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posted02/08/2004 03:22 AM (UTC)by
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12/29/2003 11:26 PM (UTC)
Hey does anyone know what happened to Kintaro after MK II or MK trilogy cause it never really gives much of a story. I mean, it gives Goro a huge story and all this and Kintaro is just not very popular. I always loved Kintaro and I thought he was better then Goro.
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01/04/2004 05:43 AM (UTC)
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Can't remember, youre right not much has been said. Use your imagination.
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01/04/2004 10:41 PM (UTC)
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The game never said but from what I read in John Tobais' comic book it said Raiden/Rayden killed Kintaro. I don't know for sure though.
By the way KINTARO rules!!!
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01/05/2004 03:59 AM (UTC)
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I always thought Kintaro was much cooler then Goro or Motauro. He is one of the characters I wanted more story for, like Ermac and Smoke. Does he have any story for MKT? I never play as any of the bosses in it really so I never noticed. Not that it really matters, storyline was kinda pointless in MKT.
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01/06/2004 02:26 PM (UTC)
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That's right. It was Rayden who killed Kintaro.
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01/06/2004 05:39 PM (UTC)
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Yup, Raiden electrocuted Kintaro in MKII.
Kintaro's appearance in MKT is non-canon - he was never there story-wise, although he is a playable character in the PC/PSX/Saturn version of the game.
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01/07/2004 06:16 AM (UTC)
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Not N64?
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01/09/2004 01:46 AM (UTC)
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due to n64 being a cartridge system, alot of things that were in the pc/ps1/saturn versions werent put in. but some things were done to try to interest players considering the loss. someone post a thread about whats missing and not missing cause thats kinda too much to type. lol
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01/09/2004 02:17 AM (UTC)
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1. no one is really sure about what exacptly happened to Kintaro, it was told by Tobias that Rayden killed him, but maybe thats why he was forced to leave...there really has never been any other conformation about it other than that though, or at least none that i can really recall.

2. never trust MKT, most of the characters storys are complete hogwash, used to give them a purpose in the game, don't fall victum to the lies furious
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01/09/2004 03:19 AM (UTC)
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Yeah. I read that in one of John T.'s comics (which to some is considered offical plot) Raiden/Rayden killed Kintaro.
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01/09/2004 03:58 PM (UTC)
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never trust MKT, most of the characters storys are complete hogwash, used to give them a purpose in the game, don't fall victum to the lies


Uh, no. Almost everything in MKT is canon. Not only is it NOT hogwash, it's what actually happened during Shao Kahn's occupation of Earth. Key things like Cage's revival and the introduction of Shinnok are from MKT.

Besides Goro & Kintaro(who have no story at all), Human Smoke(who the game itself says is not real) and a few things that were dropped in MK4(like Classic Sub-Zero) everything in MKT is true.


The idea that MKT is a "dream match" or a "compliation of 1, 2 and 3" is one of the worst misconceptions people have about the story.

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01/09/2004 04:51 PM (UTC)
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I agree.
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never trust MKT, most of the characters storys are complete hogwash, used to give them a purpose in the game, don't fall victum to the lies


Uh, no. Almost everything in MKT is canon. Not only is it NOT hogwash, it's what actually happened during Shao Kahn's occupation of Earth. Key things like Cage's revival and the introduction of Shinnok are from MKT.

Besides Goro & Kintaro(who have no story at all), Human Smoke(who the game itself says is not real) and a few things that were dropped in MK4(like Classic Sub-Zero) everything in MKT is true.


The idea that MKT is a "dream match" or a "compliation of 1, 2 and 3" is one of the worst misconceptions people have about the story.


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01/09/2004 07:19 PM (UTC)
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I read in a FAQ that the comic that said that Raiden killed Kintaro wasn't from Midway.

The link to the FAQ is http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/file/mortal_kombat_history.txt and here's what it said about the comic...

Q: Doesn't Raiden kill Kintaro; it's not in your FAQ?

A: Technically I do not think it is known who kills Kintaro. What you are referring to is Motaro's bio in the Ultimate Guide to Mortal Kombat CD- Rom. However I do not consider this official since this program was made my threshold. If I'm not mistaken I believe Threshold had something to do with the Mortal Kombat movie. This would leave me to believe that they just made up the part about Kintaro being vaporized by Raiden.
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01/09/2004 07:59 PM (UTC)
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But there is an actual comic book sold seperatly from the games, made by Johhny T. which states it. It is up to you if that is offical or not.
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01/09/2004 08:11 PM (UTC)
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born-again-vampire Wrote:
But there is an actual comic book sold seperatly from the games, made by Johhny T. which states it. It is up to you if that is offical or not.


