as accurate as a stick, and a stick is not as accurate as the keyboard. I can't wait for you to play Moe sometime, make sure you let us know when you do.

I don't understand how you can post such long replies, and ultimately say nothing really.
Avatar
bbWWdd
05/14/2005 10:30 AM (UTC)
0
im today , ill be tomorrow on gametronik and i beat anyone with only one hand on keyboard grin By the way.. why it showes me only 99 % even if i make more damage ? ive seen 102 damage on some your videos Matt.. or i dont know maybe its my imagination ? Also i think that 30 hits is maximum hit count displayed in UMK3
Avatar
psykosonik
05/14/2005 05:44 PM (UTC)
0
the max count is 99 hits and the game displays only 99% even it to be bigger. the first vid of DA shows more damage for some combos just to show people the excact damage i guess
Avatar
bbWWdd
05/14/2005 06:07 PM (UTC)
0
strange cause when i do more than 30 hits the game showed me 30 hits combo
Avatar
Tony
Avatar
About Me

SubZero
==================================
Systems:Wii
Currently Playing: Sonic and the Secret Rings
==================================

05/14/2005 06:38 PM (UTC)
0
MK2 Kung, when is ECCX ?
Avatar
NMnafa
05/14/2005 08:39 PM (UTC)
0
Your response about the lag is irrelevant, indeed if two people play together, but if one live in the west coast and the other on the east coast, they will have terrible lag too, almost as much as if one of them lived in Europe.

Through the years, I have developed a less aggressive technique, more defensive. My plan of attack depends on my opponent’s openings and mistakes, and I can say it’s not that hard to beat you , even in bad conditions...
mk2kung, unlike what you can think, you have many things to learn about me, especially about the notion of distance. In fact I even can win against many people just by using the basic moves and playing with the distance, indeed each move has a certain range(sweeps,high kicks etc) and when you know this perfectly like myself, many times special moves or combos are even not needed. Doing a combovideo has a very different approach than playing matches , cause when you're doing a combovid, you're seeking the spectacular as well as the effectiveness, but in the middle of a match, you just pay attention to the effectiveness...if you keep thinking that you have nothing to learn about players like me, you will face severe losses in near future...(and it's already has been the case)

You keep thinking your American people are the only ones to suffer from the lag, you don’t have any idea about my ping when I was playing thrower...my ping was 108 ms and his was about 75 ms...don’t forget that I will be always the one in the worse position in US servers. So, since thrower and me (and especially me) were affected by a severe handicap, my victories against him show a clear knowledge and obvious abilities. You’re nothing but ridiculous when you keep denying it .Moreover, he is definitely not the only player I can beat. I was talking on msn with a friend some time ago, an euroepan player too, he can beat thrower too, and we agreed to say that he has really a stupid way of playing. Mikej119 and you are more or less of the same level, unlike what you can think about it, I can say that cause I have played both of us.

If someone can’t play with sticks, you’re wrong if you think that it means that person suck. I know outstanding people who only play with a psx2 pad. If someone doesn’t consider you as a serious player only because you can’t deal with sticks, he is a moron. You think keyboard is more accurate than a psx pad? Once again, it’s just about opinions..and your opinion doesn’t interest me that much you know...all I want to see is good players, no matter which controllers they use.

What I say is relevant and about the point. You know, it’s in fact the listener who gives to a message all its meaning, if I‘m talking to an idiot, even if I say interesting things, he won’t get it and will think I’m rambling.


pierre

Avatar
Tony
Avatar
About Me

SubZero
==================================
Systems:Wii
Currently Playing: Sonic and the Secret Rings
==================================

05/15/2005 01:53 AM (UTC)
0
Situations like these remind me why I love/prefer Arcades over mame and netplay. The arcade is where you go to prove yourself and I believe that sticks are the way to play. You can't bring a psx pad to the arcade. Keep in mind that this is my opinion only. The arcade is the way the game was meant to be played. Its the original and sticks are how its played. Its how I play.

No excuses and no lag in the arcades :)
Avatar
dreemernj
05/15/2005 02:36 AM (UTC)
0
SubZero187 Wrote:
You can't bring a psx pad to the arcade.


Unless your playing Tekken 5 at least... lol
Pages: 2
Discord
Twitch
Twitter
YouTube
Facebook
Privacy Policy
© 1998-2025 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.