The martial arts/fighting styles of MKDA
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posted09/23/2003 03:22 PM (UTC)by
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08/04/2003 01:13 AM (UTC)
Is there anyone on this forum who has taken a fighting style used in mkda?

I have taken judo lessons. But the game seemed to have included a few punchs and kicks in Jax's judo style. Normally, you're not supposed to be taught anything of that sort in judo, since it's a martial art that uses throws and other kinds of self-defense. Guess they had to throw in some extra moves there. I have also taken some karate lessons, but I didn't take karate as much as I have taken judo.

Anyway, is there anyone else who has taken a martial art in the game?
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08/03/2003 01:03 PM (UTC)
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Well, this is a surprise to me. I play too little with Jax, because I don't like his styles.

But now did you mention it, so Jax punchs is really Judo? I thought that his moves were fake, because his stance is the same of Kano's Aikido and Hsu Hao's Wrestling.

Interesting.

And reply your post, I don't practice any martial artists.
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08/03/2003 01:22 PM (UTC)
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Gilac Wrote:
Well, this is a surprise to me. I play too little with Jax, because I don't like his styles.

But now did you mention it, so Jax punchs is really Judo? I thought that his moves were fake, because his stance is the same of Kano's Aikido and Hsu Hao's Wrestling.

Interesting.

And reply your post, I don't practice any martial artists.


Judo is nothing like Aikido and Wrestling, where are you going? Just because they all have throw moves doesn't mean they are the same. They are far from it.

It is true though that some of the fighting styles, like Jax's Judo (and Jax's Muay Thai incidentally has been changed too...in real life Muay Thai concentrates on punches with very little kicks) have been changed. But by and large on the whole they are pretty accurate representations.

To answer the thread's question though...no, I haven't learned any martial arts. I thought about taking up Hapkido in high school but never actually did it...

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08/03/2003 02:11 PM (UTC)
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I think the reason styles like Judo, Aikido and Wrestling were given punches and kicks is not because they are used in the real style, but because those styles don't lend themselves well to MK without strikes. This is especially true as far as combos; how do you do a combo with nothing but throws, joint locks, submissions, etc? A character with a fighting style without combos would be at a great disadvantage in MKDA. The MK team was given some poetic lisense with some styles to help them better fit the game.

As far as the question, I took Karate for about a year, but it was about six or seven years ago so I don't remember much from it; but the stance I learned didn't look like Johnny Cage's; it looked more like Ryu or Ken's (from Street Fighter).
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08/03/2003 04:21 PM (UTC)
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XcarnageX Wrote:
I think the reason styles like Judo, Aikido and Wrestling were given punches and kicks is not because they are used in the real style, but because those styles don't lend themselves well to MK without strikes. This is especially true as far as combos; how do you do a combo with nothing but throws, joint locks, submissions, etc? A character with a fighting style without combos would be at a great disadvantage in MKDA.


Drahmin doesn't seem to be disadvantaged much at all without combos...

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08/03/2003 05:25 PM (UTC)
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My friend who knows Tae Kwon Do taught me a little of that. But not much. I want to take Hapkido more than anything though.
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08/03/2003 06:33 PM (UTC)
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White_Pointer Wrote:

Drahmin doesn't seem to be disadvantaged much at all without combos...

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Excellent point, Drahmin is a notable exception. But that is because he's all about pop-up combos. He doesn't have the same dial-in combos as everyone else, but his pop-up potential is almost unlimited. However, Judo or Aikido don't have the benefit of pop-up attacks, and things like grappling, submissions and ground-fighting don't translate well for MK, so the styles were altered to better fit the game.
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08/04/2003 02:10 AM (UTC)
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Thanks for clearing this up on why the Judo, Wrestling and Aikido styles have added moves. I also think it would be difficult to pull off a combo only with throws, jointlocks, etc. As for Drahmin, I can understand why some people wouldn't like him at first as far as moves go, mainly because of his lack of combos. IMO, he does just fine without them. When used well, Drahmin can do pop-up combos like some of you said (I do it all the time with his throw).

But anyway, back to the topic. That's cool for you Sub-Saibot that you had a friend teach you some Tae Kwon Do.

XcarnageX Wrote:
but the stance I learned didn't look like Johnny Cage's; it looked more like Ryu or Ken's (from Street Fighter).


I didn't know that a basic Karate stance looked like one from Street Fighter. Interesting.

So, anyone else want to add to the list?
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08/24/2003 02:01 PM (UTC)
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I have taken Netherealm and Oni, lol. just jokin.grin

Actually I have taken Tae Kwon Do. I knew some1 that took Karate, and know some moves. Thats what i have taken.tongue
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08/24/2003 02:01 PM (UTC)
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Any1 else take those fighting styles?
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08/24/2003 05:06 PM (UTC)
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Kitana_Klone Wrote:
I have taken Netherealm and Oni, lol.


I knew someone was going to say that. LOL.

I guess that as of now, the most common martial arts talked about in my thread are Karate and Tae Kwon Do.
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08/24/2003 05:07 PM (UTC)
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To add something else, could you also describe how the martial arts you took compare with how they are in the game?
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nindz
08/31/2003 11:33 AM (UTC)
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well ive done shotokan and wing chun in the past, am doing hapkido now.been to a TKD class too.

Let me start by shotokan. The strikes are spot on. As it's real life counterpart, shotokan is linear.
Wing chun punches are spot on too. the 1,1,1 and 1,1, back+1 are combos im familiar with, they are known as chain punches.
I've been doing hapkido for about a month....learnt the front kick and back kick scorpion uses while pressing attack 4 and back+4, the style uses joint locks and relaxed motion....we learn breakfalls to fall safely...also implemented in the training is kali stick practice and knife too.
TaeKwonDo is nothing but kicks...im sorry if others think otherwise, but thats all i was taught at the lesson i was at, but having said, its prolly the best method of improving your quality of kicks. i may just do it to supplement hapkido, but i'll continue practising hapkido.
Recently a guy higher up the ranks was using me as a dummy to practice his joint locks....he got me into some locks that resemble the ones used by wwe superstars. one in particular, the walls of jericho!

Aikido is a neutralising style of being one with the universe. Aikido is none aggressive, and why thwey gave it too Kano is beyond me.
Judo is more a sport, and has taken out the lethal moves of jujitsu that induce pain and at worst even death.
Wrestling has been known to mankind as the earliest form of combat in the west...one form wrestling largely used by the greeks was called pankration....a character in VF uses it...the one that needs money for his boat or something
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nindz
09/16/2003 03:34 PM (UTC)
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if yanden checked this post out....he coudl give us some input as to how realistic the animal arts of snake, mantis, crane, dragon and tiger are.....i believe thats the 5 that he does
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09/16/2003 05:14 PM (UTC)
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nindz Wrote:
if yanden checked this post out....he coudl give us some input as to how realistic the animal arts of snake, mantis, crane, dragon and tiger are.....i believe thats the 5 that he does


You know, I asked him about that. He told me that the MKDA representations of those styles weren't perfect, but they were still very well done enough.
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09/23/2003 03:22 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
nindz Wrote:
if yanden checked this post out....he coudl give us some input as to how realistic the animal arts of snake, mantis, crane, dragon and tiger are.....i believe thats the 5 that he does

You know, I asked him about that. He told me that the MKDA representations of those styles weren't perfect, but they were still very well done enough.


Yea i guess they implemented the basic moves into the game but still good enough...cos that still is tons of research....my hats off to the midway boyz!

I may check out a style of kung fu known as Lau gar....its on wednesdays...i'll go check it out then give u guys input into it
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