special forces b4 mk1 or...
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posted03/05/2005 02:33 PM (UTC)by
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shotgunpuma
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02/15/2005 05:12 PM (UTC)
im beginning tor realise that though jax wears prototypes for arms, it doesnt ever say that. so i thought that maybe it was mk2-mk3. how is this contradicted. if b4 mk1, id expect jax to be maybe a bit more shocked about the portal to a mystical realm. and also sonya and kano were meant to be lost in outworld. sonya could still be lost and kano could have easily gotten back to earth. is it a possibility because i find it hard to believe that it was b4 mk1. jax would have been more surprised when finding out about another world wouldnt you say?
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02/15/2005 07:09 PM (UTC)
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I kind of thought this first too but then I realized there was just more inconsistencies if it turned out to be anywhere after MK1. This couldnt happen during MK1 because Kano was busy in the MK tournament to be busy messing around with Jax.

This couldnt have happened in MK2 because Kano was actually held prisoner by Shao Kahn and Jax went to Outworld with Liu Kang to battle Kahn, I just dont see him finding time somewhere in between fighting the rest of the black dragon, plus did I mention Kano is held captive at this point?

If it had to have happened it would have to be in MK3 I think. But even then I dont think it did because Kano was working for Shao Kahn at this point and judging from his bio he was barely able to convince Kahn to spare his life and I dont think world domination is the first thing on a man's mind when he is more concerned about how to stay alive. Plus the conclusion of MK3 has it that Sonya defeated Kano and not Jax. Jax would never had the chance to defeat him.

Couldnt have happened anytime afterwards because as we all know Kano was then incarcerated by Shao Kahn then quickly rose to the ranks of General. Plus at this point Jax thinks Kano is dead, why would have gone after a dead man?

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im beginning tor realise that though jax wears prototypes for arms, it doesnt ever say that. so i thought that maybe it was mk2-mk3. how is this contradicted. if b4 mk1, id expect jax to be maybe a bit more shocked about the portal to a mystical realm. and also sonya and kano were meant to be lost in outworld. sonya could still be lost and kano could have easily gotten back to earth. is it a possibility because i find it hard to believe that it was b4 mk1. jax would have been more surprised when finding out about another world wouldnt you say?
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02/15/2005 08:09 PM (UTC)
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yeh but could it have been between mk2 and mk3.

mk2-kano tied up.
jax frees sonya and kano
kano escapes

he could have escaped through a portal and mk3 did not start directly after mk2 (most likely=normal timeline (1993=mk2/1995=mk3)). The point is jax could have gotten the arms and tried to get kano in between tournaments.
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02/15/2005 08:11 PM (UTC)
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also, after mksf, kano could have attempted again to get the eye or whatever and end up lost and therefore trying to get on kahns side which eventually happened in mk3.

sonya and jax made it to earth between torunaments so kano could have done so. i just think it sux that jax already knew about outworld and then acted like it was an everyday situation.
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02/16/2005 12:07 AM (UTC)
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MKSF should be considered non-canon. first of all, the beef was between Kano and Sonya, Jax should stay out of the rivalry. second, people have been complaining about Jarek's rip-offness since MK4, but do they try to help the situation? no! they make him throw more knives! Tremor was one big inside joke; planned for MKT so they stuck him in now, Boon couldn't stand the idea of no Scorpion so they gave him yellow clothes, and he used to be Lin Kuei- obviously a tibute to Sub-Zero. Jax and Kano aren't in the least bit surprised by the magic portals and outworld! .....
oh yeah, its before MK1. if ]{ombat says it, it must be true.
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02/16/2005 05:01 AM (UTC)
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There is a big problem if it happened between MK2 and MK3.

Lets say your theory is correct for a moment and it did happen in between MK2 and MK3. Kano gets in good with Kahn then allowed to get the Eye of Shitian by freeing his black dragon members. The game ends with Jax bringing back Kano to Earthrealm. If Kano is captured by Jax before MK3 then how is Kano still able to serve Shao Kahn. His bio states:

"Kano is thought to have been killed in the first tournament. Instead he's found alive in the Outworld where he once again escapes capture by Sonya. Before the actual Outworld invasion, Kano convinces Shao Kahn to spare his soul. Kahn needs someone to teach his warriors how to use Earth's weapons. Kano is the man to do it."

It would make his bio a lie because the bio states that he is found alive in Outworld and escaped capture from Sonya (this is referring to the conclusion of MK2 when Jax frees him and Sonya).

Trust me I have thought of the possibility of it happening after MK1 and gone over the places it could have happened but it just doesnt make sense anywhere.
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02/16/2005 05:04 AM (UTC)
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By the way, MKSF was a half assed game at best so dont be surprised if the characters dont have depth (Jax surprised by Outworld). But if you did want to make sense of it, we see in the transmission with Gemini that Jax is a person who cares more about stopping Kano than worrying about some new dimension.
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02/16/2005 02:10 PM (UTC)
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and if Jax went to Outworld already, then why did he wait till MK3 to worry about making an Outworld Investigation Agency? another reason it should be non-canon
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02/16/2005 02:55 PM (UTC)
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kano's bio states that just before the earthrealm invasion, he convinces khan to spare him. i think that directly after mk2, kano hung around outworld where he found out about the eye, broke out his mates and jax tried to get him. when he brought him to earth, kano could have escaped, gone back to outworld and evaded jax and sonya to look for it again. but, he failed to get it and cannot find the portal home and is therefore trapped in outworld where he begs for his life to kahn. isnt this possible? jax could have gotten his metal arms before kanos first attempt at the eye.
the whole thing could have spanned over the years kahn took to start mk3 after mk2.
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02/16/2005 03:42 PM (UTC)
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Yeah but now your just starting to add things in just to make your theory work. Plus logically it doesnt make sense. He gets captured by Jax then escapes again? I find that very hard to believe, Kano I assume would be in a very high security facility and I doubt that he could escape without the help of someone else. But like I said your just adding things in that just cant be backed up by anything so therefore it didnt happen.

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kano's bio states that just before the earthrealm invasion, he convinces khan to spare him. i think that directly after mk2, kano hung around outworld where he found out about the eye, broke out his mates and jax tried to get him. when he brought him to earth, kano could have escaped, gone back to outworld and evaded jax and sonya to look for it again. but, he failed to get it and cannot find the portal home and is therefore trapped in outworld where he begs for his life to kahn. isnt this possible? jax could have gotten his metal arms before kanos first attempt at the eye.
the whole thing could have spanned over the years kahn took to start mk3 after mk2.
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02/18/2005 10:13 PM (UTC)
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its true i'm adding things, but i just wish that there was at least a possibility that it occured after mk1. coz if it was b4, that wud suck, and i dont know if i can accept it as non-canon though it probably is. and even though im adding this, jarek could have broken him out or he could have escaped b4 jax got him to prison. after all, jax does suck so so much (except in mk2)
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Smoke01
02/19/2005 02:12 AM (UTC)
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Couldn't it have happend after MK3 and before MK4?
I know it couldn't have happend before MK2 and 2 because of the metal arm deal.

P.S.I haven't played much of Special Forces any way, so i really dont know what happens in the end.
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takermk
02/19/2005 03:56 AM (UTC)
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The game is set before MK1, he just has metal-arms because Midway gave them to him. The game is stupid anyway.
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03/05/2005 02:33 PM (UTC)
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why do u say its b4 mk1, when it makes more sense if it is after mk2
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