There was an actual comic of Raiden killing Kintaro written by John Tobias? I didn't know that... Alright then, my bad.
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01/09/2004 08:30 PM (UTC)
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Well that is what I understand, I have never seen it in person.
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01/09/2004 09:25 PM (UTC)
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sandspider Wrote:
1. no one is really sure about what exacptly happened to Kintaro, it was told by Tobias that Rayden killed him, but maybe thats why he was forced to leave...there really has never been any other conformation about it other than that though, or at least none that i can really recall.

Wow...I think I'll let someone else tell you what's so beautifully wrong with that bit of your post.

Jesus Christ, I think I just felt some sort of ''satan'' enter my eyeballs.

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01/10/2004 05:18 AM (UTC)
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1. Kintaro was vaporized by Raiden in MKII.

2. This was not in any comic book by John Tobias, although Tobias might have mentioned it to you.

3. This was in "The Ultimate Guide to MK: CD-ROM". Although this disc does have extensive information on the MK movies, this particular bit of information comes from Motaro's bio in the MK3 part of the GAMES section.

4. That FAQ was quite good, however, he calls the male Chameleon in MKT a raptor? I sent the author of that FAQ a list of corrections; although it is a very good FAQ, there were a couple of inaccuracies. I think Gavok's FAQ is the most comprehensive:

http://tabmok99.mk5.org/mortal_kombat_plot.txt
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01/10/2004 05:33 PM (UTC)
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if your refering to the part about maybe thats why he was supposed to leave, that was a joke...
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01/10/2004 06:57 PM (UTC)
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]ombat, that FAQ is great, heck better than what I showed you guys, but I found a mistake. I have MKM and the manual says nothing about Sub-Zero having a sister or being a child of an American woman. I have posted a thread about Sub-Zero having a sister a long while back, and have searched all over the 'net for more information, but that FAQ seems to be the only thing that claims that she exists.

"According to the MKM manual, the two Sub-Zeros are the sons of a Lin Kuei ninja and an American woman. They were removed from their mother and forced to fight for the Lin Kuei. Also, they had a sister but nothing has been said about her since."
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01/10/2004 07:33 PM (UTC)
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"Born in America, Sub-Zero was the oldest of three children, which included a brother and sister. Their mother wanted a normal life for her sons, who had already been chosen by the Lin Kuei to become warriors for the clan. She tried in vein to hide them from their father whose own life in America was only a cover for his true identity and purpose. Eventually they were found and their father returned with them to his homeland. Their mother and sister were never seen or heard from again."

I did check the MK Mythologies instruction booklet, and you're right, they are not mentioned here. They are only mentioned on the official MK Mythologies website, which even though it was taken down, is still backed up on web.archive.org.

Read the rest of the text this excerpt came from here.
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01/10/2004 07:50 PM (UTC)
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MKT isn't canon.
How CAN it be?!

*kintaro only appeared after goro's death, how can they be in the same game?

*sub-zero the 2nd, only appeared after his brother was killed by scorpion, how can they be in the same game?

etc. etc.
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01/10/2004 08:14 PM (UTC)
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Wow, thanks man. I'm so glad that that's finally been cleared up for me. Thank you ]ombat.
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01/10/2004 08:48 PM (UTC)
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MKT is canon; the appearences of Goro, Kintaro, Original Sub-Zero, Human Smoke and Chameleon are not.
Goro's and Kintaro's bios are from their respective MK games are still used, but don't fit in, Human Smoke's ending is acknowledged as "a memory", Chameleon doesn't have a storyline, and Original Sub-Zero, as you said, is dead, and on the N64 version, he has the current Sub-Zero's bio, with the machines persuing him; I don't know if he had a different one on the PS version.
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01/10/2004 09:04 PM (UTC)
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Many MK fans say it is not canon but that is really up to the indivudual. I think Goro could be offical canon as with Classic Sub Zero. As for the others: just cause they don't explain it does not mean it did not happen. Saying selective things are not canon is just an easy way out of an explanation.
And thats a good FAQ which I have read before but it goes back to the canon issue I talked about above.
Jerrod Wrote:
MKT is canon; the appearences of Goro, Kintaro, Original Sub-Zero, Human Smoke and Chameleon are not.
Goro's and Kintaro's bios are from their respective MK games are still used, but don't fit in, Human Smoke's ending is acknowledged as "a memory", Chameleon doesn't have a storyline, and Original Sub-Zero, as you said, is dead, and on the N64 version, he has the current Sub-Zero's bio, with the machines persuing him; I don't know if he had a different one on the PS version.

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