I think the big problem was that people were still interested in MK for the blood and gore and that had already begun to get very stupid once they added friendships and babalities to MK2. Instead, MK3 and UMK3 were very fast very good fighting games that were played often by large groups of hardcore fans, but shunned by the majority of people that just wanted the blood and guts.

Improvements would probably come from abandoning the blood and gore looky-loo approach which primarily attracts casual players. Instead, there probably could have focused more on making it a fighter that hug ecrowds would flock to at the tournies as opposed to the pockets of hardcore fans at arcades around America.

Just forget Friendship, Animalities, Babalities and Mercy.

To me, MK3 had to be only fatalities, and the best of them.

I like the combo system, I like the stages, I like the fighters.

Just the fatalities had to be really better

ninjas :-p

Yeah but they added that in UMK3 and it did even worse =(

Sub_ZER0 Wrote: ninjas :-p

balkcsiaboot Wrote: Yeah but they added that in UMK3 and it did even worse =( Sub_ZER0 Wrote: ninjas :-p

I'm not sure what you mean by it doing even worse. If you mean for the arcade that doesn't sound right because just about every MK3 machine was upgraded to UMK3, so it couldn't have done worse. If you are talking about the home systems then at the time the majority of UMK3's sold for the home were for Sega and SNES. They were terrible and extremely overpriced so yes they did worse then MK3. For other systems UMK3 either was replaced by MKT or was never released because of MKT.

On the other hand, you could mean it did even worse as far as gamer satisfaction, but I think the game was only disliked by people that glanced at it, never got any good against real competition, and were let down that it didn't have the fill of realistic violence that they were accustomed to.

I don't know I thought it was the best MK at the time. Every MK that came out (official arcade releases) was my current favorite. Like the guy above me said, only people that shunned it were people who probably had no comp or just liked MK for blood. But there were a lot of good players up north here in the US that made it the most successful MK game (up here anyway) by far. It was insane for awhile of how many people actually took it as a serious fighter and is without a doubt my favorite era of MK. I really wish they got MK4 up here because by the time MK4 came out people were still playing UMK3 religously and it would of been a huge success. Now that I think about it more, why the hell didn't my arcade get it! Damnit that's the only era of MK I can honestly say I never devoted my life to simply because my arcade sucks. Now I'm depressed .

I guess you guys are right about the whole thing. Because all the fans I knew were going crazy about MK3, but it didn't appeal to the "general public."

But I personally hated all the extra finishing moves and the horrible AI at times.

Amen

balkcsiaboot Wrote: But I personally hated all the extra finishing moves and the horrible AI at times.

balkcsiaboot Wrote: But I personally hated all the extra finishing moves and the horrible AI at times.

They were harder to love then a porcupine with the sniffles

mortal kombat 3 was, by far, the worst mortal kombat ever. but, that's common knowledge. it was many reasons if you ask me. sure, there were no ninjas, stupid finishers, and really crappy new characters, but those were the good qualities. the thing that really got me were the shit graphics. every fatality had the exact same blood splatter and they used the woosey poses to show decapitated body parts. it sucked!!! plus motaro made the sub boss level more akward because he had newer moves than others. plus, noob saibot looked like a retard and was crappy as a kano sprite. finally, even the old characters redone looked stupid.

Just add all of the stuff that was in UMK3.

Believe it or not I liked MK3, though in comparison to MK and MK2 it's not that good but, the only thing I'd really think would make better is Johnny Cage I know that sounds stupid but I think he's a great fighter, and would've been a great improvement for it.

I agree 100% with what you just said. I also missed Scorpion, Reptile and he old Sub-Zero costume... but I guess they had to do that since he left the Klan.

JohnnyCage5 Wrote: Believe it or not I liked MK3, though in comparison to MK and MK2 it's not that good but, the only thing I'd really think would make better is Johnny Cage I know that sounds stupid but I think he's a great fighter, and would've been a great improvement for it.

MK3 was one of my favourite MK games. The new combo system and run meter were great additions and I mastered that game (just try taking me on :) ). Sure, the friendships and babalities were kinda stupid (but then again they were just carried over from MK2) but the concept of animalities was pretty cool, even if the execution was a little off. Sub-Zero looked badarse without his mask, the new stage fatalities were great (I especially liked the Subway and Pit 3 fatalities) and I liked most of the new characters, Kabal, Sheeva, Cyrax, Sektor and Nightwolf in particular. The only thing I REALLY disliked about MK3 was that they left Scorpion out :P

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i liked mk3 it had what i now think is the best damed charater kabal it introduced the robots ect. it also had the pitfalls like night-wolf(good idea bad exucatuion sp?) but it wass a good thime none the les

I love Mk3, and actually, it gave us A LOT of things that were an excellent addition! Such as the speed, the combo system, the run button. Also the arenas and music were VERY well done. One of the best. The graphics were excellent. I have to say that the only things I disliked about it were:

-No Cage
-No Ninjas
-No oriental Chinese feeling such as Mk1 and Mk2.
-Exaggerated body parts in the end of a ality. Such as million of hands and heads.

Mk3 was a very good Mk game. I really liked all the stuff it was given. It improved a lot, but I guess what people mostly hated where the lost Ninjas and many heads in the end of an ality.

Mk 3 was horrible no ninjas liu kang had the worst fatalities ever brutalities impossible to do and the games gameplay suxs

fatality king i would dissagre with you

FatalityKing007 Wrote: Mk 3 was horrible no ninjas liu kang had the worst fatalities ever brutalities impossible to do and the games gameplay suxs

Actually there weren't any brutalities in it, so that would be why they were so hard to do :D

They shouldve put Scorpion in there, it just wasnt the same without him.

I kind of commend that they were trying to do what most other fighting games don't, and thats change the roster. Most franchises constantly bring back the same people. I think it causes such a huge strain on the storyline that sometimes its not worth it.

Unfortunately, the majority of people that play Mortal Kombat games do it for their favorite fatalities and characters, so all of the improvements and innovations in gameplay in the world would never make up for missing characters and deemphasized violence.

how can u say that UMK/MK3 was the start ok MK's downfall. UMK was the most balenced and BEST MK game ever made. it was actively played till 1999(at lest in chicago) so thats a 4 year life span. longer then any other MK was played.

_NE0_ Wrote: how can u say that UMK/MK3 was the start ok MK's downfall. UMK was the most balenced and BEST MK game ever made. it was actively played till 1999(at lest in chicago) so thats a 4 year life span. longer then any other MK was played.

I agree. UMK3 was the best arcade game they made really. And my friends and I have been fanatics about it since it came out. There are still pockets of huge UMK3 fans all over the place. In New Jersey we are trying to put together a fight night for UMK3 at an arcade like 8 on the Break. Unfortunately, UMK3 never had the die hard fans in any number around here, it was my friends and I at the arcade and everyone else that played us really just played to see blood, guts, and fatalities, thoroughly ignoring the gameplay.

Nothing. Except to add a few more characters like Ermac, Rain and saibot.